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Karamba
United Kingdom
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 Posted - 14 Jun 2007 : 13:39:42
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Female Genital Mutilation - FGM in the given context as mostly relayed over here and elsewhere is something worth reviewing. Those who coiled up the term tend to perceive the traditional practice in a rather babaric perspective. Those who practice Female Cirmcumcision have deep love and care for their young ones; we know it or not. It is unfortunate that we prefer terms over people who may not have the bargaining strength or the balanced platform to argue their case. Imam Fatty, according the Daily Observer, refused to accept the term FGM. He argued that the practice is not MUTILATION. That is a perception by itself. Elsewhere in Africa, other traditional practices are prevalent. There are cultures where tribal marks are symbol of pride and belonging. The pasting of hot metal on someone's skin to mark the tribal identity is something else closer to harmful practice. But will they accept anyone calling it self harm? In Senegambia region, women indulge in lip tatoos. The process takes several hours and real blood oozing. When finished and healed, the dark mark becomes a permanent symbol of beauty. These are done by matured women across the tribal divide. They use steel needles or wild thorns. Is that also MUTILATION? When issues like this are discussed, it makes greater sense to take account of the people concerned and their true views sought. If Imam Fatty says he does not admit MUTILATION, who is daring enough to impose that guilt? Let us be free of prejudice and fairly examine situations objectively. In some parts of the world, snakes are scary creatures. In other parts, snakes make delicious meals. There is always a world of diversity. |
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mansasulu
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Posted - 14 Jun 2007 : 15:13:34
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| Karamba, I cannot agree with you more. You have put things in a proper context. Succintly, and nicely! |
"...Verily, in the remembrance of Allâh do hearts find rest..." Sura Al-Rad (Chapter 13, Verse 28)
...Gambian by birth, Muslim by the grace of Allah... |
Edited by - mansasulu on 14 Jun 2007 15:14:41 |
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kobo
United Kingdom
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kobo
United Kingdom
7765 Posts |
Posted - 16 Jun 2007 : 11:59:52
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Female circumsicion is more prevalent in one of our major tribes but not commonly practice or is exceptional by "WOLLOF". Historically there were main tribes in the Gambia. Mandingo, Fula, Wollof, Jola & Serer.
More research paper 1 GAMCOTRAP leaflet under http://www.encyclopedia.com/doc/1G1-125490114.html
Its important to appreciate THE RIGHTS OF THE VICTIM of circumsition as some undergo the therapy at a very tender age. As times are changing and modernisation is helping us I would endorse critical analysis of the issue of FGM. However my beloved child ROHEYA would not be subjected to the knife as now am aware that Islam does not totally endorsed it, I need to respect the rights of the child, avoid abuse and brainwashing and other crude traditions. On the otherhand Male circumcision is more healthy (cleanliness), sexual, beautiful and endorsed by my religion.
Furthermore there are some confusion on ISLAM, MUSLIMS & THE QUARAN (KORAN!).
ISLAM is a religion and way of life: To belief in "ALLAH" as the only one and only true God, to belief in all other true Prophets (including Abraham, Moses, Essa or Jesus Christ) and
to follow the footsteps of Prophet Muhamad (s.a.w).
MUSLIMS are considered believers of Islam but are not holy and paradise is not for them only as some muslims have dark sides also and one is easily influenced or dis-orientated by materialism, politics and other temptations to follow evil rather than good. The stakes are always high 50:50 to gain salvation and ticket to enter paradise or heaven with the good deeds and sympathy of Allah; The Almighty.
QURAN is the revelations compiled as a SOURCE OF KNOWLEDGE,The MAIN BOOK OF KNOWLEDGE for interpretation, invoke the doctrines, authenticated or supported by "HADITH"or sayings of the holy Prophet Muhamad (s.a.w) and application (where necessary and for the daily lifes of muslims).
Thanks! [b]"ONLY ALLAH KNOWS!"
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kobo
United Kingdom
7765 Posts |
Posted - 19 Jun 2007 : 15:50:34
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quote:
Originally posted by kobo
Female circumsicion is more prevalent in one of our major tribes but not commonly practice or is exceptional by "WOLLOF". Historically there were main tribes in the Gambia. Mandingo, Fula, Wollof, Jola & Serer.
Rejoiner and Updated Facts on Gambia (DEMOGRAPHICS): topic under http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Gambia#Demographics
QUOTED FROM ABOVE:
"Main article: Demographics of The Gambia
A wide variety of ethnic groups live in The Gambia with a minimum of intertribal friction, each preserving its own language and traditions. The Mandinka tribe is the largest, followed by the Fula, Wolof, Jola, and . The approximately 3,500 non-African residents include Europeans and families of Lebanese origin (roughly 0.23% of the total population).
Muslims constitute more than 90% of the population. Christians of different denominations account for most of the remainder. Gambians officially observe the holidays of both religions and practice religious tolerance.
More than 63% of Gambians live in rural villages (1993 census), although more and more young people come to the capital in search of work and education. Provisional figures from the 2003 census show that the gap between the urban and rural populations is narrowing as more areas are declared urban. While urban migration, development projects, and modernization are bringing more Gambians into contact with Western habits and values, the traditional emphasis on the extended family, as well as indigenous forms of dress and celebration, remain integral parts of everyday life.]"
SORRY TO THE SERREHULE community! That shows am not a proper Gambian
Also under above; GAMCOTRAP LEAFLET 1:A woman's rite link http://www.encyclopedia.com/doc/1G1-125490114.html["Around 80 per cent of girls in the Gambia undergo this procedure. Seven of the nine major ethnic groups practise female genital mutilation (FGM) at ages from shortly after birth until 18 years old"].
QUOTED FROM GAMCOTRAP LEAFLET ABOVE:
"Let me try seven of the nine tribes mentioned as follows: Mandinka, Fula, Wollof, Joala, Serrehule, Serere, Manjago or Karoninke. But I don't know about other two tribes to make it NINE??? Can someone help us please " |
Edited by - kobo on 19 Jun 2007 18:14:37 |
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mbay
Germany
1007 Posts |
Posted - 19 Jun 2007 : 17:32:53
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SORRY TO THE SERREHULE community! That shows am not a proper Gambian
Never mind |
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kobo
United Kingdom
7765 Posts |
Posted - 19 Jun 2007 : 18:15:59
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Originally posted by mbay
SORRY TO THE SERREHULE community! That shows am not a proper Gambian
Never mind
I do mind about knowing all the NINE TRIBES of The Gambia. Can anyone help, please |
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mbay
Germany
1007 Posts |
Posted - 20 Jun 2007 : 15:00:04
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Am not too far in this case but my believe is that we are
Fulubeh-Diola-Mandiaku-Manlikeh-Serakhouleh- Serer and Wolof.
is there more Mr Kon |
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Sister Omega
United Kingdom
2085 Posts |
Posted - 24 Jun 2007 : 20:20:06
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What about the Aku's and Manjako's, Mbay?
Peace
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Peace
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Edited by - Sister Omega on 24 Jun 2007 20:20:29 |
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mbay
Germany
1007 Posts |
Posted - 25 Jun 2007 : 11:04:59
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SIS:
A Fatal mistake from me  you see am not much better than Kobo. tanks for for adding the in.
little lucky for me that i put at the end of my phrase.
Sorry Mln +. |
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jambo
3300 Posts |
Posted - 25 Jun 2007 : 11:19:00
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| so how many tribes make up gambia |
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Alhassan
Sweden
813 Posts |
Posted - 26 Jun 2007 : 15:59:25
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quote:
Originally posted by Karamba
Female Genital Mutilation - FGM in the given context as mostly relayed over here and elsewhere is something worth reviewing. Those who coiled up the term tend to perceive the traditional practice in a rather babaric perspective. Those who practice Female Cirmcumcision have deep love and care for their young ones; we know it or not. It is unfortunate that we prefer terms over people who may not have the bargaining strength or the balanced platform to argue their case. Imam Fatty, according the Daily Observer, refused to accept the term FGM. He argued that the practice is not MUTILATION. That is a perception by itself. Elsewhere in Africa, other traditional practices are prevalent. There are cultures where tribal marks are symbol of pride and belonging. The pasting of hot metal on someone's skin to mark the tribal identity is something else closer to harmful practice. But will they accept anyone calling it self harm? In Senegambia region, women indulge in lip tatoos. The process takes several hours and real blood oozing. When finished and healed, the dark mark becomes a permanent symbol of beauty. These are done by matured women across the tribal divide. They use steel needles or wild thorns. Is that also MUTILATION? When issues like this are discussed, it makes greater sense to take account of the people concerned and their true views sought. If Imam Fatty says he does not admit MUTILATION, who is daring enough to impose that guilt? Let us be free of prejudice and fairly examine situations objectively. In some parts of the world, snakes are scary creatures. In other parts, snakes make delicious meals. There is always a world of diversity.
Karamba,
Tribal marking is different from FMG. What is the harm done by tribal marks? Moreover FMG does more harm to the women, both during mens and when in labour. Are there not any midwives on the forum to come up with the facts? How many nurses are no the forum? |
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Sibo
Denmark
231 Posts |
Posted - 27 Jun 2007 : 14:55:57
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these are the tribes I remember in Gambia:
Mandingo, fula, wollof, jola, sarrehule, serrer, aku, manjago, karoningo |
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serenata
Germany
1400 Posts |
Posted - 27 Jun 2007 : 15:28:12
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Originally posted by Alhassan Are there not any midwives on the forum to come up with the facts? How many nurses are no the forum?
Alhassan, I think our expert is Sab; her contributions to this topic are worth reading. |
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mbay
Germany
1007 Posts |
Posted - 28 Jun 2007 : 10:13:13
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Pls would you or an one help me out here, who are karoningo. am very interested to know about them
Thanks.
quote:
Originally posted by Sibo
these are the tribes I remember in Gambia:
Mandingo, fula, wollof, jola, sarrehule, serrer, aku, manjago, karoningo
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