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jambo
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 Posted - 22 Feb 2007 : 23:37:40
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MANSASULU
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Originally posted by mansasulu
If you stone the adulterers to death why will you need prisons? Common law or what have you has shown how inept it is to solving our problem, so we need to revert to the tried and tested system.
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I think you have dangerous ideas. I am out of this discussion. Like Jesus said; " He that has not sinneth, cast the first stone"
so mansasulu i ask you this, do you want sharia law in Gambia, becuase i know plenty of people who have committed adultery, but i would not throw the stone, would you
the weekend of is a colonial legacy because when gambia was established if followed a european work week, monday to friday, but now it accomodates half day friday. what days would you like the ministers to work. if you do not like the system what would put in place, when and how. other islamic countries have accommodated european times into the way of life out of neccessity, banks are not open on a friday to the public but they are open for trading because of the international clock
i say again if you put in place in gambia sharia law Gambians would not practice it. it is a north african thing and practiced inthe middle east and they do stone women for adultery put not men, why is that.
LEAVE GAMBIA ALONE. i cannot see this change working
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Santanfara
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Posted - 23 Feb 2007 : 00:30:12
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Originally posted by jambo
MANSASULU
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Originally posted by mansasulu
If you stone the adulterers to death why will you need prisons? Common law or what have you has shown how inept it is to solving our problem, so we need to revert to the tried and tested system.
kons ----------------------------------------------------
I think you have dangerous ideas. I am out of this discussion. Like Jesus said; " He that has not sinneth, cast the first stone"
so mansasulu i ask you this, do you want sharia law in Gambia, becuase i know plenty of people who have committed adultery, but i would not throw the stone, would you
the weekend of is a colonial legacy because when gambia was established if followed a european work week, monday to friday, but now it accomodates half day friday. what days would you like the ministers to work. if you do not like the system what would put in place, when and how. other islamic countries have accommodated european times into the way of life out of neccessity, banks are not open on a friday to the public but they are open for trading because of the international clock
i say again if you put in place in gambia sharia law Gambians would not practice it. it is a north african thing and practiced inthe middle east and they do stone women for adultery put not men, why is that.
LEAVE GAMBIA ALONE. i cannot see this change working
mr jambo , i respect you and your opinions but i will not entertaine comments about islam which you have no knowledge of .being a christian doesn't mean you can say sharia is a north african thing.
islam is a global religion and the fastest for that matter so the begotry will not be allowed . whether gambia adopt sharia or not have nothing to do with north africa. we need a little lesson about certain things before making general comments. i am very familiar with christianity and i am so i never say any thing prejudice against that faith . so let not the hatered of a people make one to be unjust .say the truth even if it is against you .sharia will not be apply to any christians . |
Surah- Ar-Rum 30-22
"And among His signs is the creation of heavens and the earth, and the difference of your languages and colours. verily, in that are indeed signs for men of sound knowledge." Qu'ran
www.suntoumana.blogspot.com |
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Santanfara
3460 Posts |
Posted - 23 Feb 2007 : 00:30:12
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Originally posted by jambo
MANSASULU
quote: ---------------------------------------------------
Originally posted by mansasulu
If you stone the adulterers to death why will you need prisons? Common law or what have you has shown how inept it is to solving our problem, so we need to revert to the tried and tested system.
kons ----------------------------------------------------
I think you have dangerous ideas. I am out of this discussion. Like Jesus said; " He that has not sinneth, cast the first stone"
so mansasulu i ask you this, do you want sharia law in Gambia, becuase i know plenty of people who have committed adultery, but i would not throw the stone, would you
the weekend of is a colonial legacy because when gambia was established if followed a european work week, monday to friday, but now it accomodates half day friday. what days would you like the ministers to work. if you do not like the system what would put in place, when and how. other islamic countries have accommodated european times into the way of life out of neccessity, banks are not open on a friday to the public but they are open for trading because of the international clock
i say again if you put in place in gambia sharia law Gambians would not practice it. it is a north african thing and practiced inthe middle east and they do stone women for adultery put not men, why is that.
LEAVE GAMBIA ALONE. i cannot see this change working
mr jambo , i respect you and your opinions but i will not entertaine comments about islam which you have no knowledge of .being a christian doesn't mean you can say sharia is a north african thing.
islam is a global religion and the fastest for that matter so the begotry will not be allowed . whether gambia adopt sharia or not have nothing to do with north africa. we need a little lesson about certain things before making general comments. i am very familiar with christianity and i am so i never say any thing prejudice against that faith . so let not the hatered of a people make one to be unjust .say the truth even if it is against you .sharia will not be apply to any christians . |
Surah- Ar-Rum 30-22
"And among His signs is the creation of heavens and the earth, and the difference of your languages and colours. verily, in that are indeed signs for men of sound knowledge." Qu'ran
www.suntoumana.blogspot.com |
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justice
United Kingdom
44 Posts |
Posted - 23 Feb 2007 : 07:06:48
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Quran(103:30)
Verily man is in loss Except such as have faith,and do righteous deeds and (join together)in the mutual teaching of Truth,and of Paitence and constancy.
To Mansasulu,Santa and everyone in Bantaba May Allah bless & guide us to the right path |
Edited by - justice on 23 Feb 2007 07:07:19 |
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justice
United Kingdom
44 Posts |
Posted - 23 Feb 2007 : 07:06:48
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Quran(103:30)
Verily man is in loss Except such as have faith,and do righteous deeds and (join together)in the mutual teaching of Truth,and of Paitence and constancy.
To Mansasulu,Santa and everyone in Bantaba May Allah bless & guide us to the right path |
Edited by - justice on 23 Feb 2007 07:07:19 |
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jambo
3300 Posts |
Posted - 23 Feb 2007 : 09:51:30
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mr mansasulu, you still have not answered the questions, what "so called religion, you made a comment about my holy day" why do you say this "so called" is not saturday and sunday recognised as sabbath days in many parts of the global, or do you live somewhere else
respect my sabbath |
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jambo
3300 Posts |
Posted - 23 Feb 2007 : 09:51:30
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mr mansasulu, you still have not answered the questions, what "so called religion, you made a comment about my holy day" why do you say this "so called" is not saturday and sunday recognised as sabbath days in many parts of the global, or do you live somewhere else
respect my sabbath |
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mbay
Germany
1007 Posts |
Posted - 23 Feb 2007 : 10:48:56
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Two in one?
The Sharia / shariah, = way or path,
Is the body of Islamic law, deals with the ideology and faith, behavior and manners.
Fiqh= understanding, knowledge, and comprehension.
It refers to the study of the law in Islam and is usually defined in jurisprudence textbooks as the knowledge of the rights and duties whereby human beings are enabled to observe right conduct in this life and to prepare themselves for the world to come. Whereas shariah refers to the divine law itself, fiqh denotes the human interpretation of the divine commands; it constitutes the discipline of deriving and formulating positive law in a number of branches including worship contractual law, criminal, family and personal law.
Qur’an 45:17 And We gave them clear indications of the purpose of faith and it was only after all this knowledge had been vouchsafed to them that they began, out of mutual jealousy, to hold divergent views, verily, thy Sustainer will judge between them on Resurrection Day regarding all whereon they were wont to differ.
=18. We then appointed you to establish the correct laws; you shall follow this, and do not follow the wishes of those who do not know
The System of divine law; way of belief and practice, knowing your right as well as those that He creates.
JUSTICE AMONG US! .this rules was lined since 1 creation, and is among the first things that is important for Him.
5:48.To thee We sent the Scripture in truth, confirming the Scripture that came before it. and guarding it in safety:
So judge between them by what Allah hath revealed, and follow not their vain desires
On a way of the purpose of faith. It is to be borne in mind that the literal meaning of the term shariah is the way to a watering-place, and since water is indispensable for all organic life, this term has in time come to denote a system of laws, both moral and practical, which shows man the way towards spiritual fulfillment and social welfare: hence,religious law in the widest sense of the term.
I.e., who are not - or not primarily - motivated by God-consciousness and, hence, are swayed only by what they themselves regard as right in accordance with worldly, changing circum stances.
These two are all one (Mujitahidun/Fatwa) when we all take a positive toward it. Then palpably DON’T NEED contentions over SHARIA/SHARIAH to impose in an area of 11,300 sq km.
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mbay
Germany
1007 Posts |
Posted - 23 Feb 2007 : 10:48:56
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Two in one?
The Sharia / shariah, = way or path,
Is the body of Islamic law, deals with the ideology and faith, behavior and manners.
Fiqh= understanding, knowledge, and comprehension.
It refers to the study of the law in Islam and is usually defined in jurisprudence textbooks as the knowledge of the rights and duties whereby human beings are enabled to observe right conduct in this life and to prepare themselves for the world to come. Whereas shariah refers to the divine law itself, fiqh denotes the human interpretation of the divine commands; it constitutes the discipline of deriving and formulating positive law in a number of branches including worship contractual law, criminal, family and personal law.
Qur’an 45:17 And We gave them clear indications of the purpose of faith and it was only after all this knowledge had been vouchsafed to them that they began, out of mutual jealousy, to hold divergent views, verily, thy Sustainer will judge between them on Resurrection Day regarding all whereon they were wont to differ.
=18. We then appointed you to establish the correct laws; you shall follow this, and do not follow the wishes of those who do not know
The System of divine law; way of belief and practice, knowing your right as well as those that He creates.
JUSTICE AMONG US! .this rules was lined since 1 creation, and is among the first things that is important for Him.
5:48.To thee We sent the Scripture in truth, confirming the Scripture that came before it. and guarding it in safety:
So judge between them by what Allah hath revealed, and follow not their vain desires
On a way of the purpose of faith. It is to be borne in mind that the literal meaning of the term shariah is the way to a watering-place, and since water is indispensable for all organic life, this term has in time come to denote a system of laws, both moral and practical, which shows man the way towards spiritual fulfillment and social welfare: hence,religious law in the widest sense of the term.
I.e., who are not - or not primarily - motivated by God-consciousness and, hence, are swayed only by what they themselves regard as right in accordance with worldly, changing circum stances.
These two are all one (Mujitahidun/Fatwa) when we all take a positive toward it. Then palpably DON’T NEED contentions over SHARIA/SHARIAH to impose in an area of 11,300 sq km.
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mansasulu
997 Posts |
Posted - 23 Feb 2007 : 15:01:42
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| Jambo, I don't have a problem with your Sabbath or your Sunday, since you cant make up your mind which is holy to you. You dont have a problem resting on those two days, but you are worried about running of taxis, and supermarkets on Friday? This is he epitomy of hypocrisy. What I have a problem is claiming that Gambia is a democratic and secular country and yet still the minority has more "holydays." Dont you find it ironic that the majority of school holidays are crafted around christian holidays even though christians are less that 10%. You called that democratic. |
"...Verily, in the remembrance of Allâh do hearts find rest..." Sura Al-Rad (Chapter 13, Verse 28)
...Gambian by birth, Muslim by the grace of Allah... |
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mansasulu
997 Posts |
Posted - 23 Feb 2007 : 15:01:42
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| Jambo, I don't have a problem with your Sabbath or your Sunday, since you cant make up your mind which is holy to you. You dont have a problem resting on those two days, but you are worried about running of taxis, and supermarkets on Friday? This is he epitomy of hypocrisy. What I have a problem is claiming that Gambia is a democratic and secular country and yet still the minority has more "holydays." Dont you find it ironic that the majority of school holidays are crafted around christian holidays even though christians are less that 10%. You called that democratic. |
"...Verily, in the remembrance of Allâh do hearts find rest..." Sura Al-Rad (Chapter 13, Verse 28)
...Gambian by birth, Muslim by the grace of Allah... |
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MADIBA
United Kingdom
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Posted - 23 Feb 2007 : 15:27:10
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Originally posted by mansasulu
Jambo, I don't have a problem with your Sabbath or your Sunday, since you cant make up your mind which is holy to you. You dont have a problem resting on those two days, but you are worried about running of taxis, and supermarkets on Friday? This is he epitomy of hypocrisy. What I have a problem is claiming that Gambia is a democratic and secular country and yet still the minority has more "holydays." Dont you find it ironic that the majority of school holidays are crafted around christian holidays even though christians are less that 10%. You called that democratic.
Are there muslim holidays presently not observed in The Gambia? |
madiss |
Edited by - MADIBA on 23 Feb 2007 15:27:59 |
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MADIBA
United Kingdom
1275 Posts |
Posted - 23 Feb 2007 : 15:27:10
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Originally posted by mansasulu
Jambo, I don't have a problem with your Sabbath or your Sunday, since you cant make up your mind which is holy to you. You dont have a problem resting on those two days, but you are worried about running of taxis, and supermarkets on Friday? This is he epitomy of hypocrisy. What I have a problem is claiming that Gambia is a democratic and secular country and yet still the minority has more "holydays." Dont you find it ironic that the majority of school holidays are crafted around christian holidays even though christians are less that 10%. You called that democratic.
Are there muslim holidays presently not observed in The Gambia? |
madiss |
Edited by - MADIBA on 23 Feb 2007 15:27:59 |
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mansasulu
997 Posts |
Posted - 23 Feb 2007 : 16:28:56
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| No. Is anyone claiming muslim holidays are not observed in Gambia? |
"...Verily, in the remembrance of Allâh do hearts find rest..." Sura Al-Rad (Chapter 13, Verse 28)
...Gambian by birth, Muslim by the grace of Allah... |
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mansasulu
997 Posts |
Posted - 23 Feb 2007 : 16:28:56
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| No. Is anyone claiming muslim holidays are not observed in Gambia? |
"...Verily, in the remembrance of Allâh do hearts find rest..." Sura Al-Rad (Chapter 13, Verse 28)
...Gambian by birth, Muslim by the grace of Allah... |
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