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MADIBA
United Kingdom
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 Posted - 12 Jul 2008 : 01:18:10
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Konds the girl was attending Marina high and not primary school.
On the new education policy. I think we must allow them time to get it right. Baboucarr Bouy and team are doing their very best. Change in itself is a gradual process.
Finally who is living in denial? certainly not Baldeh-Bolong |
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kondorong
Gambia
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Posted - 12 Jul 2008 : 04:02:54
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Originally posted by MADIBA
Konds the girl was attending Marina high and not primary school.
On the new education policy. I think we must allow them time to get it right. Baboucarr Bouy and team are doing their very best. Change in itself is a gradual process.
Finally who is living in denial? certainly not Baldeh-Bolong
"Gradualism leads to doing nothingsm, which leads to stand stillsm.." Martin Luther King
Whatdo we want. 43 years of nationhood and we need gradualism. Buoy is a fine fellow but i will stick out my neck that his children are not in the public schools he is managing.
POLITIKI NAHATEH (Halifa Sallah)
May be Dalton should weigh in here. |
“When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants and murderers, and for a time, they can seem invincible, but in the end, they always fall. Think of it--always.” |
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Dalton1
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Posted - 12 Jul 2008 : 05:23:10
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Mawdo Kons,
Bro Kani's poem is really touching and its subject matter very sensitive and factual. Frankly speaking, the mention of Soweto is very touching. I am sure it relates to those familiar with that word -soweto zones. The matter discused by the author is no exaggeration at all.
In as much as we entertain tourism which contribute to our nation's economy, we shouldn't deny citizens of their rights to access the beaches. That to me is wrong and unacceptable. The relationship should be mutual. The criminals doing the acts are themselves corrupt and pollutants.
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Mawdo Kons; Accepting reality will help us move forward. That should be basis for nation wide onslaught to improve standards. Denial is a recipe of the very quagmire that has gripped us for long.
For goodness sake, You said it all. I believe being in denial of the existing situation is a serious matter. I totally concur with the above quote of yours.
G'nite elder
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"There is no god but Allah (SWT); and Muhammad (SAW)is His last messenger." shahadah. Fear & Worship Allah (SWT) Alone! (:
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MADIBA
United Kingdom
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Posted - 12 Jul 2008 : 10:44:41
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Konds you see no matter how hard you try to throw dust around, you cn't justify bumsterism.
For heavensake, where has our national pride gone to?
Why forcefully beg people? Why force your friendship on people?
True many economies are undergoing recession around the world, drinking attaya from sunrise to sunset isnt the solution either.
If we Gambians want Beds, dress, van drivers, electricals, car repairs, building, etc we still have to turn to non-Gambians. We are doomed then. There was this youngman whose profile in read in the papers before , in Gunjur. This boy paid his school fees entirely by smoking fish at the Gunjur beach and selling them. After graduating , he went back to the same job. It sad to see the ice plants along the coast being utilized by non-Gambians. These projects cost the Gambia Gov't and Gambian alot of mney just for them to benefit non-Gambians. The fisheries industry is 95% foreign controlled.
So it is the bad education policy that is responsible for the massive drop out who are only good at following tourists?
Lets face up to the issue and stop the blame game. |
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ricgrey
United Kingdom
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Posted - 12 Jul 2008 : 14:00:20
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WOW..!! The Gambia is becoming like UK..
The UK Government are sending their Children to Private Schools and Colleges, Uni's etc..
A lot of Jobs in UK are being taken by Non UK residents.
The prices of Food, Fuel etc., have increased substantially.
55 Dalasi a Litre for Gas Oil. £1.34 +
An 80% increase in Vegetable Oil, from 20.5 Dalasi to 36.9 £5.00 to £9.00
Madiba and Kondorong, you are both on the same side, you want to see a better Gambia.
I'm afraid you are doing the Attaya thing, Talking about things, not doing them.
Get together, the next time you are both in The Gambia, Get something going that will Employ Gambians..
There are People over there that want to Work.
There are People over there that don't want to Work.
So Help the ones that Want and Need Jobs.
Just let the others do their own thing, they will eventually fall by the wayside,
by Goverment intervention, or Tourists rejection..
Rich...
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kondorong
Gambia
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Posted - 14 Jul 2008 : 23:00:35
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Madiba
I am not justifying Bumpsters should continue to "harass" tourist. Far from that. I am only trying to explain the context. That you cannot seperate our education policy and job creation and problems of Bumpsters from each other.
We need to make our education relevant and of quality. Not just access.
ricgrey
I would live to invite Madiba under the mango tree in Yoro Bawol if he wishes. Just a warning that we do not have luxury here. May be he could help volunteer as a Teacher for one day a week or provide weekend free tutorials. |
“When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants and murderers, and for a time, they can seem invincible, but in the end, they always fall. Think of it--always.” |
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njucks
Gambia
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Posted - 15 Jul 2008 : 12:01:44
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Originally posted by MADIBA
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If we Gambians want Beds, dress, van drivers, electricals, car repairs, building, etc we still have to turn to non-Gambians. ... There was this youngman whose profile in read in the papers before , in Gunjur. This boy paid his school fees entirely by smoking fish at the Gunjur beach and selling them. After graduating , he went back to the same job.
Madiba, thats a valid point. personally my observation especially witht he youths is that there is a lot of effort from the government for practical skill training/development. some youths are even given starting equipment/+ capital.
but the problem is also that the job market is not restricted? for example, a young gambian boy can go to GTTI and study to be an electrician,plumber,mason, carpenter then when he graduates with practical skills he has to compete with an uneducated foreigner (who hasnt invested in any education) who will do the same job.
it defeats the purpose of getting the qualification in the first place. in the UK, etc you can just do the job of an electrican, plumber without doing some local tests to guage your knowledge of relevant standards.
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toubab1020
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Posted - 15 Jul 2008 : 12:09:17
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The same in the UK except we have polish plumbers your negative comments apply to them,our reason is that local plumbers have got too greedy so they are unaffordable so people take foreigners (opps......... no no poland is in the EU!!! so they are not foreign?)
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"Simple is good" & I strongly dislike politics. You cannot defend the indefensible.
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MADIBA
United Kingdom
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Posted - 15 Jul 2008 : 14:12:08
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Great observations Njucks and Toubab.
Njucks,
I think if the gov't is putting in all the money without a legal framework in place to enhance the chances of local expertise , it then as good as pouring water into a basket. If i read properly in one of the papers, Jammeh was reminding the investors that they(gov't) are making concessions to them(entrepreneur) but amongst the things they should always respect is the desire to employ as many Gambians(qualified) as possible.
Toubab,
The issue of basic economics also comes into play here. If the non-Gambian is providing a better quality for less in the informal sector, then their Gambian counterparts would have to measure up or lose the market. |
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toubab1020
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Posted - 15 Jul 2008 : 14:23:40
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Its all getting a little much for me,I feel that I am just commenting on the little I glean from what is in the public domain about the Gambia which is very limited.
Big enquiring operators( (can't think of another phrase ) don't want to know about Gambia NO MONEY in it for them ,we are left in the dark with no light because we cannot find out what is actually happening,those who know are keeping quiet (for financial reasons or other reasons (?)).
Therefore rumor control takes over.
H.E. is the only one who knows and he certainly won't turn on the light.
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"Simple is good" & I strongly dislike politics. You cannot defend the indefensible.
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MADIBA
United Kingdom
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Posted - 15 Jul 2008 : 17:49:41
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Originally posted by kondorong
Madiba
ricgrey
I would live to invite Madiba under the mango tree in Yoro Bawol if he wishes. Just a warning that we do not have luxury here. May be he could help volunteer as a Teacher for one day a week or provide weekend free tutorials.
Konds,
Once a teacher always a teacher. I hope to return oneday soon to teaching in another form. Not necesarily classroom teaching. Luxury? I love the country side. Brings me closer to my roots |
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kondorong
Gambia
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Posted - 16 Jul 2008 : 21:47:15
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Madiba
I like hunting rabbits. We owned a dog called "Soli", very fast and daring. (FELLEH BAYOH) |
“When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants and murderers, and for a time, they can seem invincible, but in the end, they always fall. Think of it--always.” |
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kaanibaa
United Kingdom
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Posted - 17 Jul 2008 : 01:56:38
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| Dear Kondorong ; take care lest you get jumped on for cruelty to animals. Killing rabbits using dogs seems to have been a nice sport in the golden old days .hum ! |
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kondorong
Gambia
4380 Posts |
Posted - 18 Jul 2008 : 18:46:37
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Kaaniba
I believe we are at the top of the food chain and as such we have to survive. Well i think the problem is people have forgotten who we are as humans and where we are in the food chain continium.
I know that fox hunting is a huge problem in England these. A hot political potato.But the difference is i eat my rabbits.
But i also heard that somewher in Europe (in one of the Scandinavian countries), its that a offence for cruelty to trees. So vegetarians be on the watch out for cruelty to trees by harvesting the fruits. The fruits are the children of trees and therefore harvesting is cruel and degrading to trees.
Very soon it will be an offence to eat at all. So allow me to store some fat befoe the "seven lean Years" (Bible)
I also understand that such right defenders are mostly is societies of plenty, but for some of us trying to eek-out a living, hunting is a means of survival and death and so it will be a bunch of bologny.
I like my red meat, and those who like their veggies, i respect that too. But one's right to not eat meat should not encroach on my desire to be a carnivore. |
“When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants and murderers, and for a time, they can seem invincible, but in the end, they always fall. Think of it--always.” |
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kondorong
Gambia
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Posted - 18 Jul 2008 : 19:04:49
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Kaaniba
I just noticed that you are now an eagle. What an irony regarding your posting above. I gues eagles are vegetarians too.
The bird i think is more of a falcon. Either way i cant go wrong. Its like the Queen inquiring whether you want to have dinner with her at the castle or the Palace. Either way, you just cant go wrong |
“When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants and murderers, and for a time, they can seem invincible, but in the end, they always fall. Think of it--always.” |
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