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salimina
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 Posted - 23 May 2007 : 02:52:54
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How can the government better equipped our army forces?I think we will be better off with an army that is well trained. An army that can construct roads,an army with good engineers and all sorts of trade personnel.In doing that,the government can use them to undertake some of the major contracts that would otherwise be contracted to blue chip companies.And it will not only be a savings to the treasury or hard earn loans but will be a catalyst to wastefulness.The only essence of our army seems to be peace keeping.Interms of defending our soverignity,there is no country within the zone that we can handle.I know well trained army will always boasts of their superiority even if we are being attacked by the Americans.But in reality what is their purpose?Is it a waste of tax payers hard earn money?Or are they fed just for incremental purpose( to boast the size of our population)?What do you think?
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Karl
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Posted - 23 May 2007 : 07:50:24
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| Good point Salimina, The Gambian Army needs to be recycled for more innovative and constructive purpose. No doubt there are lot of young and energetic youths within the Army who could be re-crafted and become instrumental in other areas. |
"People who shut their eyes to reality simply invite their own destruction, and anyone who insists on remaining in a state of innocence long after that innocence is dead turns himself into a monster" J Baldwin |
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Alhassan
Sweden
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Posted - 23 May 2007 : 10:42:02
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Originally posted by salimina
How can the government better equipped our army forces?I think we will be better off with an army that is well trained. An army that can construct roads,an army with good engineers and all sorts of trade personnel.In doing that,the government can use them to undertake some of the major contracts that would otherwise be contracted to blue chip companies.And it will not only be a savings to the treasury or hard earn loans but will be a catalyst to wastefulness.The only essence of our army seems to be peace keeping.Interms of defending our soverignity,there is no country within the zone that we can handle.I know well trained army will always boasts of their superiority even if we are being attacked by the Americans.But in reality what is their purpose?Is it a waste of tax payers hard earn money?Or are they fed just for incremental purpose( to boast the size of our population)?What do you think?
salimina,
In my opinion, Gambia does not need an army. The country is poor and depends a lot on loans and grants. Gambia does not have the resource to mentain an army nor do we have trets from our neighbour Senegal.
Why then all the weapons? There should not have been an army at all from the start.
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Jack
Belgium
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Posted - 23 May 2007 : 11:48:44
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An army is there to defend the souverignity. As I see no problems on that in western africa, I think its useless, waste of money and dangerous. All those soldiers with their guns frighten me everytime when I go to the Gambia (especially those at Denton Bridge at night who are always annoying and asking for money)
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kayjatta
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Posted - 23 May 2007 : 12:00:08
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In today's Gambia the army is essential to the survival of the APRC government.It may well be true that the military, especially the elite presidential(state) guards, is the only establishment that keeps Jammeh in power. The recent spectacular promotion of Gen. Tamba, Jammeh's chief of defence staff and another are testimony to Jammeh's continued reliance on a small clique of loyal soldiers.
One would have expected that having "been elected" three times Jammeh would draw much of his power from(and therefore live closer to) the people and de-militarize the government rather than further conceal himself behind his small but fortified military brass. |
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Alhassan
Sweden
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Posted - 23 May 2007 : 13:14:20
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Originally posted by kayjatta
In today's Gambia the army is essential to the survival of the APRC government.It may well be true that the military, especially the elite presidential(state) guards, is the only establishment that keeps Jammeh in power. The recent spectacular promotion of Gen. Tamba, Jammeh's chief of defence staff and another are testimony to Jammeh's continued reliance on a small clique of loyal soldiers.
One would have expected that having "been elected" three times Jammeh would draw much of his power from(and therefore live closer to) the people and de-militarize the government rather than further conceal himself behind his small but fortified military brass.
kayjatta,
I am suprised that you people still are at the same place. Jammeh was a soldier before he bcame president. Do you have a knowledge of what he was working with before he joined the Gambian army?
Then you must know why he has all that protection arround him. In my opinion, I already know what he was and did, so the problem of the army will not be solved by him. As long as he is there they will be there too. They are all of the same trade. Don't you agree.Moreover which state has treatned Gambia's existance? |
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casa101
Canada
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Posted - 23 May 2007 : 13:17:16
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A very good point "does Gambia need an Army" acutely this a very important argument and one that needs a lot of thought.
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jambo
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Posted - 23 May 2007 : 14:59:37
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gambia nees an army what every shape, form, or name you give it. for gambia no, but look at some of its neighbours, no army, no defence  |
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gambiabev
United Kingdom
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Posted - 23 May 2007 : 19:37:02
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Every country needs an army incase it is attacked, so it can defend it's self.
If Gambia has no army it might end up a state of Senegal?!
But it shouldn't have an army to control it's own people. That is the job of the police.
So Gambia is a small country and it needs a small army.The army is not the tool of the President. If it is, perhaps it would be best not to have an army?! |
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kobo
United Kingdom
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Posted - 23 May 2007 : 19:49:27
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Originally posted by Karl
Good point Salimina, The Gambian Army needs to be recycled for more innovative and constructive purpose. No doubt there are lot of young and energetic youths within the Army who could be re-crafted and become instrumental in other areas.
Further endorsements to both Salimina and Karl; as I have the same ideas for a very long time inspired by The Pioneer Unit for tradesmanship, engineering and/ or the technical unit of the Arm Forces that existed when the British set-up the Gambia Army.
Our warfare is about development oriented projects, national development especially MULTI-SKILLS, tapping the NATIONAL HEALTH SERVICES AND TREATMENT AT THE HOSPITLES, CONSTRUCTION SECTOR, ROAD BUILDING AND MAINTENANCE, AGRICULTURE, HORTICULTURE AND FISHING.
There can be massive savings in government treasury (revenue & expenditure), in feeding the army and making them self-sufficient and provide a wide range of professional and community services. The army has the human resources and needs to be boosted with more resources, better equiped for MORE SERVICES to the NATION as highlighted above. Its a win, win, situation as a better equiped ARMY can handle a lot of government projects, supply service and deliver the goods.
For The Gambia Our Homeland! |
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Alhassan
Sweden
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Posted - 23 May 2007 : 21:06:56
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Originally posted by kobo
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Originally posted by Karl
Good point Salimina, The Gambian Army needs to be recycled for more innovative and constructive purpose. No doubt there are lot of young and energetic youths within the Army who could be re-crafted and become instrumental in other areas.
Further endorsements to both Salimina and Karl; as I have the same ideas for a very long time inspired by The Pioneer Unit for tradesmanship, engineering and/ or the technical unit of the Arm Forces that existed when the British set-up the Gambia Army.
Our warfare is about development oriented projects, national development especially MULTI-SKILLS, tapping the NATIONAL HEALTH SERVICES AND TREATMENT AT THE HOSPITLES, CONSTRUCTION SECTOR, ROAD BUILDING AND MAINTENANCE, AGRICULTURE, HORTICULTURE AND FISHING.
There can be massive savings in government treasury (revenue & expenditure), in feeding the army and making them self-sufficient and provide a wide range of professional and community services. The army has the human resources and needs to be boosted with more resources, better equiped for MORE SERVICES to the NATION as highlighted above. Its a win, win, situation as a better equiped ARMY can handle a lot of government projects, supply service and deliver the goods.
For The Gambia Our Homeland!
Kobo,
If it comes to what your posting explains, then the army is productive. That is not the case of the one we have. They cost too much and do very little.
For those who are afraid of the Senegalese, i say keep kool, The Senegalese army is more diciplined than the Gambian. They have no intrest in taking over Gambia with the use of their army, if so it would have been done a long time ago when we had only the Field Force.
For us SenegaloGambians the family relations and peaceful coexistance is more important than power struggle between us.
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kobo
United Kingdom
7765 Posts |
Posted - 23 May 2007 : 22:00:18
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Originally posted by Alhassan
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Kobo,
If it comes to what your posting explains, then the army is productive. That is not the case of the one we have. They cost too much and do very little.
For those who are afraid of the Senegalese, i say keep kool, The Senegalese army is more diciplined than the Gambian. They have no intrest in taking over Gambia with the use of their army, if so it would have been done a long time ago when we had only the Field Force.
For us SenegaloGambians the family relations and peaceful coexistance is more important than power struggle between us.
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Good point about POWER STRUGGLES for e.g PRO-JAMMEH'S & APRC and ABTI-JAMMEH & APRC; BETWEEN OPPOSITION PARTIES and THOSE PRIVELEDGED UNDER THE PRESENT ORDER / SYSTEM and UNDER-PRIVELEDGED. Thats African politics or TYPICAL GAMBIAN POLITICS
However ERAS COME AND GO and we need to REVOLUTIONALISED or MODERNISED THE SYSTEMS for further developments, peace and prosperity.
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Sister Omega
United Kingdom
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Posted - 23 May 2007 : 22:01:31
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An educated and skilled army is beneficial both for defending a country and developing a nation. Through national services the youth should get the opportunity to learn necessary skills such as civil engineering, paramedics, reconaisance, environmental remote sensing, conservation, civil liberties,farming,constitution etc. Learning trades that can be transferred into civilian life with the discipline to carry through with a can do attitude to completion once they have finished the course.
This type of National Service will enable those failed by the educational system to continue learn and be of more benefit to the country and in return they will defend it when called to do so.
Peace
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Karamba
United Kingdom
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Posted - 23 May 2007 : 23:41:39
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| There is a conflict of roles in the case of Gambia's army. It is true that a multi discplinary skillful army can be an asset to the nation. What now prevails in Gambia is that those in the army know Jammeh is one of their lot. Some of them have very low productive skills to offer in contrast to what some of you measure up. Notwithstanding their low skills, they have been promoted to higher ranks with good pay and incentive packages. Therefore they pay allegiance to the person who provides them unlimited economic favour at very high cost to the national economy. They stay about to show that the army is IN CONTROL. The good ideas some of advanced here may not be shared by the very army you refer to. Alhassan made it factual and clear. The social bond between Gambia and Senegal is enough assurance that Senegal is not likely to invade Gambia. True to the word, the current Gambian army is not required, not in their weight of liability exerted on Gambian tax payers. |
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Santanfara
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Posted - 23 May 2007 : 23:54:59
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Originally posted by Karamba
There is a conflict of roles in the case of Gambia's army. It is true that a multi discplinary skillful army can be an asset to the nation. What now prevails in Gambia is that those in the army know Jammeh is one of their lot. Some of them have very low productive skills to offer in contrast to what some of you measure up. Notwithstanding their low skills, they have been promoted to higher ranks with good pay and incentive packages. Therefore they pay allegiance to the person who provides them unlimited economic favour at very high cost to the national economy. They stay about to show that the army is IN CONTROL. The good ideas some of advanced here may not be shared by the very army you refer to. Alhassan made it factual and clear. The social bond between Gambia and Senegal is enough assurance that Senegal is not likely to invade Gambia. True to the word, the current Gambian army is not required, not in their weight of liability exerted on Gambian tax payers.
karamba , yeh you right there . the third in command in our army with master degree in international peace keeping and conflict resolution have resign from his job without any objection from general tamba .this shows that our army is just for keeping jilanka period. this man who serve the army for so many years is left to leave just like that .if our army wants quality and nation building they should hang unto the best personel . |
Surah- Ar-Rum 30-22
"And among His signs is the creation of heavens and the earth, and the difference of your languages and colours. verily, in that are indeed signs for men of sound knowledge." Qu'ran
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Santanfara
3460 Posts |
Posted - 23 May 2007 : 23:56:45
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| the lates news on the resigned third in command of our army is now snap up by u.n to supervise a mission in sudan .his name is cherno jallow . |
Surah- Ar-Rum 30-22
"And among His signs is the creation of heavens and the earth, and the difference of your languages and colours. verily, in that are indeed signs for men of sound knowledge." Qu'ran
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