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sss

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Posted - 30 Apr 2006 : 14:04:46
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| i think jawara is worst than jammeh.what human rights are u talking about?i hope is not the cheap awards he was receiving even jammeh has those human rights award.first of all the mess we are in is the deeds of jawara.do u remember the time of ppp,u could not get job if your father is in the opposition.even your business will be closed.and what about those gross curruption happening during that time when ministers' sons ride cars to school while u stand on highway asking for ride because they cheated ur dad out his groundnut harvest.for thirty years i can't think of anything good jawara did.i can say as bad as jammeh is ,he laid the foundation for university in the gambia.for thirty years u couldn't developed anything.what is he, a retard.am sick of people saying jawara was champion of human rights. |
THE MESSENGER OF GOD(peace and blessing be always upon him)SAID,"WHOEVER WALKS WITH A TYRANT IN SUPPORT OF HIM,WHILE AWARE OF HIS TYRANNY,HAS ABANDONED ISLAM."At-Tabarani
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kobo

United Kingdom
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Posted - 30 Apr 2006 : 16:12:26
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quote: Originally posted by sss
i think jawara is worst than jammeh.what human rights are u talking about?i hope is not the cheap awards he was receiving even jammeh has those human rights award.first of all the mess we are in is the deeds of jawara.do u remember the time of ppp,u could not get job if your father is in the opposition.even your business will be closed.and what about those gross curruption happening during that time when ministers' sons ride cars to school while u stand on highway asking for ride because they cheated ur dad out his groundnut harvest.for thirty years i can't think of anything good jawara did.i can say as bad as jammeh is ,he laid the foundation for university in the gambia.for thirty years u couldn't developed anything.what is he, a retard.am sick of people saying jawara was champion of human rights.
I don,t think the human records we refer mean cheap words, paper qualification, titles or accolades given as honours to them. We are assessing the political realities that existed or presently. These human rights we are talking about are "freedom of expression, maiming of press freedom, arbitary arrests, intimidation, detention and conscription of justice, arsons and destruction of properties, assassinations, death and murder, victimisation, level of crimes, lack of civil rights and proper democracy non-existent or not seen to be working adeguately. On level of corruption I think it still persist and could even be worst, as Public Accounts Committee cannot consider any up-todate report from the Accountant General. However limited the report of the Auditor General is, the recent report is very alarming! If there is more transparency and accountability we may be in a position to exposed our level of funds in our coffers, the treasury, the Central Bank and the state of the economy. Poverty level indicators shows the trends for e.g cost of living, prices and rate of inflation. On the political atmosphere we question "free and fair election" and no dictatorship? There are some positives and negatives under the following:- The infrastructures, Health, Education, Trade, Tourism, Agriculture. However don't forget about Food, Electricity and Water as part of the funds should have addressed these basic things of living peacefully. |
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OB1
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Posted - 30 Apr 2006 : 20:01:43
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People, Jammeh is worse than Jawara. I BET thr=ere are some people out there, thinkin'....Would we ever bow down to boy named JUNKUNG?????
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kobo

United Kingdom
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Posted - 03 May 2006 : 02:26:28
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Inflation can be considered to rise by 200% or more according to this source of information culled from the Observer newspaper as dated below
WORKERS CALL FOR SALARY INCREASE Written by Assan Sallah Tuesday, 02 May 2006 The Gambia Workers Union has urged The Gambia Government to up workers salaries by 200% across the board, excluding Secretaries of State.
Speaking yesterday at the Independence Stadium, Bakau, during the Workers Day celebrations, Mr Ebrima Garba Cham, the Secretary-General of The Gambia National Trade Union (GNTU), said increase in salary will serve both workers and pensioners well. He noted that salaries have not been rising correspondingly with the prices of essential commodities.
Mr Cham also called on the Secretary of State for Trade, Industry and Employment (DoSTIE) to upgrade the minimum wage to a level that suits the present needs and aspirations of the workers.
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The economic conditions prevailing or currently biting at home can be seen from the request for workers above. There is hardship and poverty is a reality check.
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kobo

United Kingdom
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Posted - 03 May 2006 : 20:31:32
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| I see better results going in the basket of Jawara rather than Jammeh. This does not mean that Jawara and his Goernment are vindicated, rather am using his term for comparative analysis so that we would be in a position to know at the moment where Gambia is politically under Jammeh's rule and stewardship. However there is also the impression that Jammeh have taken good strides in infrastrures and development projects. However am not at all impressed as the homework was executed during Jawara's era until few months of implemenation of most of them when his government was toppled. We may go back since the time of of World Bank austerity,the poverty alleviation programmes of Jawara, Bakary Bunja Darboes initiatives, UNDP Representative Dr Angelios consultancy for many viable projects compiled and tabled for funding. There were lots of sensitisation at all levels and a data bank of well reasearh projects including The Gambia Radio and Television Services, Roads and even the Gambia University programmes were compiled before the overthrow of Jawara. Aftermath of the military take-over, the Gambia was sanctioned but UNDP and World Bank were already commited and they stated funding must continue irrespective of military rule. Jammeh acted swiftly to set up the TV station and move outright to the University programmes amongst others. At the time of Dr. Angelio, Ajaratou Isatou Njie Saidy was serving at the UNDP and that earned or landed her to rise through to Vice President to help steer the programmes Jammeh want to see implemented as she is competent with policy and programme management whist serving UNDP. The sadest thing is that you cannot run a state like a private property and the lack of transparency and accountability outweigh the infrastructures built from those millions of dalasis lobbied before Jammeh came to power. |
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mbay
Germany
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Posted - 04 May 2006 : 16:19:32
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i choice yahya Cos he is a tough guy ,we use to said in our language that if you are in a group of wolf you most also have sharp knife with you if not you might be a dinner for them you know what i mean ?.sir D K J might be a silence in sight but what did he give us in return?NULL/NADA/NOTING and more over don't you think he cause all this noise. |
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kobo

United Kingdom
7765 Posts |
Posted - 04 May 2006 : 17:24:43
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quote: Originally posted by mbay
i choice yahya Cos he is a tough guy ,we use to said in our language that if you are in a group of wolf you most also have sharp knife with you if not you might be a dinner for them you know what i mean ?.sir D K J might be a silence in sight but what did he give us in return?NULL/NADA/NOTING and more over don't you think he cause all this noise.
Am sorry to expressed that I don't know what you mean please clarify your points. |
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kobo

United Kingdom
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kobo

United Kingdom
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babygirl

United Kingdom
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Posted - 08 Jun 2006 : 23:25:37
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im not very political but i was living in gambia during Jawaras time. I was also living in Gambia during the coup and alledged attempted coup that followed shortly after.
I have had several years since then not visiting the Gambia. Although i have kept in touch with my friends, i did not realise for sometime how bad things had got.
This year was my first time back in Gambia and i was shocked at the deterioration. Yes some of the roads are better, yes the Gambia is now so much more built up with some stunning houses and buildings. But people are so much worse off, people are struggling. The dalasi is now so weak whereas it was only D15 to the £1 when i left. The hassle is so much more than it ever was.
So my vote for the worst leader goes to Jammeh. |
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Jack

Belgium
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Posted - 08 Jun 2006 : 23:40:59
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Be careful Babygirl by saying things like that on the Bantaba. Your next visit could well be starting in the NIA headquarters ( and thats at least for 1 month)  |
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gambiabev
United Kingdom
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Posted - 08 Jun 2006 : 23:48:25
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Baby girl you are right. Life has got so much harder for ordinary people due to inflation on goods...but not on wages! 
A bag of rice takes nearly the months salary....not much left for 'luxuries'.
In the tourist trade wages should be increased by international companies......
How many people in eu would work for 1000dls a month.......on call 24/7........ |
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wollofnjie
United Kingdom
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Posted - 09 Jun 2006 : 12:09:42
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There is no contest, Sir Dawada had a better governance.We might anlyse the issue till the cows come home but only morons would think about Jammeh's regime being the better one.How are you to enjoy whatever ''prosperity''some people are claiming when you do not have freedom-Freedom is everything. During Jawara's time there was no climate of fear you can critise the government without fear of of being arrested,tortured or thrown in jail the country was more politically stable than it is now. Can you imagine being arrested for reading an on-line newspaper? A fouteen year old thrown in cell,beaten just being a subscriber to a paper.There are lots of arbitary activities going on right now which is alien to our society.All we used to know was peace but not anymore. |
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somita

United Kingdom
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Posted - 09 Jun 2006 : 14:49:33
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I dont think there is huge contest between Jammeh and Jawara .... I think Jawara will undoubtedly come on top on every measureable step on the way. This is no way a suggestion that Jawara regime was best for Gambia, however Jawara has by far a better adminstrative record than Jammeh and most importantly approached Gambians with respect and integrity.
Jawara gets my thumbs up and Jammeh thumbs down.
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kondorong

Gambia
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Posted - 09 Jun 2006 : 18:03:14
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SDomita
Are you blinded by the infrastructural developments jammeh ushered in. Jawara kept us in the dark. I think education is key to life. I think junkung needs to improve his public relations and human rights record. If he could be a little bit humbled, then he will automatically overtake Jawara.
His biggest monster is is not letting people make choices for themselves and which include but not limited to free speech, assemly, and a free press.
Unfortunately they both have my thumbs down. |
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