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Alhassan
Sweden
813 Posts |
 Posted - 26 Feb 2007 : 16:07:43
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Originally posted by mansasulu
I have great respect for all the islamic scholars you mentioned. However, I am not following their Islam. May I also reind you that those scholars did not advocate for secularism or democracy. Rather I am following the Islam brought to us by Our Nabi Muhammad (SAW)and the four Khulafa ul Rasudeen, Abu Bakr, Omar, Uthman and Ali (RA). You will agree with me that they all implemented Shariah.
If Allah asks you tommorrow why you didn't strive to implement his law on the land, merely stating that the islamic scholars you mentioned did not preach it will not be enough. The prophet left us with two things when he left, the Quran and his Sunna and today we continue to read them without implementing their rulings. And we all wonder why we have a tyrant ruling us. Until we return to the path of Allah we will continue to live under tyranny, oppression and poverty.
Can you list down the countries that have Sharia today
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mansasulu
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Posted - 26 Feb 2007 : 16:34:34
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| listing down countries that have shariah is not relevant to the question here. The question here is has western styled secular democratic principles solved the problems of the Gambia? And the answer is a resounding no. I am not intersted in what other countries are doing. What i am interested in is what Allah has commanded me to do and that is establish his law on his land. Now what other countries are is irrelevant here. |
"...Verily, in the remembrance of Allâh do hearts find rest..." Sura Al-Rad (Chapter 13, Verse 28)
...Gambian by birth, Muslim by the grace of Allah... |
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mansasulu
997 Posts |
Posted - 26 Feb 2007 : 16:34:34
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| listing down countries that have shariah is not relevant to the question here. The question here is has western styled secular democratic principles solved the problems of the Gambia? And the answer is a resounding no. I am not intersted in what other countries are doing. What i am interested in is what Allah has commanded me to do and that is establish his law on his land. Now what other countries are is irrelevant here. |
"...Verily, in the remembrance of Allâh do hearts find rest..." Sura Al-Rad (Chapter 13, Verse 28)
...Gambian by birth, Muslim by the grace of Allah... |
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toubab
Gambia
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Posted - 28 Feb 2007 : 21:28:28
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| Would that mean then that all non-muslims in The Gambia would become Dhimmis? I am under the impression that Saudi Arabia practises Sharia, three people have just been beheaded there according to Reuters. |
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toubab
Gambia
92 Posts |
Posted - 28 Feb 2007 : 21:28:28
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| Would that mean then that all non-muslims in The Gambia would become Dhimmis? I am under the impression that Saudi Arabia practises Sharia, three people have just been beheaded there according to Reuters. |
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Alhassan
Sweden
813 Posts |
Posted - 01 Mar 2007 : 09:25:50
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Originally posted by mansasulu
listing down countries that have shariah is not relevant to the question here. The question here is has western styled secular democratic principles solved the problems of the Gambia? And the answer is a resounding no. I am not intersted in what other countries are doing. What i am interested in is what Allah has commanded me to do and that is establish his law on his land. Now what other countries are is irrelevant here.
mansasulu,
Then in this case, I recomend you to go and start your propaganda. As you have stated, you are only interested in is what Allah has commanded me to do and that is establish his law on his land. What will happen now that you dont apply this law yourself? You are going against the laws of Allah. I think if the Sharia was for this generation, then all the muslim states would adopt it. Gambia is not the only country in the world that has muslim citizens. Gambia cannot be excepted.
In my opinion, Sharia law is not suitable for Gambia and will not be applied there.Even president Jammeh does not think about it, even though he is very paious. May be after my death then this law will be applied.
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Alhassan
Sweden
813 Posts |
Posted - 01 Mar 2007 : 09:25:50
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quote:
Originally posted by mansasulu
listing down countries that have shariah is not relevant to the question here. The question here is has western styled secular democratic principles solved the problems of the Gambia? And the answer is a resounding no. I am not intersted in what other countries are doing. What i am interested in is what Allah has commanded me to do and that is establish his law on his land. Now what other countries are is irrelevant here.
mansasulu,
Then in this case, I recomend you to go and start your propaganda. As you have stated, you are only interested in is what Allah has commanded me to do and that is establish his law on his land. What will happen now that you dont apply this law yourself? You are going against the laws of Allah. I think if the Sharia was for this generation, then all the muslim states would adopt it. Gambia is not the only country in the world that has muslim citizens. Gambia cannot be excepted.
In my opinion, Sharia law is not suitable for Gambia and will not be applied there.Even president Jammeh does not think about it, even though he is very paious. May be after my death then this law will be applied.
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jambo
3300 Posts |
Posted - 01 Mar 2007 : 14:17:37
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Are these not holidays in the Gambia
Islamic Year 1428 H. (2007-2008) From Huda, Your Guide to Islam.
FREE Newsletter. Sign Up Now! Dates and Upcoming Holidays
Please Note:
Although calendars are printed for planning purposes, they are based on estimates of the visibility of the lunar crescent, and the Islamic month may actually start 1-2 days earlier or later than predicted. Important Dates:
Hijrah New Year (20 January 2007)
Ramadan begins (13 September 2007)
Eid Al-Fitr (13 October 2007)
Hajj begins (18 December 2007)
Eid Al-Adha (20 December 2007)
Islamic New Year 1429 H. (10 January 2008)
A table listing the beginning and ending dates of all Islamic months according to the 2007-2008 Gregorian calendar;
Islamic Year 1428 H.
Islamic Month Gregorian Dates
Muharram January 20 - February 18, 2007
Safar February 19 - March 19, 2007
Rabia Awal March 20 - April 17, 2007
Rabia Thani April 18 - May 17, 2007
Jumaada Awal May 18 - June 15, 2007
Jumaada Thani June 16 - July 14, 2007
Rajab July 15 - August 13, 2007
Sha'ban August 14 - September 12, 2007
Ramadan September 13 - October 12, 2007
Shawwal October 13 - November 10, 2007 Dhul-Qi'dah November 11 - December 10, 2007
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jambo
3300 Posts |
Posted - 01 Mar 2007 : 14:17:37
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Are these not holidays in the Gambia
Islamic Year 1428 H. (2007-2008) From Huda, Your Guide to Islam.
FREE Newsletter. Sign Up Now! Dates and Upcoming Holidays
Please Note:
Although calendars are printed for planning purposes, they are based on estimates of the visibility of the lunar crescent, and the Islamic month may actually start 1-2 days earlier or later than predicted. Important Dates:
Hijrah New Year (20 January 2007)
Ramadan begins (13 September 2007)
Eid Al-Fitr (13 October 2007)
Hajj begins (18 December 2007)
Eid Al-Adha (20 December 2007)
Islamic New Year 1429 H. (10 January 2008)
A table listing the beginning and ending dates of all Islamic months according to the 2007-2008 Gregorian calendar;
Islamic Year 1428 H.
Islamic Month Gregorian Dates
Muharram January 20 - February 18, 2007
Safar February 19 - March 19, 2007
Rabia Awal March 20 - April 17, 2007
Rabia Thani April 18 - May 17, 2007
Jumaada Awal May 18 - June 15, 2007
Jumaada Thani June 16 - July 14, 2007
Rajab July 15 - August 13, 2007
Sha'ban August 14 - September 12, 2007
Ramadan September 13 - October 12, 2007
Shawwal October 13 - November 10, 2007 Dhul-Qi'dah November 11 - December 10, 2007
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Momodou
Denmark
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Posted - 01 Mar 2007 : 14:40:13
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quote:
Originally posted by jambo
Are these not holidays in the Gambia
Islamic Year 1428 H. (2007-2008) From Huda, Your Guide to Islam.
FREE Newsletter. Sign Up Now! Dates and Upcoming Holidays
Please Note:
Although calendars are printed for planning purposes, they are based on estimates of the visibility of the lunar crescent, and the Islamic month may actually start 1-2 days earlier or later than predicted. ....
Jambo, these are just important dates and not public holidays. Public holidays are usually the two Eids (Eid Al-Fitr and Eid Al-Adha) and i think the new year too. Can you please give the URL of the site you got these information from? |
A clear conscience fears no accusation - proverb from Sierra Leone |
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Momodou
Denmark
11735 Posts |
Posted - 01 Mar 2007 : 14:40:13
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quote:
Originally posted by jambo
Are these not holidays in the Gambia
Islamic Year 1428 H. (2007-2008) From Huda, Your Guide to Islam.
FREE Newsletter. Sign Up Now! Dates and Upcoming Holidays
Please Note:
Although calendars are printed for planning purposes, they are based on estimates of the visibility of the lunar crescent, and the Islamic month may actually start 1-2 days earlier or later than predicted. ....
Jambo, these are just important dates and not public holidays. Public holidays are usually the two Eids (Eid Al-Fitr and Eid Al-Adha) and i think the new year too. Can you please give the URL of the site you got these information from? |
A clear conscience fears no accusation - proverb from Sierra Leone |
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mansasulu
997 Posts |
Posted - 01 Mar 2007 : 14:46:20
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Toubab, you conveniently forgot to tell us what reuters said the crimes committed by those beheaded were. In any case, more people are executed in the United States last year than were beheaded in Saudi Arabia, check the facts.
Jambo, only two of those dates you mentioned are "holidays" in gambia: Eid ul Fitr and Eid ul Adha, ask people who know better.
Alhassan implementing Shariah is not a matter of opinion. It is a commandment from Allah that we should be obeying. The fact of the matter is that Allah has commanded all of us, I am trying to do my part and I suggest you try as well. |
"...Verily, in the remembrance of Allâh do hearts find rest..." Sura Al-Rad (Chapter 13, Verse 28)
...Gambian by birth, Muslim by the grace of Allah... |
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mansasulu
997 Posts |
Posted - 01 Mar 2007 : 14:46:20
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Toubab, you conveniently forgot to tell us what reuters said the crimes committed by those beheaded were. In any case, more people are executed in the United States last year than were beheaded in Saudi Arabia, check the facts.
Jambo, only two of those dates you mentioned are "holidays" in gambia: Eid ul Fitr and Eid ul Adha, ask people who know better.
Alhassan implementing Shariah is not a matter of opinion. It is a commandment from Allah that we should be obeying. The fact of the matter is that Allah has commanded all of us, I am trying to do my part and I suggest you try as well. |
"...Verily, in the remembrance of Allâh do hearts find rest..." Sura Al-Rad (Chapter 13, Verse 28)
...Gambian by birth, Muslim by the grace of Allah... |
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Alhassan
Sweden
813 Posts |
Posted - 01 Mar 2007 : 15:35:13
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Originally posted by mansasulu
Toubab, you conveniently forgot to tell us what reuters said the crimes committed by those beheaded were. In any case, more people are executed in the United States last year than were beheaded in Saudi Arabia, check the facts.
Jambo, only two of those dates you mentioned are "holidays" in gambia: Eid ul Fitr and Eid ul Adha, ask people who know better.
Alhassan implementing Shariah is not a matter of opinion. It is a commandment from Allah that we should be obeying. The fact of the matter is that Allah has commanded all of us, I am trying to do my part and I suggest you try as well.
mansasulu,
I try to live as honest and law binding as possible. I do not wish to advocate Sharia because it does not suit Gambia. We cannot live under two laws.
A similar suggestion was given here by som Muslims but it has totally failed because this country has its own laws and are satisfied and comfortable with them. Everybody residing here shall obey the country's laws this applies to Muslims who live here too. |
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Alhassan
Sweden
813 Posts |
Posted - 01 Mar 2007 : 15:35:13
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Originally posted by mansasulu
Toubab, you conveniently forgot to tell us what reuters said the crimes committed by those beheaded were. In any case, more people are executed in the United States last year than were beheaded in Saudi Arabia, check the facts.
Jambo, only two of those dates you mentioned are "holidays" in gambia: Eid ul Fitr and Eid ul Adha, ask people who know better.
Alhassan implementing Shariah is not a matter of opinion. It is a commandment from Allah that we should be obeying. The fact of the matter is that Allah has commanded all of us, I am trying to do my part and I suggest you try as well.
mansasulu,
I try to live as honest and law binding as possible. I do not wish to advocate Sharia because it does not suit Gambia. We cannot live under two laws.
A similar suggestion was given here by som Muslims but it has totally failed because this country has its own laws and are satisfied and comfortable with them. Everybody residing here shall obey the country's laws this applies to Muslims who live here too. |
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