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mbay
Germany
1007 Posts |
 Posted - 27 Aug 2008 : 12:27:14
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Afrolnews:
A tourist from New Zealand has been arrested on suspicion of engaging in paedophilia activities in The Gambia, police confirmed.
Police said the suspect, Antony Michael Dobson, 61, was arrested at his residence in Yundum, 25 km south of the capital Banjul.
Dobson's suspected Gambian accomplice, Mustapha Drammeh, is also in the police net. Mr. Drammeh was accused of fetching minor girls for Mr. Dobson's exploitative child pornographic business.
A search was mounted at Mr. Dobson's residence resulting to the confiscation of a digital camera and a lap top computer containing pornographic pictures of minor Gambian girls.
"The camera found in his possession is the one he used to take pictures of the naked girls," Commander of Major Crimes Malamin Ceesay told 'GRTS." Supt Malamin Ceesay said the pictures have been downloaded and printed out to assist the police in their investigations.
Mr. Dobson has allegedly admitted shooting pornographic pictures of Gambian minors in and around Banjul.
The Gambia has legislated strict laws on sex crimes targeting minors, but majority of tourists reportedly use money to lure underage girls into child sex or pornography.
Both the Tourism Offences Act of 2003 and Section 127 of the constitution outlawed defilement of a girl under 15 years. The suspects are yet to be charged or brought to justice.
The small country whose economy depends a lot on tourism has been attracting many tourists most of who choose The Gambia for different reasons.
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toubab1020
12312 Posts |
Posted - 27 Aug 2008 : 14:13:51
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I am certain that every reader of this bantaba would condem the dispicable activities of any Tourist,Resident or person in Gambia or anywhere in this world who indulges in such behaviour.
I consider that condemnation is enough and suggest that discussion of this very distateful subject is really not necessary.It is satisfing to note that the Gambia Police Force is aware of these activities and will persue those responsible with vigor.Everyone here is free to speak their minds. |
"Simple is good" & I strongly dislike politics. You cannot defend the indefensible.
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mbay
Germany
1007 Posts |
Posted - 27 Aug 2008 : 15:08:49
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If i post here,is that means i want to discourse?. What a ridiculer sense.
1. As you said, YOUR CONSIDERAIOTN, so take it as you wish.
2. As you may recognized how hard i tries to distance my self from Discoursing, (with many reasons).
I take this Bantaba more as information-centre, and not as you see it "discoursing" centre.
3. Are we here just to discourse?
4. Dont believe that, is only we who are busy with this Bantaba, there are many more who just want follow the topic and learn as I do, and not to mixing with everything.
5. Go and tell this to the victims/their relatives and to the provider of this information.
6. I Remembers, one right down, “simply is good" so stop spotting as you do with your recently posting, and be simply.
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toubab1020
12312 Posts |
Posted - 27 Aug 2008 : 15:52:13
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| OK Away you go you, discuss,as I said,everyone here is free to speak their minds,you appear to just want to fight and be objectionable,if that's you then that's you,you really want to discuss(or use this bantaba as an "information centre) for such an abomination? then off you go. |
"Simple is good" & I strongly dislike politics. You cannot defend the indefensible.
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serenata
Germany
1400 Posts |
Posted - 27 Aug 2008 : 16:09:26
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| It is indeed a relief to know that the officials in Gambia are going to wake up and take action. But it would be best if there was some kind of cooperation with the tourists' home countries. UK, The Netherlands, Belgium, Spain, Germany, USA etc. should give their criminalistic data about paederasts to all countries which are favoured by those criminals. Not a big thing in the times of internet. This could work very well - as long as those data are safe in the destination countries. |
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mbay
Germany
1007 Posts |
Posted - 27 Aug 2008 : 22:12:54
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Great idea Serenata, these people could nuck at any time around world on an ones door, It is indeed frighting.
T.1020: I am certain that every reader of this bantaba would condem the dispicable activities of any Tourist,Resident or person in Gambia or anywhere in this world who indulges in such behaviour.
I have no doubt about that.
But again you said. I consider that condemnation is enough and suggest that discussion of this very distateful subject is really not necessary.
To remind you here, for your another letters.
I found this disturbing report in The Point,http://thepoint.gm/africa/gambia/article/2008/8/22/numuyel-mosque-closed.
Disturbing reports, or else?. So far i read was that the police has intervened here too, then what make this nessersary to bring the report here than forwarding this report over these innocent kids?.
If this is just another personal provocation for me. thats fine, i can live with it.If not then you cannot image how this your baseless views are for the others, particularly those who are victimized or affected , Have you took any consideration over them ?
Then you write about free speech, or free mind for every one, for every one?, please go back to your 1 reaction to this topic and see what you wrote about this topic. "Don't vomits and trying to eat it aging" Or is this another shorting out of personal like and dislike, in this free-mind world?
Fighting: what all this have to do with fighting, even though to your negative and provocative reaction to this topic, to even react back was not about my feeling of personal attacks, but over the real seed of the topic that you tried to sensibly , Which is a earthquake, not just for those who confronted with this horrors but for every sensible person.
If you are not the one who's fighting here,who then? I don't know how long you being hunting me, you could get me some else, definitive. But not here.
If your are not capable to go on with me , then please drop me and go.
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snuggels
960 Posts |
Posted - 27 Aug 2008 : 23:20:02
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"Both the Tourism Offences Act of 2003 and Section 127 of the constitution outlawed defilement of a girl under 15 years."
Does that mean under the law the age of consent is 15 or 16 ? |
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toubab1020
12312 Posts |
Posted - 28 Aug 2008 : 00:15:56
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Mbay,
Please read your own posting again,and ask yourself,did I really write all these words ?
Why did I do that? Your own head will give you the answer.
You know you are free to write what you wish,but you must accept that others are free to write what they wish also ,it is not my intention to provoke anybody.Why on earth should anyone hunt you? What does this phrase mean?
I don't know how long you being hunting me, you could get me some else, definitive. But not here.
If your are not capable to go on with me , then please drop me and go.
Only you know the answer to what you are trying to say I certainly don't, there is no hidden agenda in any of my postings I assure you of that.
I wish you the Peace and calm that you yourself must wish for.
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"Simple is good" & I strongly dislike politics. You cannot defend the indefensible.
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mavaric
Turkmenistan
94 Posts |
Posted - 28 Aug 2008 : 15:34:01
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| I've always wondered why Gambian journalist are shy of using words like 'sex'.. rather substituting it with terms like 'canal knowledge' , 'defilement' etc lol. |
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Hiz Princess
United Kingdom
464 Posts |
Posted - 28 Aug 2008 : 16:26:04
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He was actually Norwegian not from New Zealand.
The reason I point this out is that countries in the EU have the support of the criminal intelligence agency Europol.
This enables EU countries to share information on these kind of criminals, in the UK Registered sex offenders have to declare if they are to engage in foreign travel they can be banned from doing so
(theres talk of withdrawing passports but human rights issues prevails).
However I do not think that Countries outside the EU have access to these databases.
Hopefully with technology the way it is it will only be a matter of time.
Suggles The main legislation is the Tourism Offences Act, 2003, which is wide-ranging and defines a child as anyone under eighteen, although the legal age of consent is sixteen years.
The Tourism Act stipulates that anyone employed in the tourism industry is committing an offence if s/he makes any sexual advances or offers any illegal service or product to a tourist. Such an offence leads to a fine, imprisonment of a maximum of two years and disqualification from tourism related work for ten years. The Act also states that owners, occupiers and managers of property can face a fine and five years in prison if they knowingly allow a child to use their premises for the purposes of sexual activity.
Toubab1020 I appreciate this does not make pleasant reading and I echo your sentiments in your first sentence of your orignal post, but this is obviously a big problem in Gambia . United Nations Convention on the Rights of the Child has documented and researched the abuse of children in Gambia it has found that both tourists and local men sexually abuse children. According to UNICEF (2003) the existence of ‘sugar daddies’ (also locally called ‘Mafia Pas’ or ‘Big Bosses’), i.e. older men having sexual relationships with girls in return for basic needs and sometimes luxury gifts, is common in the Gambia.
I think we all need to be aware that the evil is just not imported on a two week package in the sun. UNICEF (2004) found that there was a bigger threat to children from local men then from tourist.
I don't know how many European visitors know this but if you witness any inappropriate behaviour between a tourist and a child as well as reporting this to the Gambian authority's you can also contact law enforcement in your own country. |
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snuggels
960 Posts |
Posted - 28 Aug 2008 : 16:58:29
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"I think we all need to be aware that the evil is just not imported on a two week package in the sun. UNICEF (2004) found that there was a bigger threat to children from local men then from tourist."
I also have heard that traditionaly that the first sexual encounter a child/young person has is with a family member? |
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serenata
Germany
1400 Posts |
Posted - 28 Aug 2008 : 18:21:52
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| snuggles, I have never heard of that. In Gambia? Absolute nonsense. Maybe paederasts tell this b......t to each other. I could imagine that these miserable rapists know how lowly and ill they are and that they look for any argument which could make them feel less guilty. |
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kiwi
Sweden
662 Posts |
Posted - 28 Aug 2008 : 22:52:25
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| Serenata, I think you are wrong. It is a fact that most sexual abusers are men who have a close relationship to the child, it often is a father, a step father, a grandfather, probably a teacher or a coach, whereas they are not commonly called pedophiles but sexual abusers or rapists. Probably because these person also have “normal” sexual relationships with adults. The common excuse used by pedophiles is “the child liked it, I didn´t do any harm”. |
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njucks
Gambia
1131 Posts |
Posted - 29 Aug 2008 : 10:23:55
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quote:
Originally posted by toubab1020
I consider that condemnation is enough and suggest that discussion of this very distateful subject is really not necessary.
Mbay you see how easily patronising comments can cause a distraction. nobody has the right to say what can or cannot be discussed here.thats just silly!
Snuggels, i agree with Serenata that there is no evidence for that and its nonsense. Whilst one can accept that early marriage is a problem of society, paedophilia is not society's fault. thats nonesense. i dont think your last comments are true. there is no evidence for it.
i would suggest that the Police forge close parthnership with european police forces who have extensive databases on these sick people and that this list is maintained at all ports of entry.
as a country we shold rethink our whole approach to single old males resident in the country. there was one living in my neighbourhood who was caught, fined and deported earlier this year. they should also set a good example before deporting them, catch one and fine/sentence them for a long time with hard labour. it will deter others. |
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toubab1020
12312 Posts |
Posted - 29 Aug 2008 : 11:03:53
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You only took the bit you wanted, what about the bit you didn't want of my posting which read, "Everyone here is free to speak their minds."  no that was patronising too I suppose |
"Simple is good" & I strongly dislike politics. You cannot defend the indefensible.
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snuggels
960 Posts |
Posted - 29 Aug 2008 : 11:38:18
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NJUCKS-SERENATA
"Snuggels, i agree with Serenata that there is no evidence for that and its nonsense. Whilst one can accept that early marriage is a problem of society, paedophilia is not society's fault. thats nonesense. i dont think your last comments are true. there is no evidence for it."
I dont think it is nonsence do you have evidence its not true.
Because from what I have read from articals in the newspapers
it is true
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