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Alhassan
Sweden
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 Posted - 28 Aug 2007 : 15:04:46
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Originally posted by MeMe
All very noble, Twinkly, but the bottom line in your story is that the Gambian men are merely using European women to "complete a mission" ..... hmmmmmm ... and then you class him as a "good man"- can't see anything to honour or respect there!
MeMe,
Yes, this can be true. |
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Sibo
Denmark
231 Posts |
Posted - 28 Aug 2007 : 15:20:32
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MeMe
Just because you have not seen it does not mean that it is not out there. Lets stop demonising the African man and give the European woman her share of the deal too |
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serenata
Germany
1400 Posts |
Posted - 28 Aug 2007 : 16:12:33
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I propose that nobody is demonized. I repeat: For me the situation is a result of perverted politics, not a result of the European woman's or the African man's bad character (after all, if those two were really as wicked as is said here, they deserved each other... ).
Nonetheless I am a bit pessimistic about human nature. Give people the opportunity to abuse each other and they will do it (--> Milgram Experiment, Stanford-Prison-Experiment, etc.). |
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twinkly
United Kingdom
190 Posts |
Posted - 28 Aug 2007 : 16:30:17
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MeMe I am simply trying to answer Babylons question.
There are as many stories and possibilities as there are people.Every story is different.
I wonder what your business is with Gambian men if they are all so bad?
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All very noble, Twinkly, but the bottom line in your story is that the Gambian men are merely using European women to "complete a mission" ..... hmmmmmm ... and then you class him as a "good man"- can't see anything to honour or respect there!
The point I'm trying to bring across is that most men do not want to be nasty to the woman, but there's only so much sh... a person can take.Just like you have your general opinion about Gambian men, they have one about us.And if after every experience with a woman it ends up the same way, then I can understand that the respect for such women decreases......
Everywhere there are good and not so good people.Even if you pick up a man from the beach, I'm sure he is not out to treat you badly.If you would see WHY he wants a realtionship with you, then you would be more sympathetic.But if you insist that he is interested in you because you are such a nice person and not after a ticket to Europe then you are simply naive.
Maybe a first-timer could fall for that trap.But especially not an older woman who has experience in life.I just can't understand.
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MeMe
United Kingdom
541 Posts |
Posted - 28 Aug 2007 : 17:00:02
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I thought I'd said my piece here and wasn't going to add anything more but when my words get twisted .... Twinkly, where did I write that "all Gambian men are bad"??? Your statement "If you would see WHY he wants a realtionship with you, then you would be more sympathetic" is certainly not justification for using people!
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gambiabev
United Kingdom
3091 Posts |
Posted - 28 Aug 2007 : 17:36:13
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Twinkly. I dont hate men or think all men are bad. I like men, I like mens company, especially men who treat me as an equal and don't feel threatened by me. I love intelligent, thoughtful, kind men. I like men that are good fathers, who put their children first.
If ever I live with someone or (even more unlikely) marry someone I want to be their equal partner. I wonder if Kayatta has a single older brother?!
Twinkly I also want someone who wants to be with me just because they love me and want to be in my company. In return I would want to be with them. SIMPLE. 
Nothing to do with religion, race, money , visas, families etc.... Not part of a game plan.
I don't need anything from a man apart from good company, fun and love. I am an independent women.  |
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twinkly
United Kingdom
190 Posts |
Posted - 29 Aug 2007 : 10:57:44
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Originally posted by gambiabev
Twinkly. I dont hate men or think all men are bad. I like men, I like mens company, especially men who treat me as an equal and don't feel threatened by me. I love intelligent, thoughtful, kind men. I like men that are good fathers, who put their children first.
If ever I live with someone or (even more unlikely) marry someone I want to be their equal partner.
So why do you have to keep telling everybody that you want a man that has all these qualities?
Because you believe that men don't have these qualities in the first place.
You assume that every man is trying to be above the woman.Trying to control her and use her.
In the real world most men ARE treating a woman with respect and have all these qualities, just like the women do,what more do you want?Nobody ever said that women are not equal, this is something in your head.
Because of women like you, men are disadvantaged nowadays, have LESS rights than a woman.....it's always the bad man, when it comes to divorces, who mostly has the upper hand?
Let's try and stick to the subject, you feminist views are boring, repetitive and discriminating.......sorry
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jambo
3300 Posts |
Posted - 29 Aug 2007 : 13:29:30
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Babylon, can i take this back to the beginning, the question is african man marrying white woman.
what happens when african man marries black woman, will the colour make any difference.
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LEMON TIME
Afghanistan
1295 Posts |
Posted - 29 Aug 2007 : 18:39:22
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| Jambo let the Fire burn.This topic is hotting up and am loving it.I just cant let my partner wear the trousers in mine,ok ill give her all the respect and all these malaky but hey am the head of the House.Gambian men very proud of being the King in our Castle,well i am. |
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gambiabev
United Kingdom
3091 Posts |
Posted - 29 Aug 2007 : 23:39:50
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| Lemon time, what you posted is just what I suspected. This went out in 1950s UK. Well in theory it did. SOme men still believe that way! They tend to be divorced! |
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Santanfara
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Posted - 30 Aug 2007 : 11:44:58
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Originally posted by LEMON TIME
Jambo let the Fire burn.This topic is hotting up and am loving it.I just cant let my partner wear the trousers in mine,ok ill give her all the respect and all these malaky but hey am the head of the House.Gambian men very proud of being the King in our Castle,well i am.
king lemon ,have the holy water settle down now. my wife is more like the interrior minister .we are equal partners but we have different roles. |
Surah- Ar-Rum 30-22
"And among His signs is the creation of heavens and the earth, and the difference of your languages and colours. verily, in that are indeed signs for men of sound knowledge." Qu'ran
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LEMON TIME
Afghanistan
1295 Posts |
Posted - 30 Aug 2007 : 12:49:05
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| OH bless your hearts guys,Gambiabev the only reason some OLD white women Go for Gambian toy boys is that they have Power(money)over the poor guys. |
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LEMON TIME
Afghanistan
1295 Posts |
Posted - 30 Aug 2007 : 12:57:23
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| How would you feel that your 21years old son marrying a 50year old woman From upnorth aye.See if you can have any 21 old white boy around your town and see. |
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Babylon
Sweden
691 Posts |
Posted - 30 Aug 2007 : 13:13:50
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Ok, so if the main reason for divorcing white women due to differences and to marry black women because of having the same culture and black women stay in the traditional women role (according to Twinkly) then is that a quarantee to keep the marriage alive?
And another question: do african women stay in the traditional women roles when they live in europe?
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Sibo
Denmark
231 Posts |
Posted - 30 Aug 2007 : 16:31:43
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It is very difficult for gambian women in europe to stay in traditional women role according to the gambian culture.
My reason is that women have the same kind of jobs like men and pay the bills like men so I think they have an expectation of the man helping them around the house when they are helping the man pay the bills. And I do not thinks it is fair for a man expection the woman to go out and work, pay the bills and the same time be a traditional gambian woman. I have my perants as an example: Both my mom and dad are working fulltime and share the bills and my dad cooks and helps with cleaning and taking care of the kids, we all help around. They do not expect each other to do these things, but they do it to help each other and make things easy for each other. It is all about understading |
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