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kondorong
Gambia
4380 Posts |
 Posted - 03 Jan 2007 : 00:08:30
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Originally posted by Karamba
Kons,
The biggest error and misguidance is when people cling to an unfounded belief that a certain person or group is the life over the rest. In Gambia, many still hold a belief that some Rich Men trade with invisible powers commanded by such like KONDORONG. Once some rich people die, their wealths disappear. Without accurate account of all that involves, a wrong conclusion is often drawn. It is concluded that the KONDORONG agreed to recover his money some years after the original possessor (rich man) dies. When you have a whole society gripped by such beliefs, what do you expect from Ebra and other intelligent persons who disregard intelligence for fallacious resorts?
I agree. Infact the reason why these businesses fail after the death of owner is partly because of lack of skills for the family to take over. All roads lead to him alone and as such no one is prepared enough to take charge after death. I tell the you, the 85% muslim population is a very high figure. May be 50% will be true. Many still consult the oracles and believe in the spirits and offer sacrifices.
Well KONDORONGS have been believed to give many cows to the Fulani. |
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Karamba
United Kingdom
3820 Posts |
Posted - 03 Jan 2007 : 00:36:21
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Ebra,
By whatever you post, nobody (not me) will take you for a minor. What I mean is simple. You and those who think like you are intelligent. You know the truth but prefer to close your eyes even though your minds are widely open. You use intelligence to trick others. |
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Karamba
United Kingdom
3820 Posts |
Posted - 03 Jan 2007 : 00:36:21
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Ebra,
By whatever you post, nobody (not me) will take you for a minor. What I mean is simple. You and those who think like you are intelligent. You know the truth but prefer to close your eyes even though your minds are widely open. You use intelligence to trick others. |
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kondorong
Gambia
4380 Posts |
Posted - 03 Jan 2007 : 00:43:01
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Originally posted by Karamba
Ebra,
By whatever you post, nobody (not me) will take you for a minor. What I mean is simple. You and those who think like you are intelligent. You know the truth but prefer to close your eyes even though your minds are widely open. You use intelligence to trick others.
You are right. There is none so blind than those who dont WANT to see. |
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kondorong
Gambia
4380 Posts |
Posted - 03 Jan 2007 : 00:43:01
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Originally posted by Karamba
Ebra,
By whatever you post, nobody (not me) will take you for a minor. What I mean is simple. You and those who think like you are intelligent. You know the truth but prefer to close your eyes even though your minds are widely open. You use intelligence to trick others.
You are right. There is none so blind than those who dont WANT to see. |
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kondorong
Gambia
4380 Posts |
Posted - 03 Jan 2007 : 01:36:51
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Originally posted by Ebra
Won't it be nice too for the oppositions to draft issues that are of national concern and present to the government. If they can think of ways in improving areas where they think there needs to be adjustments to various sectors for their reviews. Gambians should accept that Jammeh is our President and we need to work sincerely with him. Most of the firings you hear are due to incompentency, dishonesty, or abuse of office. Thats the reason you will never hear from those fired. Jammeh has been very kind to Gambians financially and emotionally. We need expertraites like Mr Kond, Santa, Karamba, Momodou, Sister Omega, Kobo, Kayjatta, Breadman, Jambo, and others. There are jobs available, if provided that it will be done with sincerity. Nation cannot develop by sitting behind keyboard, one has to participate financially, physically and mentally.
Personally, i dont think i can last a days work in Banjul. Yoro Bawol is nice and warm and under the mango tree, i brew my "attaya" with the comfort that MANSA KILINGNA JAMANO, BUKA DUNIYA BANG.
Like the wollof say: DOE JOKH NIT BOBA, ROCHI LAMENGE(You dont give a head and pull out the tongue) In other words, you must empower people to be effective.
I dont want to work where mistakes are not allowed. To believe in "perfectness" is an illusionary much like someone with dementia. Unfortunately only one person seems to pass the test in the Gambia. There is a management priciple which says that if no one seems to meet your expectations, it time to review yourself and criteria used. |
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kondorong
Gambia
4380 Posts |
Posted - 03 Jan 2007 : 01:36:51
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Originally posted by Ebra
Won't it be nice too for the oppositions to draft issues that are of national concern and present to the government. If they can think of ways in improving areas where they think there needs to be adjustments to various sectors for their reviews. Gambians should accept that Jammeh is our President and we need to work sincerely with him. Most of the firings you hear are due to incompentency, dishonesty, or abuse of office. Thats the reason you will never hear from those fired. Jammeh has been very kind to Gambians financially and emotionally. We need expertraites like Mr Kond, Santa, Karamba, Momodou, Sister Omega, Kobo, Kayjatta, Breadman, Jambo, and others. There are jobs available, if provided that it will be done with sincerity. Nation cannot develop by sitting behind keyboard, one has to participate financially, physically and mentally.
Personally, i dont think i can last a days work in Banjul. Yoro Bawol is nice and warm and under the mango tree, i brew my "attaya" with the comfort that MANSA KILINGNA JAMANO, BUKA DUNIYA BANG.
Like the wollof say: DOE JOKH NIT BOBA, ROCHI LAMENGE(You dont give a head and pull out the tongue) In other words, you must empower people to be effective.
I dont want to work where mistakes are not allowed. To believe in "perfectness" is an illusionary much like someone with dementia. Unfortunately only one person seems to pass the test in the Gambia. There is a management priciple which says that if no one seems to meet your expectations, it time to review yourself and criteria used. |
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MADIBA
United Kingdom
1275 Posts |
Posted - 03 Jan 2007 : 01:53:38
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Konds, believe me, unless the opposition build schools, roads or give back to the electorates something as PDOIS have done, the poor farmer will not listen to some one who can't provide them even a well. Despite educating them, they need to see some ventures to believe whatever promise you make to them. A case in Point during the first republic, Mbemba Tambedou of the GPP defeated the PPP candidate MC Cham despite the PPP showering money in TUMANA. Mbemba had initiated projects for the people there from his own pocket to make a formidable challege to the PPP's MC Cham.
During the campaigns , APRC tell people to vote for them if they want to enjoy certain facilities such as, milling machines, boreholes, roads, schools, health centres etc etc. True or False? But in a locality if the APRC points to 10 schools and the opposition can atleast point ot 1 or 2 the challenge is on. unfortunately this is the mentality of the majority of our people especially our rural folks. Its pathetic to hear slogans such as ONTOL NENEN MANKEH OPPOSITION, ONTOL NING MANSAKUNDA LOM. Meaning we are never in the opposition we are always for the Ruling Party.
The process MUST be a gradual one. It is either we endure the long and hard route through political education of the masses or give something to the masses whilst in the opposition to secure their trust.
It is a fact that, the monies spent on these projects are taxpayers or loans borrowed in our name, you and i may be priviledged to know that, but the farmer in yoro bawol may not. We can ink and salivate but until we move towards to pratical we will never succeed in removing a gov't in The Gambia through the ballot box even after Jammeh is gone.
True, the ship of state must have one captain, but must also have vice-captains(gov't in waiting). Opposition areas must not be denied their rights to projects financed by our own money, true, but what can you do in such a situation where, the NA is dominated by the ruling party, the same people calling the shots. Not many a hungry people could be sincere, especially wen the oppressor has the means of providing succour.
Finally the funds could be generated through means such as operating businesses, consumer goods, schools etc, etc , the initial capital could be even party membershipship funds if such a structure exists in the first place. However, Jammeh and co have got some points albeit the other deficiencies which i also mentioned earlier on. |
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MADIBA
United Kingdom
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Posted - 03 Jan 2007 : 01:53:38
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Konds, believe me, unless the opposition build schools, roads or give back to the electorates something as PDOIS have done, the poor farmer will not listen to some one who can't provide them even a well. Despite educating them, they need to see some ventures to believe whatever promise you make to them. A case in Point during the first republic, Mbemba Tambedou of the GPP defeated the PPP candidate MC Cham despite the PPP showering money in TUMANA. Mbemba had initiated projects for the people there from his own pocket to make a formidable challege to the PPP's MC Cham.
During the campaigns , APRC tell people to vote for them if they want to enjoy certain facilities such as, milling machines, boreholes, roads, schools, health centres etc etc. True or False? But in a locality if the APRC points to 10 schools and the opposition can atleast point ot 1 or 2 the challenge is on. unfortunately this is the mentality of the majority of our people especially our rural folks. Its pathetic to hear slogans such as ONTOL NENEN MANKEH OPPOSITION, ONTOL NING MANSAKUNDA LOM. Meaning we are never in the opposition we are always for the Ruling Party.
The process MUST be a gradual one. It is either we endure the long and hard route through political education of the masses or give something to the masses whilst in the opposition to secure their trust.
It is a fact that, the monies spent on these projects are taxpayers or loans borrowed in our name, you and i may be priviledged to know that, but the farmer in yoro bawol may not. We can ink and salivate but until we move towards to pratical we will never succeed in removing a gov't in The Gambia through the ballot box even after Jammeh is gone.
True, the ship of state must have one captain, but must also have vice-captains(gov't in waiting). Opposition areas must not be denied their rights to projects financed by our own money, true, but what can you do in such a situation where, the NA is dominated by the ruling party, the same people calling the shots. Not many a hungry people could be sincere, especially wen the oppressor has the means of providing succour.
Finally the funds could be generated through means such as operating businesses, consumer goods, schools etc, etc , the initial capital could be even party membershipship funds if such a structure exists in the first place. However, Jammeh and co have got some points albeit the other deficiencies which i also mentioned earlier on. |
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kondorong
Gambia
4380 Posts |
Posted - 03 Jan 2007 : 18:12:48
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Originally posted by MADIBA
Konds, believe me, unless the opposition build schools, roads or give back to the electorates something as PDOIS have done, the poor farmer will not listen to some one who can't provide them even a well. Despite educating them, they need to see some ventures to believe whatever promise you make to them. A case in Point during the first republic, Mbemba Tambedou of the GPP defeated the PPP candidate MC Cham despite the PPP showering money in TUMANA. Mbemba had initiated projects for the people there from his own pocket to make a formidable challege to the PPP's MC Cham.
During the campaigns , APRC tell people to vote for them if they want to enjoy certain facilities such as, milling machines, boreholes, roads, schools, health centres etc etc. True or False? But in a locality if the APRC points to 10 schools and the opposition can atleast point ot 1 or 2 the challenge is on. unfortunately this is the mentality of the majority of our people especially our rural folks. Its pathetic to hear slogans such as ONTOL NENEN MANKEH OPPOSITION, ONTOL NING MANSAKUNDA LOM. Meaning we are never in the opposition we are always for the Ruling Party.
The process MUST be a gradual one. It is either we endure the long and hard route through political education of the masses or give something to the masses whilst in the opposition to secure their trust.
It is a fact that, the monies spent on these projects are taxpayers or loans borrowed in our name, you and i may be priviledged to know that, but the farmer in yoro bawol may not. We can ink and salivate but until we move towards to pratical we will never succeed in removing a gov't in The Gambia through the ballot box even after Jammeh is gone.
True, the ship of state must have one captain, but must also have vice-captains(gov't in waiting). Opposition areas must not be denied their rights to projects financed by our own money, true, but what can you do in such a situation where, the NA is dominated by the ruling party, the same people calling the shots. Not many a hungry people could be sincere, especially wen the oppressor has the means of providing succour.
Finally the funds could be generated through means such as operating businesses, consumer goods, schools etc, etc , the initial capital could be even party membershipship funds if such a structure exists in the first place. However, Jammeh and co have got some points albeit the other deficiencies which i also mentioned earlier on.
The business of government is not to be in business. Did i hear you say party fund through memebership contributions? That does not exist.
Most people cant afford taking care of their daily responsibilities let alone sustain a party. I think there should be public finanacing of political parties by them not paying for their TV and radio broadcasts etc.
Then may be we should wrap up and leave because the opposition can never build schools without outside help. |
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kondorong
Gambia
4380 Posts |
Posted - 03 Jan 2007 : 18:12:48
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Originally posted by MADIBA
Konds, believe me, unless the opposition build schools, roads or give back to the electorates something as PDOIS have done, the poor farmer will not listen to some one who can't provide them even a well. Despite educating them, they need to see some ventures to believe whatever promise you make to them. A case in Point during the first republic, Mbemba Tambedou of the GPP defeated the PPP candidate MC Cham despite the PPP showering money in TUMANA. Mbemba had initiated projects for the people there from his own pocket to make a formidable challege to the PPP's MC Cham.
During the campaigns , APRC tell people to vote for them if they want to enjoy certain facilities such as, milling machines, boreholes, roads, schools, health centres etc etc. True or False? But in a locality if the APRC points to 10 schools and the opposition can atleast point ot 1 or 2 the challenge is on. unfortunately this is the mentality of the majority of our people especially our rural folks. Its pathetic to hear slogans such as ONTOL NENEN MANKEH OPPOSITION, ONTOL NING MANSAKUNDA LOM. Meaning we are never in the opposition we are always for the Ruling Party.
The process MUST be a gradual one. It is either we endure the long and hard route through political education of the masses or give something to the masses whilst in the opposition to secure their trust.
It is a fact that, the monies spent on these projects are taxpayers or loans borrowed in our name, you and i may be priviledged to know that, but the farmer in yoro bawol may not. We can ink and salivate but until we move towards to pratical we will never succeed in removing a gov't in The Gambia through the ballot box even after Jammeh is gone.
True, the ship of state must have one captain, but must also have vice-captains(gov't in waiting). Opposition areas must not be denied their rights to projects financed by our own money, true, but what can you do in such a situation where, the NA is dominated by the ruling party, the same people calling the shots. Not many a hungry people could be sincere, especially wen the oppressor has the means of providing succour.
Finally the funds could be generated through means such as operating businesses, consumer goods, schools etc, etc , the initial capital could be even party membershipship funds if such a structure exists in the first place. However, Jammeh and co have got some points albeit the other deficiencies which i also mentioned earlier on.
The business of government is not to be in business. Did i hear you say party fund through memebership contributions? That does not exist.
Most people cant afford taking care of their daily responsibilities let alone sustain a party. I think there should be public finanacing of political parties by them not paying for their TV and radio broadcasts etc.
Then may be we should wrap up and leave because the opposition can never build schools without outside help. |
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MADIBA
United Kingdom
1275 Posts |
Posted - 03 Jan 2007 : 19:04:28
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Originally posted by kondorong
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Originally posted by MADIBA
Konds, believe me, unless the opposition build schools, roads or give back to the electorates something as PDOIS have done, the poor farmer will not listen to some one who can't provide them even a well. Despite educating them, they need to see some ventures to believe whatever promise you make to them. A case in Point during the first republic, Mbemba Tambedou of the GPP defeated the PPP candidate MC Cham despite the PPP showering money in TUMANA. Mbemba had initiated projects for the people there from his own pocket to make a formidable challege to the PPP's MC Cham.
During the campaigns , APRC tell people to vote for them if they want to enjoy certain facilities such as, milling machines, boreholes, roads, schools, health centres etc etc. True or False? But in a locality if the APRC points to 10 schools and the opposition can atleast point ot 1 or 2 the challenge is on. unfortunately this is the mentality of the majority of our people especially our rural folks. Its pathetic to hear slogans such as ONTOL NENEN MANKEH OPPOSITION, ONTOL NING MANSAKUNDA LOM. Meaning we are never in the opposition we are always for the Ruling Party.
The process MUST be a gradual one. It is either we endure the long and hard route through political education of the masses or give something to the masses whilst in the opposition to secure their trust.
It is a fact that, the monies spent on these projects are taxpayers or loans borrowed in our name, you and i may be priviledged to know that, but the farmer in yoro bawol may not. We can ink and salivate but until we move towards to pratical we will never succeed in removing a gov't in The Gambia through the ballot box even after Jammeh is gone.
True, the ship of state must have one captain, but must also have vice-captains(gov't in waiting). Opposition areas must not be denied their rights to projects financed by our own money, true, but what can you do in such a situation where, the NA is dominated by the ruling party, the same people calling the shots. Not many a hungry people could be sincere, especially wen the oppressor has the means of providing succour.
Finally the funds could be generated through means such as operating businesses, consumer goods, schools etc, etc , the initial capital could be even party membershipship funds if such a structure exists in the first place. However, Jammeh and co have got some points albeit the other deficiencies which i also mentioned earlier on.
The business of government is not to be in business. Did i hear you say party fund through memebership contributions? That does not exist.
Most people cant afford taking care of their daily responsibilities let alone sustain a party. I think there should be public finanacing of political parties by them not paying for their TV and radio broadcasts etc.
Then may be we should wrap up and leave because the opposition can never build schools without outside help.
I may be a novice in politics but my personal experience on the ground for close to 30yrs has taught me that unless the opposition are seen to be involved in projects in the grassroots they will never win under the present conditions. Did i hear you hear say party contributions don't exist? Maybe in Yoro Bawol. Public financing of opposition parties? You dreaming brother. which planet do you live on? We need to design strategies that suit our conditions and our society. Any other thing modelled along alien ideas will fail woefully. PDOIS has built reputable schools whose pupils have excelled in tertiary intutitions. Do you know about the Nyakoi schools? Konds come down, one can't fish from a mountain top.
TV and Radio, as as said ealier on, that's as much as we INK and SALIVATE, we have to show practical steps of what we preach. If is talking alone without doing that's going to remove the APRC, pack up brethern! |
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MADIBA
United Kingdom
1275 Posts |
Posted - 03 Jan 2007 : 19:04:28
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Originally posted by kondorong
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Originally posted by MADIBA
Konds, believe me, unless the opposition build schools, roads or give back to the electorates something as PDOIS have done, the poor farmer will not listen to some one who can't provide them even a well. Despite educating them, they need to see some ventures to believe whatever promise you make to them. A case in Point during the first republic, Mbemba Tambedou of the GPP defeated the PPP candidate MC Cham despite the PPP showering money in TUMANA. Mbemba had initiated projects for the people there from his own pocket to make a formidable challege to the PPP's MC Cham.
During the campaigns , APRC tell people to vote for them if they want to enjoy certain facilities such as, milling machines, boreholes, roads, schools, health centres etc etc. True or False? But in a locality if the APRC points to 10 schools and the opposition can atleast point ot 1 or 2 the challenge is on. unfortunately this is the mentality of the majority of our people especially our rural folks. Its pathetic to hear slogans such as ONTOL NENEN MANKEH OPPOSITION, ONTOL NING MANSAKUNDA LOM. Meaning we are never in the opposition we are always for the Ruling Party.
The process MUST be a gradual one. It is either we endure the long and hard route through political education of the masses or give something to the masses whilst in the opposition to secure their trust.
It is a fact that, the monies spent on these projects are taxpayers or loans borrowed in our name, you and i may be priviledged to know that, but the farmer in yoro bawol may not. We can ink and salivate but until we move towards to pratical we will never succeed in removing a gov't in The Gambia through the ballot box even after Jammeh is gone.
True, the ship of state must have one captain, but must also have vice-captains(gov't in waiting). Opposition areas must not be denied their rights to projects financed by our own money, true, but what can you do in such a situation where, the NA is dominated by the ruling party, the same people calling the shots. Not many a hungry people could be sincere, especially wen the oppressor has the means of providing succour.
Finally the funds could be generated through means such as operating businesses, consumer goods, schools etc, etc , the initial capital could be even party membershipship funds if such a structure exists in the first place. However, Jammeh and co have got some points albeit the other deficiencies which i also mentioned earlier on.
The business of government is not to be in business. Did i hear you say party fund through memebership contributions? That does not exist.
Most people cant afford taking care of their daily responsibilities let alone sustain a party. I think there should be public finanacing of political parties by them not paying for their TV and radio broadcasts etc.
Then may be we should wrap up and leave because the opposition can never build schools without outside help.
I may be a novice in politics but my personal experience on the ground for close to 30yrs has taught me that unless the opposition are seen to be involved in projects in the grassroots they will never win under the present conditions. Did i hear you hear say party contributions don't exist? Maybe in Yoro Bawol. Public financing of opposition parties? You dreaming brother. which planet do you live on? We need to design strategies that suit our conditions and our society. Any other thing modelled along alien ideas will fail woefully. PDOIS has built reputable schools whose pupils have excelled in tertiary intutitions. Do you know about the Nyakoi schools? Konds come down, one can't fish from a mountain top.
TV and Radio, as as said ealier on, that's as much as we INK and SALIVATE, we have to show practical steps of what we preach. If is talking alone without doing that's going to remove the APRC, pack up brethern! |
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kondorong
Gambia
4380 Posts |
Posted - 03 Jan 2007 : 20:29:16
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Originally posted by MADIBA
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Originally posted by kondorong
[quote]Originally posted by MADIBA
The business of government is not to be in business. Did i hear you say party fund through memebership contributions? That does not exist.
Most people cant afford taking care of their daily responsibilities let alone sustain a party. I think there should be public finanacing of political parties by them not paying for their TV and radio broadcasts etc.
Then may be we should wrap up and leave because the opposition can never build schools without outside help.
I may be a novice in politics but my personal experience on the ground for close to 30yrs has taught me that unless the opposition are seen to be involved in projects in the grassroots they will never win under the present conditions. Did i hear you hear say party contributions don't exist? Maybe in Yoro Bawol. Public financing of opposition parties? You dreaming brother. which planet do you live on?[:D] We need to design strategies that suit our conditions and our society. Any other thing modelled along alien ideas will fail woefully. PDOIS has built reputable schools whose pupils have excelled in tertiary intutitions. Do you know about the Nyakoi schools? Konds come down, one can't fish from a mountain top.
TV and Radio, as as said ealier on, that's as much as we INK and SALIVATE, we have to show practical steps of what we preach. If is talking alone without doing that's going to remove the APRC, pack up brethern!
I am on planet Yoro Bawol
My son attended Nyakoi School in Tallinding. How do you think they got those white land rovers? Don’t tell me from the fees at Nyakoi School. I was a parent of children there so i know better. Don’t tell me Foroyaa Newspaper?
In fact with the Internet now, fewer people are buying Foroyaa. All Gambian sites carry a verbatim of the publication.
Well if opposition parties have to build schools and roads before they can be voted for office, then pack up brethren!!!
There is a reason why taxes are collected and this proposal runs counter to the very essence of levying taxes. The role of the opposition is not to compete in building roads schools or bridges, but ensure accountability and good governance in public institutions and also prepare themselves for office with programmes. An opposition is just another alternative voice in the drive towards national development. To whom much is given, much is expected. The Government must provide within its means(taxes grants etc) for all of us. The citizens never gave the opposition money to build schools so why should they expect schools from them.
Well perhaps, its because the trustees of public funds have failed them. Like the mandinka say: ni yeh sisewo jeh jibi laal noma, toorr lal le filtamama. (If you see the chickens following the water collectors, its because they could not find the grain millers). Perhaps the opposition has become more relevant than the elected officials. What a tragedy.
No wonder the government can make public announcements that areas that do not vote for them will not see any development even though taxes and loans are contracted in our name irrespective of party affiliation. What we need is to educate our people that they have right to development within our means and that in a democracy every citizen must be served. Building schools only legitimises an already illegitimate decision by the government.
No wonder we often hear MANSA LA KODO or JAWARA LA KODO (meaning the president's money) as though public money is his. A more relevant Mandinka saying: TOTO NA KONOKONO FENG, BAY MU TOTO TAA LETI. (Meaning the contents of a toad’s stomach all belong to the toad referring to the president owning every thing in the country. However, the toad would have owned all the things in his stomach, if he did earn it legally otherwise its stomach should be opened and give to Caesar what is due to Caesar and to God what is due to God.
We don’t have to legitimise an illegitimate policy otherwise every opposition will have to build a school before they can win votes. In a democracy, society has allocated funds for development through citizens’ contributions called taxes. It’s that tax which should be used for public good. Remember that the opposition is not from an alien planet. They are Gambian taxpayers just like anyone. Asking them to build schools for them to be voted in creates two things:
1. If they are in public office, it might mean corruption, which in fact would mean taking public funds and giving it back to them as though it was theirs. It’s like robbing Peter to pay Paul.
2. Secondly it might mean that to be elected; one has to use one's money to bribe voters. That is not democracy. Citizens must not be bribed or tricked into voting just because someone could give them a bag of rice. Eventually they will pay for it through kickbacks. Two wrongs don’t make a right. There is no free lunch
They may if they have funds but they don’t HAVE to, as you seem to tell us. Instead its the Government not the opposition who HAS to because they are entrusted with public finances for the benefit of all. To ask the opposition is to demand what they don’t have but also to entrench the politics of NAHATEH. No wonder people are selling voters cards for not voting or for voting for a particular candidate.
What happens after the election is that the winning candidate never comes back until five years and rightly so he should. Because he paid for his seat in the house and owes no one anything. He can choose to practice virtue if he so wishes.
Running a parallel government in a democracy is a dangerous road to take.
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kondorong
Gambia
4380 Posts |
Posted - 03 Jan 2007 : 20:29:16
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Originally posted by MADIBA
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Originally posted by kondorong
[quote]Originally posted by MADIBA
The business of government is not to be in business. Did i hear you say party fund through memebership contributions? That does not exist.
Most people cant afford taking care of their daily responsibilities let alone sustain a party. I think there should be public finanacing of political parties by them not paying for their TV and radio broadcasts etc.
Then may be we should wrap up and leave because the opposition can never build schools without outside help.
I may be a novice in politics but my personal experience on the ground for close to 30yrs has taught me that unless the opposition are seen to be involved in projects in the grassroots they will never win under the present conditions. Did i hear you hear say party contributions don't exist? Maybe in Yoro Bawol. Public financing of opposition parties? You dreaming brother. which planet do you live on?[:D] We need to design strategies that suit our conditions and our society. Any other thing modelled along alien ideas will fail woefully. PDOIS has built reputable schools whose pupils have excelled in tertiary intutitions. Do you know about the Nyakoi schools? Konds come down, one can't fish from a mountain top.
TV and Radio, as as said ealier on, that's as much as we INK and SALIVATE, we have to show practical steps of what we preach. If is talking alone without doing that's going to remove the APRC, pack up brethern!
I am on planet Yoro Bawol
My son attended Nyakoi School in Tallinding. How do you think they got those white land rovers? Don’t tell me from the fees at Nyakoi School. I was a parent of children there so i know better. Don’t tell me Foroyaa Newspaper?
In fact with the Internet now, fewer people are buying Foroyaa. All Gambian sites carry a verbatim of the publication.
Well if opposition parties have to build schools and roads before they can be voted for office, then pack up brethren!!!
There is a reason why taxes are collected and this proposal runs counter to the very essence of levying taxes. The role of the opposition is not to compete in building roads schools or bridges, but ensure accountability and good governance in public institutions and also prepare themselves for office with programmes. An opposition is just another alternative voice in the drive towards national development. To whom much is given, much is expected. The Government must provide within its means(taxes grants etc) for all of us. The citizens never gave the opposition money to build schools so why should they expect schools from them.
Well perhaps, its because the trustees of public funds have failed them. Like the mandinka say: ni yeh sisewo jeh jibi laal noma, toorr lal le filtamama. (If you see the chickens following the water collectors, its because they could not find the grain millers). Perhaps the opposition has become more relevant than the elected officials. What a tragedy.
No wonder the government can make public announcements that areas that do not vote for them will not see any development even though taxes and loans are contracted in our name irrespective of party affiliation. What we need is to educate our people that they have right to development within our means and that in a democracy every citizen must be served. Building schools only legitimises an already illegitimate decision by the government.
No wonder we often hear MANSA LA KODO or JAWARA LA KODO (meaning the president's money) as though public money is his. A more relevant Mandinka saying: TOTO NA KONOKONO FENG, BAY MU TOTO TAA LETI. (Meaning the contents of a toad’s stomach all belong to the toad referring to the president owning every thing in the country. However, the toad would have owned all the things in his stomach, if he did earn it legally otherwise its stomach should be opened and give to Caesar what is due to Caesar and to God what is due to God.
We don’t have to legitimise an illegitimate policy otherwise every opposition will have to build a school before they can win votes. In a democracy, society has allocated funds for development through citizens’ contributions called taxes. It’s that tax which should be used for public good. Remember that the opposition is not from an alien planet. They are Gambian taxpayers just like anyone. Asking them to build schools for them to be voted in creates two things:
1. If they are in public office, it might mean corruption, which in fact would mean taking public funds and giving it back to them as though it was theirs. It’s like robbing Peter to pay Paul.
2. Secondly it might mean that to be elected; one has to use one's money to bribe voters. That is not democracy. Citizens must not be bribed or tricked into voting just because someone could give them a bag of rice. Eventually they will pay for it through kickbacks. Two wrongs don’t make a right. There is no free lunch
They may if they have funds but they don’t HAVE to, as you seem to tell us. Instead its the Government not the opposition who HAS to because they are entrusted with public finances for the benefit of all. To ask the opposition is to demand what they don’t have but also to entrench the politics of NAHATEH. No wonder people are selling voters cards for not voting or for voting for a particular candidate.
What happens after the election is that the winning candidate never comes back until five years and rightly so he should. Because he paid for his seat in the house and owes no one anything. He can choose to practice virtue if he so wishes.
Running a parallel government in a democracy is a dangerous road to take.
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