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turk



USA
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Posted - 26 Sep 2008 :  03:07:28  Show Profile  Visit turk's Homepage Send turk a Private Message
hz
quote:
The charges then fall under the children's Act I assume.

bodwiki
quote:
I don’t know the children’s Act, sorry.


turk was trying to be helpful these folks.

Formby

I do have a 1 year old baby. I realize what the sexual crime against children is. However, that is itself not a reason to lynch someone. I don't want to be emotional as being emotional in justice only results unfair judgement. I believe in Justice. As we don't have the facts/evidences we can only speculate. Let me repeat. Everyone is innocent until proven guilty. I am choosing not to be overly emotional on this case. I would want keep my cool and decide based on facts/evidences. You sound like you have seen all the facts, evidences and read all the testimonies. To be honest, also I don't have much confidence in justice system in Gambia as they are lacking technology as well. This guy maybe guilty of taking photograph but he may be innocent from the rape. So his punishement must be for his crime not any less not any more.

I also do not appreciate your questioning me like "do you not have children, do you not understand anything about the adult responsibility" which is simply BS.

diaspora! Too many Chiefs and Very Few Indians.

Halifa Salah: PDOIS is however realistic. It is fully aware that the Gambian voters are yet to reach a level of political consciousness that they rely on to vote on the basis of Principles, policies and programmes and practices.
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snuggels

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Posted - 26 Sep 2008 :  03:34:59  Show Profile
when not in reciept of all the facts inevitably we come to the wrong conclusion
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Hiz Princess



United Kingdom
464 Posts

Posted - 26 Sep 2008 :  11:25:37  Show Profile Send Hiz Princess a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Bodwick

I see where your coming from with the “Not On Normal Communal Exercise” meaning, however I’m old school and won’t accept your meaning as it’s far too PC and gives the impression that it’s just another term for going on Rule 43.

I think my explanation is older and generally accepted as you say, as a prison term. Around since the days of Brady and used for crimes that make no sense compared to normal crime i.e. nonsense. Times change as do meanings but this one sticks…

I doubt you get segregated in Gambia more like sharing a small cell with many people. I know it’s hard on Janjangbureh and it’s goto be 20x worse than any in the UK. I won’t be dropping him off any soap that’s for sure.


I don’t know the children’s Act, sorry.




I was told the meaning by a prison officer when I used it to describe a k**bhead so you might be right.
Im sure someone will google it and put us right lol

Well I dont think theres anything wrong with prisons being as you describe pity theyre not here.

pml @ the soap.

I know the Act just not how its applied in Gambia I cant get my head around the law there
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Hiz Princess



United Kingdom
464 Posts

Posted - 26 Sep 2008 :  11:30:43  Show Profile Send Hiz Princess a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Formby

quote:
Originally posted by turk

this is not exactly copy of the children's act, but it is very similar.


Children act 2005. There are also Islamic law in Gambia that relates the children if your marriage is under islam. You need to refer Maliki law, Quran and Sunnah for as well. But this one is the civil law.

http://www.up.ac.za/dspace/bitstream/2263/1159/1/saine_m_1.pdf



This is too irrelevant for words. Hiz has already eastsblished by the links she posted that thet girl was not married under the local clause that can circumnavigate the age of consent. Therefore, any acts committed against this girl, EVEN THE TAKING OF PHOTOGRAPHS, renders the accused guilty.
The more I hear about this, the more I think of that poor 15 year old child getting battered in the head by the weight of assumption. I've half a mind to refer it to Amnesty.





Gambia is in dire need for a Minster for children, this child would have been protected during these proceedings if there were.
Its a crying shame that there's no voice of the child in Gambia.
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gambiabev

United Kingdom
3091 Posts

Posted - 27 Sep 2008 :  08:21:58  Show Profile Send gambiabev a Private Message
UNICEF and Action Aid try very hard to be the childs voice. But a government minister in every country would be great idea...not just Gambia!
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Formby

United Kingdom
246 Posts

Posted - 27 Sep 2008 :  19:36:04  Show Profile Send Formby a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by turk

hz
quote:
The charges then fall under the children's Act I assume.

bodwiki
quote:
I don’t know the children’s Act, sorry.


turk was trying to be helpful these folks.

Formby

I do have a 1 year old baby. I realize what the sexual crime against children is. However, that is itself not a reason to lynch someone. I don't want to be emotional as being emotional in justice only results unfair judgement. I believe in Justice. As we don't have the facts/evidences we can only speculate. Let me repeat. Everyone is innocent until proven guilty. I am choosing not to be overly emotional on this case. I would want keep my cool and decide based on facts/evidences. You sound like you have seen all the facts, evidences and read all the testimonies. To be honest, also I don't have much confidence in justice system in Gambia as they are lacking technology as well. This guy maybe guilty of taking photograph but he may be innocent from the rape. So his punishement must be for his crime not any less not any more.

I also do not appreciate your questioning me like "do you not have children, do you not understand anything about the adult responsibility" which is simply BS.



Not quite the BS of persuading a poor child in a developing country to pose for indecent photos but hey ho, eh.
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turk



USA
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Posted - 28 Sep 2008 :  23:11:16  Show Profile  Visit turk's Homepage Send turk a Private Message
formby

No, not at all, you could have got credit for it until you made this ridiculous BS comments. Law is formal and rational based on that, I make my decisions with disregard for my own emotions, of the feelings of victim, or bantaba. Especially your questioning me sounded like a priest from inquisition. My being sceptic does not mean "I do not have children or have sympaty for children or understand anything about the adult responsibilities" which sounded like you, a mob, advocating extrajudicial punishment.

diaspora! Too many Chiefs and Very Few Indians.

Halifa Salah: PDOIS is however realistic. It is fully aware that the Gambian voters are yet to reach a level of political consciousness that they rely on to vote on the basis of Principles, policies and programmes and practices.
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Hiz Princess



United Kingdom
464 Posts

Posted - 29 Sep 2008 :  12:07:51  Show Profile Send Hiz Princess a Private Message
5 out of 15 West African states do have a Minster for children.

These are separate from Education or Youth Minster's which the Gambia does have.

In fact Ghana were the 1st to ratify the CRC
A year before the U K and five before the USA and have a fantastic child ministry

I agree the UN etc do fantastic work,but i personally feel that a governmental ministry working on laws and legislation in the interest of the child is invaluable.

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Formby

United Kingdom
246 Posts

Posted - 29 Sep 2008 :  23:14:59  Show Profile Send Formby a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by turk

formby

No, not at all, you could have got credit for it until you made this ridiculous BS comments. Law is formal and rational based on that, I make my decisions with disregard for my own emotions, of the feelings of victim, or bantaba. Especially your questioning me sounded like a priest from inquisition. My being sceptic does not mean "I do not have children or have sympaty for children or understand anything about the adult responsibilities" which sounded like you, a mob, advocating extrajudicial punishment.



Calm down now Turk. You've made your point.
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turk



USA
3356 Posts

Posted - 29 Sep 2008 :  23:21:36  Show Profile  Visit turk's Homepage Send turk a Private Message
ok formby. i post here when in the morning. usually when i am very grumpy. wait a minute. i am always grumpy. i am calm down now. Even hz princess and gambiabev can agree and make up, why not us? let's rock and roll.

diaspora! Too many Chiefs and Very Few Indians.

Halifa Salah: PDOIS is however realistic. It is fully aware that the Gambian voters are yet to reach a level of political consciousness that they rely on to vote on the basis of Principles, policies and programmes and practices.

Edited by - turk on 29 Sep 2008 23:23:20
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Formby

United Kingdom
246 Posts

Posted - 29 Sep 2008 :  23:25:13  Show Profile Send Formby a Private Message
We already have. Elephant trunk, remember? lol
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turk



USA
3356 Posts

Posted - 29 Sep 2008 :  23:41:41  Show Profile  Visit turk's Homepage Send turk a Private Message
let me be more ethnic. i will start belly dancing.

diaspora! Too many Chiefs and Very Few Indians.

Halifa Salah: PDOIS is however realistic. It is fully aware that the Gambian voters are yet to reach a level of political consciousness that they rely on to vote on the basis of Principles, policies and programmes and practices.

Edited by - turk on 29 Sep 2008 23:42:05
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Formby

United Kingdom
246 Posts

Posted - 29 Sep 2008 :  23:47:12  Show Profile Send Formby a Private Message
Fair play, I'll stepdance.
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