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Sister Omega
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 Posted - 09 Oct 2010 : 17:53:34
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I totally agree with the comment Prince said about Turk derailing important issues especially anything to do with contemporary slavery.
It is an ambomination that human beings are subjected to legalised torture under the justification of racism. No matter how much Turk wants to deny that Arabs are still practicing chattel slavery the ill treatment and death of slaves keeps on raising its ugly head.
The Saudi abuser deserves in my view nothing less than a life sentence with no prospect of parol.
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turk
USA
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Posted - 09 Oct 2010 : 19:49:52
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| Sista - When I listen people like you and prince, I understand why some societies fail. It is psychological defense mechanism, blame others but yourself for the issues. This murder has nothing to do with ethnicity. The victim is gigolo who 'choose' to be with his abuser. I repeat 'choose'. |
diaspora! Too many Chiefs and Very Few Indians.
Halifa Salah: PDOIS is however realistic. It is fully aware that the Gambian voters are yet to reach a level of political consciousness that they rely on to vote on the basis of Principles, policies and programmes and practices. |
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Sister Omega
United Kingdom
2085 Posts |
Posted - 09 Oct 2010 : 20:22:01
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There is an East End expression that goes you are all ass abou face. The only one who is twisted around here is you Turk. And it just seems that no matter what subject matter is presented here on the bantabaa always comes back to you and Turkey. Why don't do us all a favour and start your own Turkish blog for the Turkish and friends of Dear! I look foward to see it.
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turk
USA
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Posted - 09 Oct 2010 : 20:32:11
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You are the one brings this to Turkey. What does this have anything to do with Turkey!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Who else will you blame for the failure, Arabs, Turks, Martians? Who else?
Fact: The murderer is Gay
Fact: The murderer is rich.
Fact: The victim is also Gay.
Fact: The victim works for this abuser.
Fact: He is willing to be in this sick relationship, with his own will. Noooooooooo one is forcing him. Nooooo one. The victim is a grown man. He is in this relationship based on his preferences.
Money, economic dependence, domestic violence, sexual abuse ring bells?
The murderer's ethnicity has nothing to do with this. You can't blame his ethnicity. Don't start me quoting other sick people and how they relate the 'crime', 'criminal profiling' with the ethnicity and race which I found it to be sick. Just like this post. |
diaspora! Too many Chiefs and Very Few Indians.
Halifa Salah: PDOIS is however realistic. It is fully aware that the Gambian voters are yet to reach a level of political consciousness that they rely on to vote on the basis of Principles, policies and programmes and practices. |
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Prince
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Posted - 10 Oct 2010 : 01:42:57
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quote:
Originally posted by Sister Omega
I totally agree with the comment Prince said about Turk derailing important issues especially anything to do with contemporary slavery.
Sis, you are wasting your time... this Turk fellow is an extremely sensitive psycho who frequently suffers from cognitive dissonance. He is continually trying to justify, deny, and shift blame whenever certain topics are raised.
His MO is to digress to irrelevant issues like "crime statistics," or go into ad hominem arguments-- often by accusing total strangers of his ludicrous daydreams. He is like some people in the States who resort to playing the "naming and shaming" race-card whenever their deficiencies are called out.
I never mentioned race when I initially posted this thread, and nowhere did I mention "Arabs" as a people. I called out the man's Saudi nationality just like the rest of the reputable news organizations. I also mentioned "cave and camels," because most Saudis are Bedouins who have a culture of owning slaves, women and camels. These nouveau riche Saudis basically started flaunting their wealth after 1970's oil crisis, so it is obvious that they still hold on to their savage culture of owning fellow men.
The institution of slavery is still tolerated in Saudi....for shiit sake, it wasn't until 1962 that it became "illegal" to own slaves in Saudi. It is not coincidence that Saudi Arabia is one of the few countries who vehemently fought the draft of the UN human rights proposal banning slavery and other heinous vices.
Fact of the matter is, the killed guy wasn't free. Slavery isn't a shackles and chains thing, it is a mental state. Using the illusional Turk's line of reasoning would be equivalent to us blaming people of the 1700's for not walking away when they accompanied Jefferson to DC or other free states given that he was impregnating most of his black slaves....
Btw, Turk, stop deceiving the simple Toubab, homosexuality is no more prevalent in Saudi Arabia than it is in the rest of the world. Your homophobia is disgustingly sickening (now that you have a bone, chew on it). The claim that the man is homosexual is at best, speculative and unsubstantiated. The murdered man, like most slaves, could have had an additional role of fulfilling his master's sexual gratification against his will. |
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turk
USA
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Posted - 10 Oct 2010 : 03:49:18
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| The man is NOT slave. This is a fact. There is no credible information on the news articles that he is a slave. He is a gigolo. Servant. Whore. And there is nothing in what I said is homophobic other than stating the fact that he is gay and homosexuality is common in elite Saudi society. Can't you read what I said? If the victim acts like a slave and he is mentally slave, this is murderer's flaw , it is own his choice. The claim that the victim is SLAVE is at best is an illusion factored by your bigoted, racist view on Arabs. There is not credible reference on slavery. I am coming to conclusion based on the INFORMATION and FACTs available to me via links about this murder. Prince goes further with little information, he sees hallucination and corrupted wisdom based on prejudiced factored slavery story. And most important blame everyone else but himself for the failure. |
diaspora! Too many Chiefs and Very Few Indians.
Halifa Salah: PDOIS is however realistic. It is fully aware that the Gambian voters are yet to reach a level of political consciousness that they rely on to vote on the basis of Principles, policies and programmes and practices. |
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Senegambia
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Posted - 19 Oct 2010 : 19:14:59
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To see the video in which this goddamned prince beats this person click: http://edition.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/europe/10/19/england.saudi.prince.verdict/index.html?hpt=T1
Saudi prince found guilty of murdering aide
London, England (CNN) -- A Saudi prince was found guilty Tuesday of murdering an aide at a London hotel in February, in a case which prosecutors said had a sexual element.
Prince Saud Abdulaziz Bin Nasser Al Saud was found guilty of both murder and grievous bodily harm in the killing of Bandar Abdulaziz.
Abdulaziz died after a severe beating left him with swelling and bruising of the brain and fractured ribs and neck. He also had bite marks on his face, ears and arm.
The prince had not denied killing the aide, but said he had not intended to do so. He is due to be sentenced Wednesday.
He did not take the stand in his own defense.
Because the prince did not deny killing Abdulaziz, the jury's job was to determine if he was guilty of murder or manslaughter.
To do that, jurors had to determine the prince's state of mind and his intent at the time he killed Abdulaziz.
The jury took just over an hour and a half Tuesday to reach its verdict.
The prince -- who is both a grandson and a great-nephew of Saudi King Abdullah, since his parents are cousins -- showed no reaction as the jury's unanimous verdict was read in court.
Police said after the verdict that the prince had shown no remorse when he was questioned about his servant's death, instead "concocting a story" about how he died.
"When that was found to be a pack of lies, he tried to claim diplomatic immunity," but did not qualify for it, John McFarlane of London's Metropolitan Police told journalists outside the court Tuesday.
Prosecutors said the prince's systematic mistreatment of the victim had a sexual element.
The bitings suffered by Abdulaziz were not a factor in his death, but had "an obvious sexual connotation," prosecutor Jonathan Laidlaw said in his opening statement two weeks ago.
The two men were in London earlier this year as Al Saud took in Morocco, the Maldives and other European cities on a long global holiday with Abdulaziz as his companion.
Al Saud's lawyer, John Kelsey-Fry, said in his closing argument Monday that Al Saud "must live with the consequences" of having killed Abdulaziz, but he never intended to harm him.
Kelsey-Fry reminded the jury that a pathologist had been unable to determine how Abdulaziz died but that only one of his injuries, by itself, could have killed him -- a compression of the neck, the barrister said, that could have been caused when Al Saud grabbed Abdulaziz briefly by the throat.
An "awful, reprehensible, culpable act," he said, "but an act of murder?"
Kelsey-Fry also challenged the prosecution's assertion that the defendant and the victim had a master-servant relationship, telling the jury that the two men had "enjoyed a genuine friendship."
He also disputed suggestions from the prosecutor and several witnesses that the prince and his aide had a gay relationship.
During their visit to London, the two men shared a hotel room, went shopping together and stayed out late in bars and nightclubs.
Earlier in the day, prosecutor Laidlaw presented his closing argument. He told the jury they might consider drawing an "adverse inference" from the prince's refusal to face questions.
The case "cries out for an explanation," he said, adding that the jury might care to reflect on how the prince might have answered questions about the nature of his relationship with Abdulaziz, why it was that he attacked him on more than one occasion, his account of what happened the night his aide died and why it was that he waited hours before informing anyone of his death.
When he did contact authorities, Al Saud said that Abdulaziz had been assaulted by robbers three weeks earlier.
He is a man, said Laidlaw, "incapable of telling the truth."
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