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kayjatta
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 Posted - 08 Jul 2006 : 23:20:54
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Thanks Somita, Njucks, Jambo, and all. It appears clear that Gambia cannot afford to depart from the path of democracy to anything else.our democratic system is flawed but it is working.The fact that it is working is what preserved us during a time when many others in the sub-region were mired in self-destructive war-fares.
Our democratic system , i admit is flawed ; so we need to work hard to do the follwing (among many other tasks):
(1) institude a presidential term limit.
(2)make the electoral commission TRULY independent(from the executive)
(3)make the legislature TRULY independent of the executive and directly answerable to the electorate.I mean the executive should not be able to determine anyone's candidature or non-candidature for the ruling party . Only the electorate should. This way members of the national assembly can disagree with the president's policy and bills without fear of reprimand.The national assembly members of the ruling party need to understand their duty is not just to support the president of their party but also to balance that with their duty to protect the independence of the legislature from the executive branch. Failure to do this undermines the SEPARATION OF POWERS and our democratic society.
(4)Judicial reform is probably going on right now , but needs to speed up. Gambia must become purely a nation of laws that protects everyone equally.
(5)Campaign finance.The use and abuse of government resources and civil servants to the exclusive advantage of the ruling party needs to be discussed and checked.
Hopefully , if these and many other measures and implemented democracy in the Gambia will improve a lot. |
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jambo
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Posted - 13 Jul 2006 : 19:09:46
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Kayjatta i would like to make some comments on the following, it is a good list, you should be in politics. or are you already there.
(1) "institude a presidential term limit".
i thought there was limit two terms written into the consitution.
2) "make the electoral commission TRULY independent(from the executive"
how and who would do this, there would have to be a time limit.
3 "This way members of the national assembly can disagree with the president's policy and bills without fear of reprimand.The national assembly members of the ruling party need to understand their duty is not just to support the president of their party". Do you think the members would agree.
(4)Judicial reform is probably going on right now , but needs to speed up.  THE ENEMY IS SPEED
(5)Campaign finance.The use and abuse of government resources and civil servants to the exclusive advantage of the ruling party needs to be discussed and checked.
Who would discuss and check it, i think it would stay the same no matter who was put in charge.
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kayjatta
2978 Posts |
Posted - 14 Jul 2006 : 20:31:24
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Jambo:
Well , the easier and common way will be the enactment of statutes by the legislature, which in extreme cases could be initiated by a petition by a group of citizens probably.
The recent sacking and arrest of Duta Kamsso , a national assembly member particularly should prompt the members of the national assembly to consider limiting the powers of the president/executive viz a viz the legislature.
Concerning your question whether i am in politics . No i am not , but i have my eye on the presidency one day. Would you vote for me ? |
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kondorong
Gambia
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Posted - 14 Jul 2006 : 20:53:20
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Originally posted by kayjatta
Jambo:
Well , the easier and common way will be the enactment of statutes by the legislature, which in extreme cases could be initiated by a petition by a group of citizens probably.
The recent sacking and arrest of Duta Kamsso , a national assembly member particularly should prompt the members of the national assembly to consider limiting the powers of the president/executive viz a viz the legislature.
Concerning your question whether i am in politics . No i am not , but i have my eye on the presidency one day. Would you vote for me ?
I AM NOT SUPRISED THAT BANTABA HAS A PRESIDENTIAL ASPIRANT. I WILL VOTE FOR IF YOU WILL GIVE A LIMOUSINE THERE IS NO FREE LUNCH.
AM JUST KIDDING. GOOD LUCK AND SEND ME AN EMAIL ANYTIME YOU HAVE DECIDE TO RUN FOR OFFICE. I WILL SHAVE MY LONG BEARD AND CAMPAIGN FOR YOU |
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Janyanfara
Tanzania
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Posted - 16 Jul 2006 : 22:39:03
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| You have mine too. |
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jambo
3300 Posts |
Posted - 17 Jul 2006 : 11:29:48
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| Kayjatta, is not the presidential term for Gambia limited. What does your consititution say. |
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kayjatta
2978 Posts |
Posted - 18 Jul 2006 : 22:30:29
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SORRY JAMBO , I DIDN'T QUIET GET YOU . WERE YOU ASKING ME WHETHER THERE IS NO TERM LIMIT IN THE GAMBIAN CONSTITUTION ?
THERE IS NO TERM LIMIT FOR PRESIDENCY THAT I KNOW OF. IS THERE ONE ? I THINK THERE NEEDS TO BE A TWO TERMS LIMT ; MANY GAMBIANS WILL AGREE. |
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kondorong
Gambia
4380 Posts |
Posted - 18 Jul 2006 : 23:03:15
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| THERE IS A TERM LIMIT. IT DEPENDS ON WHICH GAMBIAN CONSTITUTION YOU HAVE. ANYWAY, THE ONE IN YORO BAWOL HAS TWO TERM LIMITS. THAT WHAT WE VOTED FOR |
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Janyanfara
Tanzania
1350 Posts |
Posted - 19 Jul 2006 : 00:44:25
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No you see, there was a term limit on the drafted constitution.(I saw the original)
My friends the Gambia has a lot of history to tell thirty years when Jammeh finally leaves. |
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LEMON TIME
Afghanistan
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Posted - 19 Jul 2006 : 04:56:16
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| JAWARA DONE 30YEARS YAYA TOO WANTS 30YEARS,SO THE TERM LIMIT COULD BE 30YEARS.HOPE OUR NEXT LEADER WILL NOT WANT 40YEARS. |
There is no god but Allah |
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jambo
3300 Posts |
Posted - 19 Jul 2006 : 15:04:08
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Kayjatta, i thought the consitution limited the presidency for two terms like nigeria, that Yaya tried to change it to allow for a third term of presidency.
Kons, Kobo, Lemontime sister omega, members of the bantaba help, i am sure that this was discussed not too long ago on the this forum. that Yaya was trying to get the consititution changed. I am trying to find the link or forum that explained the terms and wording.
Kayjatta, if Gambians in the disapora are not aware of the consititution perhpas that needs to be addressed.
any suggestions. |
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kayjatta
2978 Posts |
Posted - 19 Jul 2006 : 20:31:03
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I have been away from the Gambia for many years , and this is sad to say but I am more conversant with the U.S. constitution than the Gambia's.
However , i know that the report "The National Consultation Committee"(NCC) chaired by Dr. Lenrie Peters in around 1994 that gave the then AFPRC a "two year transition period" contained a two terms limit for presidency.However , when the report was submitted to the executive (AFPRC) the two terms limit provision was squashed. So the Gambia never actually has a presidential term limit , it was only suggested by the NCC report in 1994.
If there is a two terms limit in the constitution then we should be in court with Jammeh. Somebody correct me please ! |
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kondorong
Gambia
4380 Posts |
Posted - 19 Jul 2006 : 20:37:05
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| Are you going to be the Defense Attorney and what court are you talking about. Are you talking about the U.S SUPREME COURT OR THE HAGUE |
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kayjatta
2978 Posts |
Posted - 19 Jul 2006 : 20:58:35
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My man , you are extremely funny... ! I admire your wit. But yeah there are very competent attorneys , politicians , interested citizens that can bring this matter to court.Since it is a constitutional matter it is likely to be decided by the Supreme court of the Gambia (not the Hague for genocide and human rights issues ). |
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sab
United Kingdom
912 Posts |
Posted - 19 Jul 2006 : 21:09:53
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The number of terms is not restricted!
When I despair, I remember that all through history the ways of truth and love have always won.
There have been tyrants, and murderers, and for a time they can seem invincible, but in the end they always fall. Think of it - always. |
The world would be a poorer place if it was peopled by children whose parents risked nothing in the cause of social justice, for fear of personal loss. (Joe Slovo - African revolutionary) |
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