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Dalton1



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Posted - 12 Dec 2008 :  17:53:03  Show Profile  Visit Dalton1's Homepage Send Dalton1 a Private Message

How can Obama engage African leaders?

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As always, western powers always engage in hypocrisy because they won't stop doing surface talks with dictators. Little or nothing is being done to help Africans. At least, that is the feelings I have some times. I am sure others will say, "Only Africans will free themselves." That is a fact indisputable. Mostly, it is about interest of the great powers like Britain and America. They make smiles with Africans, and at the back of their minds loaded with blood-sucking instints. When they needed slaves, they had it. When they needed gold, they had it. When they needed oil and diamond, they had it. Some of them won't stop sponsoring terror for their own interest. That should be at a complete stop.

In Baldeh's writeup, he challenged the Obama administration to engage African leaders in their failed leadership.
What that means, dictators like jammeh should be working with ultimarums. it is either justice and co-existence, or they have the highways to face true justice. In conclusion, Baldeh argued that we can all make this happen.

Please add your opinion as time permits...

Dalton

"There is no god but Allah (SWT); and Muhammad (SAW)is His last messenger." shahadah. Fear & Worship Allah (SWT) Alone! (:

kondorong



Gambia
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Posted - 12 Dec 2008 :  20:22:36  Show Profile Send kondorong a Private Message
Dalton

I wish i had time but my third piece on Obama was going to be exactly about his relationship with Africa. I believe in a nutsell that he should be very frank in his dealings and that good governance is a must for any form of aid to that continent.

Respect for rights of citizens should not be compromised. But i think his work is cut out for him. Kenya, his ancestral home, should be in the fore front of political reform.

I do not believe in the doctrine of non interference in internal affairs of nations in the face of abuse of rights, genocide or civil war. Look at Rwanda, Congo, Dafur etc. Powerful nations should speak for the weak. I do also believe that sustainable change must come from within each society. Both must go hand in hand.

The West took us (Africans) to war in Europe to defend atrocities when Africa was infact colonised. We were told that we were defending justice but it just so appears that when we needed justice ourselves, it became politcally incorrect to interfere in internal matters of nations. But the same west, never stood by and watch Kosovo, Albania etc. NATO was everywhere. Perhaps Africa needed to metamorphose into something to deserve something worth dying for by the international community.

I will contribute more later time permitting

“When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants and murderers, and for a time, they can seem invincible, but in the end, they always fall. Think of it--always.”
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Dalton1



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Posted - 12 Dec 2008 :  20:56:55  Show Profile  Visit Dalton1's Homepage Send Dalton1 a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by kondorong

Dalton
I wish i had time but my third piece on Obama was going to be exactly about his relationship with Africa.



http://www.gambia.dk/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=6878

Hi mawdo kons;

happy bilated eid-ul adha. I let you, Karamba and Moe jallow share the horey mbalu.

But certainly, your postings did communicate a clear message that resonates well and set the pace, and inspired outlets for discussing what is for Africans in an Obama presidency. Probably, the tone for this discussion cannot be the usual sugar-coated candies, cos it should be in black and white. In any ways, thanks....and there is time for your part three and more..

Dalton

"There is no god but Allah (SWT); and Muhammad (SAW)is His last messenger." shahadah. Fear & Worship Allah (SWT) Alone! (:
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kondorong



Gambia
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Posted - 13 Dec 2008 :  06:11:50  Show Profile Send kondorong a Private Message
Dalton

The horeh Mbalu is a delicay for me. I usually have mine a week after Eid so you are invited next Tuesday to the feast.

But on a more serious note, the head of the sheep slaughtered at Tobaski has a very important purpose. Ask the Gassamas or Jaitehs. In the Jahanka tribe, the head is cooked with some important things and only eaten at night. Never during the daytime so that no one accidentally joins in the feast.

I know because i have Jahanka inlaws

Its believed to to make one smart.

“When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants and murderers, and for a time, they can seem invincible, but in the end, they always fall. Think of it--always.”
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dbaldeh

USA
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Posted - 13 Dec 2008 :  10:14:02  Show Profile  Visit dbaldeh's Homepage Send dbaldeh a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by kondorong

Dalton

I wish i had time but my third piece on Obama was going to be exactly about his relationship with Africa. I believe in a nutsell that he should be very frank in his dealings and that good governance is a must for any form of aid to that continent.

Respect for rights of citizens should not be compromised. But i think his work is cut out for him. Kenya, his ancestral home, should be in the fore front of political reform.

I do not believe in the doctrine of non interference in internal affairs of nations in the face of abuse of rights, genocide or civil war. Look at Rwanda, Congo, Dafur etc. Powerful nations should speak for the weak. I do also believe that sustainable change must come from within each society. Both must go hand in hand.

The West took us (Africans) to war in Europe to defend atrocities when Africa was infact colonised. We were told that we were defending justice but it just so appears that when we needed justice ourselves, it became politcally incorrect to interfere in internal matters of nations. But the same west, never stood by and watch Kosovo, Albania etc. NATO was everywhere. Perhaps Africa needed to metamorphose into something to deserve something worth dying for by the international community.

I will contribute more later time permitting




Kondorong, you sumarized the moral of the article. You are absolutely right the West took us for granted and they still do. At the same times we Africans took ourselves for granted and never want to take control of our own destiny. We let anyone ride on our backs and we still deny the inevitable - taking control of our destiny.

As you said there is a lot that is owed to Africa and its people, but until we stand tall and demand what rightfully belongs to us, we would not get it. When we organized in our various countries of residents and demand intervention in African conflicts through organizing ourselves and showing our political and economic muscles, no one will pay heed to us or the plight of our people.

I am hoping with pressure on the newly elected leadership and with some sense of organization and movement in the West, leaders will start to listen to us.

I definitely agree that change has to come within, but outside moral and political support will only strengthen those willing to take the brutal leaders on.

Will comment more later, got to catch some sleep...

Baldeh,
"Be the change you want to see in the world" Ghandi
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kondorong



Gambia
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Posted - 14 Dec 2008 :  05:48:58  Show Profile Send kondorong a Private Message
Sleep tight Baldeh

The longest journey must cme to an end one day. But it just appears that the light t the end of the tunnel is infact an incoming train. We may be far away, but i take comfort in the old story of the rabbit and the tortoise's race.

Slow but determined can conquer anything. Slowly slowly catch monkey- as they say in Sierraleone

“When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants and murderers, and for a time, they can seem invincible, but in the end, they always fall. Think of it--always.”
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dbaldeh

USA
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Posted - 14 Dec 2008 :  08:59:46  Show Profile  Visit dbaldeh's Homepage Send dbaldeh a Private Message
Absolutely Kon, I am optimistic too that Africa will one day become the true smiling coast and surprise the world. We may not witness it, but it will happen.

It is just sad that our generation may not be able to make the changes that we dream of for our people. It should be the responsibility of every generation to leave our society better than the way we found it. It is our moral obligation to do our best and create hope for our children.

I hope and pray that it happens during our life time.

Thanks

Baldeh,
"Be the change you want to see in the world" Ghandi
Visit http://www.gainako.com for your daily news and politics
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