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Cornelius
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 Posted - 04 Feb 2007 : 01:28:38
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Originally posted by Dr Thomas
Sometimes facts are alarmist cornelius
I am pleased to read your expertise on the subject.
I didn't realise you had a medical qualification. not that this matters as to how the people surrounding will act on your suggestions
Dr.Thomas,
I appreciate the seriousness of your concern.
Years ago the seriousness of AIDS was brought to our attention by a special adviser to Lanasana Conte, someone ( a good friend) who apart from having the whole range of medical (and herbal) possibilities at his fingertips is also very knowledgeable about the sociology and anthropology of the problem.......and has worked in Guinea and elsewhere.
I will phone him tomorrow and request him to get in touch with the Gambian president with a view to helping sort out the precarious situation and handling the PR.
I have also met doctors who have worked in various parts of Africa ( Congo, Zambia, other African countries)
http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=AIDS+In+the+Gambia&btnG=Google+Search&meta=
There are medical degrees and there are medical degrees. Yours is just one.
There are even medical professors and medical professors.
As a responsible African, I have been following the AIDS story since 1985.
Here in Sweden, where research is progressing steadily and there have been optimistic prognosis, we have people like Dr. Sven Britton:
http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=%22Dr.+Sven+Britton%22&btnG=Search&meta=
DR Sven Britton on HIV and AIDS:
http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=Dr.+Sven+Britton+on+HIV+%2FAIDS&meta=
When the news just broke I posted this
http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=Dr.+Peter+Duesberg&btnG=Search&meta=
Of course the first act of all responsible governments is to promote safeguards and to adopt preventive measures. If Dr. Thomas were not here, even without a medical degree, we would still know how important it is to take all possible precautions and to avoid the kind of behavior that would further endanger the species.
Before a cure was announced these precautionary measures have been in place and after the cure was announced, no one should relax into a false sense of security that the cure is now available and everybody is free to jump on everybody and to hell with the consequences because Dr. Jammeh is there to cure everybody.
It is this false sense of security or belief in fatalism that is to be avoided even when a cure has been tested, verified and is available to all at no expense whatsoever.
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Cornelius
Sweden
1051 Posts |
Posted - 04 Feb 2007 : 01:28:38
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quote:
Originally posted by Dr Thomas
Sometimes facts are alarmist cornelius
I am pleased to read your expertise on the subject.
I didn't realise you had a medical qualification. not that this matters as to how the people surrounding will act on your suggestions
Dr.Thomas,
I appreciate the seriousness of your concern.
Years ago the seriousness of AIDS was brought to our attention by a special adviser to Lanasana Conte, someone ( a good friend) who apart from having the whole range of medical (and herbal) possibilities at his fingertips is also very knowledgeable about the sociology and anthropology of the problem.......and has worked in Guinea and elsewhere.
I will phone him tomorrow and request him to get in touch with the Gambian president with a view to helping sort out the precarious situation and handling the PR.
I have also met doctors who have worked in various parts of Africa ( Congo, Zambia, other African countries)
http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=AIDS+In+the+Gambia&btnG=Google+Search&meta=
There are medical degrees and there are medical degrees. Yours is just one.
There are even medical professors and medical professors.
As a responsible African, I have been following the AIDS story since 1985.
Here in Sweden, where research is progressing steadily and there have been optimistic prognosis, we have people like Dr. Sven Britton:
http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=%22Dr.+Sven+Britton%22&btnG=Search&meta=
DR Sven Britton on HIV and AIDS:
http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=Dr.+Sven+Britton+on+HIV+%2FAIDS&meta=
When the news just broke I posted this
http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=Dr.+Peter+Duesberg&btnG=Search&meta=
Of course the first act of all responsible governments is to promote safeguards and to adopt preventive measures. If Dr. Thomas were not here, even without a medical degree, we would still know how important it is to take all possible precautions and to avoid the kind of behavior that would further endanger the species.
Before a cure was announced these precautionary measures have been in place and after the cure was announced, no one should relax into a false sense of security that the cure is now available and everybody is free to jump on everybody and to hell with the consequences because Dr. Jammeh is there to cure everybody.
It is this false sense of security or belief in fatalism that is to be avoided even when a cure has been tested, verified and is available to all at no expense whatsoever.
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sab
United Kingdom
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Posted - 04 Feb 2007 : 02:03:55
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AIDS dementia; The HIV virus can pass the blood-brain barrier & damage the brain. The effect will depend on the part of the brain affected.
Symptoms could be strange unusual behaviour and confusion.
I believe it's all about Voluntary Counselling & testing (VCT) that comes within HARRP - HIV/AIDS Rapid Response Project that money has been allocated too.
Also there is the Toskani Pharmaceutical Company that should have had it foundation stone laid by now in the Western Region to consider and should be in full scale operation and production by mid 2007.
The world must wait to see if there is a production at this plant of 'the Yahya cure'.
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sab
United Kingdom
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Posted - 04 Feb 2007 : 02:03:55
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AIDS dementia; The HIV virus can pass the blood-brain barrier & damage the brain. The effect will depend on the part of the brain affected.
Symptoms could be strange unusual behaviour and confusion.
I believe it's all about Voluntary Counselling & testing (VCT) that comes within HARRP - HIV/AIDS Rapid Response Project that money has been allocated too.
Also there is the Toskani Pharmaceutical Company that should have had it foundation stone laid by now in the Western Region to consider and should be in full scale operation and production by mid 2007.
The world must wait to see if there is a production at this plant of 'the Yahya cure'.
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sab
United Kingdom
912 Posts |
Posted - 04 Feb 2007 : 02:18:29
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I use to follow all medical data from WHO for The Gambia, but some past years showed the data for HIV/AID's as N/A.
Now figures recently shown in reports or made in speeches are ambiguous -
From The Gambia Draft 2005 - National Sentinel SurveilanceWhilst the HIV/AIDS prevalence in The Gambia is categorised as low, at 2.1% for HIV1 and 0.8% for HIV2 among women 15-49 years old attending antenatal clinic. [b] Just women at Anti-natal clinc?
There is limited data on prevalence among high-risk groups, including sex workers who had a prevalence of 14% for HIV1 in 1993 and 28% in 1999.
Furthermore, lack of data on the prevalence of HIV in other key groups such as uniformed personnel, long distance truck drivers, fisher folks, etc. may mask the true extent of HIV infection rates in the country
In a speech made at the United Nationas General Ass. The Health Secretary re-iterated the figures, but failed to mention that this figure was acquired only through women at the nati-natal clinic.
I have a feeling that around the corner is a very big wake up shock on the true figure of HIV/AID's in The Gambia, especially when you take a closer look at the STI figures.
http://data.unaids.org/pub/Report/2006/2006_country_progress_report_gambia_en.pdf
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sab
United Kingdom
912 Posts |
Posted - 04 Feb 2007 : 02:18:29
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I use to follow all medical data from WHO for The Gambia, but some past years showed the data for HIV/AID's as N/A.
Now figures recently shown in reports or made in speeches are ambiguous -
From The Gambia Draft 2005 - National Sentinel SurveilanceWhilst the HIV/AIDS prevalence in The Gambia is categorised as low, at 2.1% for HIV1 and 0.8% for HIV2 among women 15-49 years old attending antenatal clinic. [b] Just women at Anti-natal clinc?
There is limited data on prevalence among high-risk groups, including sex workers who had a prevalence of 14% for HIV1 in 1993 and 28% in 1999.
Furthermore, lack of data on the prevalence of HIV in other key groups such as uniformed personnel, long distance truck drivers, fisher folks, etc. may mask the true extent of HIV infection rates in the country
In a speech made at the United Nationas General Ass. The Health Secretary re-iterated the figures, but failed to mention that this figure was acquired only through women at the nati-natal clinic.
I have a feeling that around the corner is a very big wake up shock on the true figure of HIV/AID's in The Gambia, especially when you take a closer look at the STI figures.
http://data.unaids.org/pub/Report/2006/2006_country_progress_report_gambia_en.pdf
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The world would be a poorer place if it was peopled by children whose parents risked nothing in the cause of social justice, for fear of personal loss. (Joe Slovo - African revolutionary) |
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Cornelius
Sweden
1051 Posts |
Posted - 04 Feb 2007 : 02:44:45
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Can we then safely conclude with the positive outcome of Dr. Jammeh's serious engagement with combating HIV/AIDS that it has alerted the world - and our own attention to, to the seriousness of the problem which everybody - including Dr.Thomas is also talking about now, as never before.
It took the president, glove in hand to enter the hospital with the intention - to cure and not to harm. Now we can reel off statistics from our lips and together call for what is most urgent: HELP!
Also herbal potentials will get more attention, more support.
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Edited by - Cornelius on 04 Feb 2007 02:46:19 |
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Cornelius
Sweden
1051 Posts |
Posted - 04 Feb 2007 : 02:44:45
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Can we then safely conclude with the positive outcome of Dr. Jammeh's serious engagement with combating HIV/AIDS that it has alerted the world - and our own attention to, to the seriousness of the problem which everybody - including Dr.Thomas is also talking about now, as never before.
It took the president, glove in hand to enter the hospital with the intention - to cure and not to harm. Now we can reel off statistics from our lips and together call for what is most urgent: HELP!
Also herbal potentials will get more attention, more support.
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Edited by - Cornelius on 04 Feb 2007 02:46:19 |
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Cornelius
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Janyanfara
Tanzania
1350 Posts |
Posted - 07 Feb 2007 : 00:57:00
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Originally posted by Cornelius
http://article.wn.com/view/2007/02/03/Iran_unveils_herbal_remedy_against_AIDS/
Cornelius,you should write a book(like me). Your thesis are so long that it take like a lecture to read them.
There is ofcause a posibility that Jammeh could cure certain diseases.I don't know if he has the AIDS cure as it is yet to be proven.But Kanilai (his home town) was well know for its knowledge of fixing broken bones.i remember my brother had been take there in the 80s when he broke his leg and it was miraclously fixed.
Am not ofcause implying that President Jammeh can cure AIDS but I cannot rule it out either for I don't know until the result are published that those attended are indeed cured.If that happens,then our country will be a sample for the world.Most people (sick with this westernaphobia)always are made to belief that anything not recomended (be it a cure to a sickness or even style,ect)by the west/America is seen by some of as impossible or not a correct method which in my view is wrong. Ofcause if the west can't find a cure for AIDS,doesn't mean that an African or any other medicine man/woman from anywhere other than the west/America can't cure it.WE Africans have in the past done a lot of miracles and are still doing a lot who knows there might be a cure some where unknown to the western technology with all it advancement.Nothing is imposible.
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Janyanfara
Tanzania
1350 Posts |
Posted - 07 Feb 2007 : 00:57:00
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Originally posted by Cornelius
http://article.wn.com/view/2007/02/03/Iran_unveils_herbal_remedy_against_AIDS/
Cornelius,you should write a book(like me). Your thesis are so long that it take like a lecture to read them.
There is ofcause a posibility that Jammeh could cure certain diseases.I don't know if he has the AIDS cure as it is yet to be proven.But Kanilai (his home town) was well know for its knowledge of fixing broken bones.i remember my brother had been take there in the 80s when he broke his leg and it was miraclously fixed.
Am not ofcause implying that President Jammeh can cure AIDS but I cannot rule it out either for I don't know until the result are published that those attended are indeed cured.If that happens,then our country will be a sample for the world.Most people (sick with this westernaphobia)always are made to belief that anything not recomended (be it a cure to a sickness or even style,ect)by the west/America is seen by some of as impossible or not a correct method which in my view is wrong. Ofcause if the west can't find a cure for AIDS,doesn't mean that an African or any other medicine man/woman from anywhere other than the west/America can't cure it.WE Africans have in the past done a lot of miracles and are still doing a lot who knows there might be a cure some where unknown to the western technology with all it advancement.Nothing is imposible.
peace |
Edited by - Janyanfara on 07 Feb 2007 01:13:57 |
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kondorong
Gambia
4380 Posts |
Posted - 07 Feb 2007 : 01:10:11
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Originally posted by Janyanfara
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Originally posted by Cornelius
http://article.wn.com/view/2007/02/03/Iran_unveils_herbal_remedy_against_AIDS/
Cornelius,you should write a book(like me). Your thesis are so long that it take like a lecture to read them.
There is ofcause a posibility that Jammeh could cure.I don't know if he has AIDS cure as it is yet to be proven.But Kanilai his home town was well know for its knowledge of fixing broken bones because my brother had been take there before when he broke his leg and it was miraclously fixed.
Am not ofcause implying that President Jammeh can cure AIDS but I cannot rule it out either for I don't know until the result are published that those attended are indeed cured.If that happens,then our country will be a sample for the world.My belief is anything not recomended by the west is seen by some of us as impossible which in my view is wrong ofcause if the west can't find a cure for AIDS,doesn't mean that an African can't cure it.WE can.
peace
good to see you back. |
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kondorong
Gambia
4380 Posts |
Posted - 07 Feb 2007 : 01:10:11
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Originally posted by Janyanfara
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Originally posted by Cornelius
http://article.wn.com/view/2007/02/03/Iran_unveils_herbal_remedy_against_AIDS/
Cornelius,you should write a book(like me). Your thesis are so long that it take like a lecture to read them.
There is ofcause a posibility that Jammeh could cure.I don't know if he has AIDS cure as it is yet to be proven.But Kanilai his home town was well know for its knowledge of fixing broken bones because my brother had been take there before when he broke his leg and it was miraclously fixed.
Am not ofcause implying that President Jammeh can cure AIDS but I cannot rule it out either for I don't know until the result are published that those attended are indeed cured.If that happens,then our country will be a sample for the world.My belief is anything not recomended by the west is seen by some of us as impossible which in my view is wrong ofcause if the west can't find a cure for AIDS,doesn't mean that an African can't cure it.WE can.
peace
good to see you back. |
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Janyanfara
Tanzania
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Posted - 07 Feb 2007 : 01:16:05
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Thank you kon,
I was so busy my boy.Did you hear your little (now BIG) Pa Harry is magistrate at Kanifing?I think he will live up to expectations. |
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