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kondorong
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 Posted - 02 Jan 2007 : 20:36:14
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Originally posted by bread man
Santangfara,
Karamba,
Jammeh seized power by the gun and yes that was not constitutional, however, he was later voted in to office democratically and I respect the will of the people. If you were in The Gambia july 94 you would have also supported the change that took place cos the majority of the people did.
This is the problem. Like the mandinka say BUKU SUMUNA LA. You cannot use urine to wash faeces. You are never clean. You need water to clean oneself not urine.
The very act of treason by seizing power very well negates whatever comes next. Its all about legitimacy. If you live in a glass house, you cannot throw stones. But as mandinka say KUNU KANTALA BUKA YAA JEH.
Its the law and as such it should take its course and if that law had been applied there would not have been an election let alone for him to become president.
I will give you a simple case of Islamic jurisprudence. This happened in the Gambia. A married man had a child out of wedlock. Under Shariah, that man should have been stoned to death. However, the law never applied because we are a democracy, which is fine by me. However, when he died, it was decided that the illegitimate child couldn’t inherit according to Islam. But this illegitimate child is older than many of his half siblings.
There was a lot of fighting to share the wealth. An old man passed by and was asked to adjucate. He asked the gathering if they have ever seen a dead person still capable of making babies. They all shouted no. He told them the shariah they wanted to apply to deny the illegitimate child could only have been so if the father was subjected to Sharia in which case he would have died, and therefore he would not have had any more children.
He told them that these children claiming inheritance are children of a dead man, which is impossible. It was therefore ruled that the illegitimate child would inherit because the shariah that denied him inheritance was never applied on the father, which enabled him to have "legitimate" children. He would have died without these so called legitimate children. An illegal act does not lead to legitimacy.
Therefore a coup does not legitimised a presidency even if that coup led to a government of democracy with the same coup leaders at the top. The variables would become unfair and illegal in the first place. You cannot steal money and ask forgiveness because part of the money was given to poor people. The law does not see what you do with the money, it sees the act of stealing which should not go unpunished in some form.
In Ghana, Rawlings used to celebrate the November revolution just like our July 22nd. But Ghanaians took him to court that he could not celebrate removing a democratically elected government and the citizens won against the state. Because Ghanaians saw it as an attack on democracy and such is not anything to be proud.
But then i remind myself that Ghana is not Gambia where 70% of our population have no education to High school and barely even went to school. Rawlings never celebrated that day again. May i remind you less you forget, the July 22 is modeled on the Ghanaian revolution but Rawlings was quick to tell the soldiers to hand over power to civilian rule which they refused. Unfortunately in the Gambia, July 22 is more important than February 18.
No wonder, he told us that coups are justified means to change a government based on the criteria he gave. A coup is never a justified option in a democracy. No matter how badly governed people might be, one should have faith in the ballot box and legitimately be given the blessing of the majority.
Like the Wolof say: SO BUGEH DON MBAHANA, DANGA NANGO DON DALLA (If you want to be a hat and sit on our heads, you must be prepared to be a shoe in the first place to be trampled on). It’s all about legitimacy.
But you see, even if he had not seized power through a coup, democracy still accords the citizens to participate in the selection of their leaders, which means that divergent views are an integral part of democratic ideals. May be you and I can do this on Bantaba, but i am not sure if we could do this in Yoro Bawol under the mango tree by the health centre. Yoro Bawol may be far from Banjul, but too close for comfort.
Throughout history, democracy only thrives by being vigilant and speaking up and also the entrenchment of freedom of speech, assembly and association.
The freedom of association also guarantees the freedom to not associate with any party in the first place. This freedom to not associate is what gives citizens inalianable rights to form their own political parties. I dont want to turn this into a civic class.
That is why we have presidential elections to re-evaluate performance. The minorities in a democracy who are in opposition are also protected from the majority party through constitutional instruments like freedom of speech, assembly, association, without let or hindrance. They dont have to beg to have these rights enjoyed. It must be given to them without hinderance.
REMEMBER, AN OPPOSITION IS A GOVERNMENT IN WAITING WHILST A GOVERNMENT IS AN OPPOSITION IN WAITING. WHAT GOES AROUND COMES AROUND.
When you walk the ladder of success, please be nice to those you pass along the way, beacuse when you have a free fall, they may stretch out their hands so that you dont have a hard landing on the ground. A nice gesture triggers niceness.
Unfortunately for us, that minority have become "saboteurs" who must be eliminated by all means necessary. Other constitutional protections are that the Gambia must remain a democracy; a key principle that ensures that a majority should not during anytime in the future be able to oppress the minority by seizing all instruments of a democratic state. I dont want to be part of a democracry where there is no opposition nor do I want to be president where the opposition is weak to participate in critical national issues.
But that is human life. We only ask for lenienecy when we loose power. I would sugget you watch the movie titled: "The gods must be crazy" based on the SAN people of the kalahari desert. Play close attention to the fight that the bushman saw between two opposing armies and where one invokes the Geneva Conventions for prisoners of war when he was captured and being ill treated. He however subjected his captors to the same brutality when the tides changed in his favour.
I rest my case.
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Karamba
United Kingdom
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Posted - 02 Jan 2007 : 21:55:20
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Kondorong,
No mistakes, no mis-statements. You have it ALL CORRECT. From 22 July 1994 to this day, the grain of truth that all sincere and clear-thinking minds of Gambia seek to locate is what you Kondorong holds by the tip of your fingers. If this would not cause anything to hurt, my first impression is that you pass this piece to other sites so that it goes to a wider audience for more serious discussion. I have no doubt that you squaredly landed on the root of matters. By Laws of The Gambia Jammeh committed nothing less than TREASON. Beating the laws does not mean the laws will die for his sake. Even after 100 years, history will still be history. Once more Kondorong, extend this arguement on other sites. There is lot of good stuff to let go. |
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Karamba
United Kingdom
3820 Posts |
Posted - 02 Jan 2007 : 21:55:20
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Kondorong,
No mistakes, no mis-statements. You have it ALL CORRECT. From 22 July 1994 to this day, the grain of truth that all sincere and clear-thinking minds of Gambia seek to locate is what you Kondorong holds by the tip of your fingers. If this would not cause anything to hurt, my first impression is that you pass this piece to other sites so that it goes to a wider audience for more serious discussion. I have no doubt that you squaredly landed on the root of matters. By Laws of The Gambia Jammeh committed nothing less than TREASON. Beating the laws does not mean the laws will die for his sake. Even after 100 years, history will still be history. Once more Kondorong, extend this arguement on other sites. There is lot of good stuff to let go. |
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kondorong
Gambia
4380 Posts |
Posted - 02 Jan 2007 : 22:53:29
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Unfortunately i dont know any one on other sites that would entertain this piece. In addition, i dont think its written well enough to deserve a circulation.
This is good enough for a forum setting. There are few mistakes to adjust.
Thanks for your comments and i am humbled. I take comfort in giants like you from whom i have sought wisdom. I am just a small fry sitting by the fireplace listening to senior citizens like you. |
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kondorong
Gambia
4380 Posts |
Posted - 02 Jan 2007 : 22:53:29
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Unfortunately i dont know any one on other sites that would entertain this piece. In addition, i dont think its written well enough to deserve a circulation.
This is good enough for a forum setting. There are few mistakes to adjust.
Thanks for your comments and i am humbled. I take comfort in giants like you from whom i have sought wisdom. I am just a small fry sitting by the fireplace listening to senior citizens like you. |
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Ebra
Gambia
268 Posts |
Posted - 02 Jan 2007 : 23:01:54
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| Interesting debate. I want to throw some points on Breadman's comments. I concurred with you Breadman, Gambia has developed drastically, especially in terms of roads, health, education, communication, but at the same time weakness in human rights, an accountability. Developing a collapse country is not an easy task. I beleive that Jammeh's wish is to see Gambia a promise land and land of sustainability. The oppositions should put aside their differences and join hands with the Government to work for the realization of vision 20/20. I think Breadman is entitle to his opinions, and I agree with him/her. If we can have people like Karamba in Gambia with his verse knowledge, can be of significant impact on our development. Jammeh's achievements should not also be oversited. During his regime I think he did a lot. |
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Ebra
Gambia
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Posted - 02 Jan 2007 : 23:01:54
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| Interesting debate. I want to throw some points on Breadman's comments. I concurred with you Breadman, Gambia has developed drastically, especially in terms of roads, health, education, communication, but at the same time weakness in human rights, an accountability. Developing a collapse country is not an easy task. I beleive that Jammeh's wish is to see Gambia a promise land and land of sustainability. The oppositions should put aside their differences and join hands with the Government to work for the realization of vision 20/20. I think Breadman is entitle to his opinions, and I agree with him/her. If we can have people like Karamba in Gambia with his verse knowledge, can be of significant impact on our development. Jammeh's achievements should not also be oversited. During his regime I think he did a lot. |
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kondorong
Gambia
4380 Posts |
Posted - 02 Jan 2007 : 23:12:32
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Originally posted by Ebra
Interesting debate. I want to throw some points on Breadman's comments. I concurred with you Breadman, Gambia has developed drastically, especially in terms of roads, health, education, communication, but at the same time weakness in human rights, an accountability. Developing a collapse country is not an easy task. I beleive that Jammeh's wish is to see Gambia a promise land and land of sustainability. The oppositions should put aside their differences and join hands with the Government to work for the realization of vision 20/20. I think Breadman is entitle to his opinions, and I agree with him/her. If we can have people like Karamba in Gambia with his verse knowledge, can be of significant impact on our development. Jammeh's achievements should not also be oversited. During his regime I think he did a lot.
Having the right to speak one's mind is integral to democracy. Breadman has every right to believe what he blieves in. However, that right must not encroach on Karamba's right to free speech or assembly.
SOSO KANA NYO FAA, NYO KANA SOSO FAA. We are all in it together. We rise and fall together.
I agree that they did a lot of good job, but nation building is never a complete exercise. It has to be built upon every time and a free press is at the heart of healthy debates on alternatives means to developing our country. No one individual has a monopoly on alternative means to development. A country is considered under developed when its natural resources and technicl competence of its people can no longer support it. Technology has two parts; the technical hardware and the human software(education, systems of governance, capacity building, skills and knowledge.)
Its important to note that education, knowledge and skills are different, each requiring different approaches.
That is why on the one dollar United States Bill, the founding fathers put in an incomplete pyramid which means we must always work on improving our systems. Even Abraham Lincoln once suspended Hebus corpus even though he is called the father of the nation and gave hope to millions of freed slaves.
Democracy is never given free and politicians dont give you your rights unless you demand it. But you can only demand it if you know it exists. You can only know its existence through education. Our greatest enemy is ignorance.
We appreciate the roads etc but its our money and as such we have right to demand accountability. What ever happened to this popular word in 1994, should be well reserched. Today, accountability, probity and good governance of the hay days of 1994, has become a taboo to be swept under the carpet. |
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kondorong
Gambia
4380 Posts |
Posted - 02 Jan 2007 : 23:12:32
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Originally posted by Ebra
Interesting debate. I want to throw some points on Breadman's comments. I concurred with you Breadman, Gambia has developed drastically, especially in terms of roads, health, education, communication, but at the same time weakness in human rights, an accountability. Developing a collapse country is not an easy task. I beleive that Jammeh's wish is to see Gambia a promise land and land of sustainability. The oppositions should put aside their differences and join hands with the Government to work for the realization of vision 20/20. I think Breadman is entitle to his opinions, and I agree with him/her. If we can have people like Karamba in Gambia with his verse knowledge, can be of significant impact on our development. Jammeh's achievements should not also be oversited. During his regime I think he did a lot.
Having the right to speak one's mind is integral to democracy. Breadman has every right to believe what he blieves in. However, that right must not encroach on Karamba's right to free speech or assembly.
SOSO KANA NYO FAA, NYO KANA SOSO FAA. We are all in it together. We rise and fall together.
I agree that they did a lot of good job, but nation building is never a complete exercise. It has to be built upon every time and a free press is at the heart of healthy debates on alternatives means to developing our country. No one individual has a monopoly on alternative means to development. A country is considered under developed when its natural resources and technicl competence of its people can no longer support it. Technology has two parts; the technical hardware and the human software(education, systems of governance, capacity building, skills and knowledge.)
Its important to note that education, knowledge and skills are different, each requiring different approaches.
That is why on the one dollar United States Bill, the founding fathers put in an incomplete pyramid which means we must always work on improving our systems. Even Abraham Lincoln once suspended Hebus corpus even though he is called the father of the nation and gave hope to millions of freed slaves.
Democracy is never given free and politicians dont give you your rights unless you demand it. But you can only demand it if you know it exists. You can only know its existence through education. Our greatest enemy is ignorance.
We appreciate the roads etc but its our money and as such we have right to demand accountability. What ever happened to this popular word in 1994, should be well reserched. Today, accountability, probity and good governance of the hay days of 1994, has become a taboo to be swept under the carpet. |
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MADIBA
United Kingdom
1275 Posts |
Posted - 02 Jan 2007 : 23:28:51
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Originally posted by kondorong
quote:
Originally posted by bread man
Santangfara,
Karamba,
Jammeh seized power by the gun and yes that was not constitutional, however, he was later voted in to office democratically and I respect the will of the people. If you were in The Gambia july 94 you would have also supported the change that took place cos the majority of the people did.
This is the problem. Like the mandinka say BUKU SUMUNA LA. You cannot use urine to wash faeces. You are never clean. You need water to clean oneself not urine.
The very act of treason by seizing power very well negates whatever comes next. Its all about legitimacy. If you live in a glass house, you cannot throw stones. But as mandinka say KUNU KANTALA BUKA YAA JEH.
Its the law and as such it should take its course and if that law had been applied there would not have been an election let alone for him to become president.
I will give you a simple case of Islamic jurisprudence. This happened in the Gambia. A married man had a child out of wedlock. Under Shariah, that man should have been stoned to death. However, the law never applied because we are a democracy, which is fine by me. However, when he died, it was decided that the illegitimate child couldn’t inherit according to Islam. But this illegitimate child is older than many of his half siblings.
There was a lot of fighting to share the wealth. An old man passed by and was asked to adjucate. He asked the gathering if they have ever seen a dead person still capable of making babies. They all shouted no. He told them the shariah they wanted to apply to deny the illegitimate child could only have been so if the father was subjected to Sharia in which case he would have died, and therefore he would not have had any more children.
He told them that these children claiming inheritance are children of a dead man, which is impossible. It was therefore ruled that the illegitimate child would inherit because the shariah that denied him inheritance was never applied on the father, which enabled him to have "legitimate" children. He would have died without these so called legitimate children. An illegal act does not lead to legitimacy.
Therefore a coup does not legitimised a presidency even if that coup led to a government of democracy with the same coup leaders at the top. The variables would become unfair and illegal in the first place. You cannot steal money and ask forgiveness because part of the money was given to poor people. The law does not see what you do with the money, it sees the act of stealing which should not go unpunished in some form.
In Ghana, Rawlings used to celebrate the November revolution just like our July 22nd. But Ghanaians took him to court that he could not celebrate removing a democratically elected government and the citizens won against the state. Because Ghanaians saw it as an attack on democracy and such is not anything to be proud.
But then i remind myself that Ghana is not Gambia where 70% of our population have no education to High school and barely even went to school. Rawlings never celebrated that day again. May i remind you less you forget, the July 22 is modeled on the Ghanaian revolution but Rawlings was quick to tell the soldiers to hand over power to civilian rule which they refused. Unfortunately in the Gambia, July 22 is more important than February 18.
No wonder, he told us that coups are justified means to change a government based on the criteria he gave. A coup is never a justified option in a democracy. No matter how badly governed people might be, one should have faith in the ballot box and legitimately be given the blessing of the majority.
Like the Wolof say: SO BUGEH DON MBAHANA, DANGA NANGO DON DALLA (If you want to be a hat and sit on our heads, you must be prepared to be a shoe in the first place to be trampled on). It’s all about legitimacy.
But you see, even if he had not seized power through a coup, democracy still accords the citizens to participate in the selection of their leaders, which means that divergent views are an integral part of democratic ideals. May be you and I can do this on Bantaba, but i am not sure if we could do this in Yoro Bawol under the mango tree by the health centre. Yoro Bawol may be far from Banjul, but too close for comfort.
Throughout history, democracy only thrives by being vigilant and speaking up and also the entrenchment of freedom of speech, assembly and association.
The freedom of association also guarantees the freedom to not associate with any party in the first place. This freedom to not associate is what gives citizens inalianable rights to form their own political parties. I dont want to turn this into a civic class.
That is why we have presidential elections to re-evaluate performance. The minorities in a democracy who are in opposition are also protected from the majority party through constitutional instruments like freedom of speech, assembly, association, without let or hindrance. They dont have to beg to have these rights enjoyed. It must be given to them without hinderance.
REMEMBER, AN OPPOSITION IS A GOVERNMENT IN WAITING WHILST A GOVERNMENT IS AN OPPOSITION IN WAITING. WHAT GOES AROUND COMES AROUND.
When you walk the ladder of success, please be nice to those you pass along the way, beacuse when you have a free fall, they may stretch out their hands so that you dont have a hard landing on the ground. A nice gesture triggers niceness.
Unfortunately for us, that minority have become "saboteurs" who must be eliminated by all means necessary. Other constitutional protections are that the Gambia must remain a democracy; a key principle that ensures that a majority should not during anytime in the future be able to oppress the minority by seizing all instruments of a democratic state. I dont want to be part of a democracry where there is no opposition nor do I want to be president where the opposition is weak to participate in critical national issues.
But that is human life. We only ask for lenienecy when we loose power. I would sugget you watch the movie titled: "The gods must be crazy" based on the SAN people of the kalahari desert. Play close attention to the fight that the bushman saw between two opposing armies and where one invokes the Geneva Conventions for prisoners of war when he was captured and being ill treated. He however subjected his captors to the same brutality when the tides changed in his favour.
I rest my case.
Konds another good one. Kindly allow me to make few comments.
Jammeh and co came through a coup which is illegal. The system could have been cleansed if the soldiers then handed over to a civil gov't. Despite people coming to lure the soldiers to be turn-coat politicians they should have been honest enough to hand over and go back to barracks. The soldiers(Jammeh and co) are not the only ones responsible, the civilians who talked them into it are also to blame. But as bemoaning slavery and colonialism doesn't help alot, so do lamenting ascession to power in The Gambia. If the politicians had done their homework probably Jammeh and co would have been defeated long ago. PDOIS embarked on political education of the masses close to a decade before they got elected to the NA. Sidia has been tested since in the form of bye-election and the people of Wuli are still confident in him. I believe the removal of the APRC MUST be a gradual process. The structure must be place. Funds must be generated or sought to build the trust of the people at the grassroots. If e.g. an opposition party can iniate viable projects for a locality and sustain them , the gov't propaganda machinery can't hoodwink them by pointing at projects financed by taxpayers monies as their own; in the contrary the opposition can't point out any project atleast as tangible indicator of good things to come if voted into office. The struggle can't be overnight.
The masses be given POLITICAL EDUCATION; PROJECTS no-matter the size must be iniatedto compete the ones being built by gov't with our monies or otherwise; We must be ready to make sacrifices in terms turning away from the crumbs of the APRC and living by what we believe in; the youths must learn to how to earn a living by learning a trade; the success may not be in our lif time but the future generation would be happy and proud of us as trailblazers.
Unlike you konds am not resting my case, ready to go |
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MADIBA
United Kingdom
1275 Posts |
Posted - 02 Jan 2007 : 23:28:51
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quote:
Originally posted by kondorong
quote:
Originally posted by bread man
Santangfara,
Karamba,
Jammeh seized power by the gun and yes that was not constitutional, however, he was later voted in to office democratically and I respect the will of the people. If you were in The Gambia july 94 you would have also supported the change that took place cos the majority of the people did.
This is the problem. Like the mandinka say BUKU SUMUNA LA. You cannot use urine to wash faeces. You are never clean. You need water to clean oneself not urine.
The very act of treason by seizing power very well negates whatever comes next. Its all about legitimacy. If you live in a glass house, you cannot throw stones. But as mandinka say KUNU KANTALA BUKA YAA JEH.
Its the law and as such it should take its course and if that law had been applied there would not have been an election let alone for him to become president.
I will give you a simple case of Islamic jurisprudence. This happened in the Gambia. A married man had a child out of wedlock. Under Shariah, that man should have been stoned to death. However, the law never applied because we are a democracy, which is fine by me. However, when he died, it was decided that the illegitimate child couldn’t inherit according to Islam. But this illegitimate child is older than many of his half siblings.
There was a lot of fighting to share the wealth. An old man passed by and was asked to adjucate. He asked the gathering if they have ever seen a dead person still capable of making babies. They all shouted no. He told them the shariah they wanted to apply to deny the illegitimate child could only have been so if the father was subjected to Sharia in which case he would have died, and therefore he would not have had any more children.
He told them that these children claiming inheritance are children of a dead man, which is impossible. It was therefore ruled that the illegitimate child would inherit because the shariah that denied him inheritance was never applied on the father, which enabled him to have "legitimate" children. He would have died without these so called legitimate children. An illegal act does not lead to legitimacy.
Therefore a coup does not legitimised a presidency even if that coup led to a government of democracy with the same coup leaders at the top. The variables would become unfair and illegal in the first place. You cannot steal money and ask forgiveness because part of the money was given to poor people. The law does not see what you do with the money, it sees the act of stealing which should not go unpunished in some form.
In Ghana, Rawlings used to celebrate the November revolution just like our July 22nd. But Ghanaians took him to court that he could not celebrate removing a democratically elected government and the citizens won against the state. Because Ghanaians saw it as an attack on democracy and such is not anything to be proud.
But then i remind myself that Ghana is not Gambia where 70% of our population have no education to High school and barely even went to school. Rawlings never celebrated that day again. May i remind you less you forget, the July 22 is modeled on the Ghanaian revolution but Rawlings was quick to tell the soldiers to hand over power to civilian rule which they refused. Unfortunately in the Gambia, July 22 is more important than February 18.
No wonder, he told us that coups are justified means to change a government based on the criteria he gave. A coup is never a justified option in a democracy. No matter how badly governed people might be, one should have faith in the ballot box and legitimately be given the blessing of the majority.
Like the Wolof say: SO BUGEH DON MBAHANA, DANGA NANGO DON DALLA (If you want to be a hat and sit on our heads, you must be prepared to be a shoe in the first place to be trampled on). It’s all about legitimacy.
But you see, even if he had not seized power through a coup, democracy still accords the citizens to participate in the selection of their leaders, which means that divergent views are an integral part of democratic ideals. May be you and I can do this on Bantaba, but i am not sure if we could do this in Yoro Bawol under the mango tree by the health centre. Yoro Bawol may be far from Banjul, but too close for comfort.
Throughout history, democracy only thrives by being vigilant and speaking up and also the entrenchment of freedom of speech, assembly and association.
The freedom of association also guarantees the freedom to not associate with any party in the first place. This freedom to not associate is what gives citizens inalianable rights to form their own political parties. I dont want to turn this into a civic class.
That is why we have presidential elections to re-evaluate performance. The minorities in a democracy who are in opposition are also protected from the majority party through constitutional instruments like freedom of speech, assembly, association, without let or hindrance. They dont have to beg to have these rights enjoyed. It must be given to them without hinderance.
REMEMBER, AN OPPOSITION IS A GOVERNMENT IN WAITING WHILST A GOVERNMENT IS AN OPPOSITION IN WAITING. WHAT GOES AROUND COMES AROUND.
When you walk the ladder of success, please be nice to those you pass along the way, beacuse when you have a free fall, they may stretch out their hands so that you dont have a hard landing on the ground. A nice gesture triggers niceness.
Unfortunately for us, that minority have become "saboteurs" who must be eliminated by all means necessary. Other constitutional protections are that the Gambia must remain a democracy; a key principle that ensures that a majority should not during anytime in the future be able to oppress the minority by seizing all instruments of a democratic state. I dont want to be part of a democracry where there is no opposition nor do I want to be president where the opposition is weak to participate in critical national issues.
But that is human life. We only ask for lenienecy when we loose power. I would sugget you watch the movie titled: "The gods must be crazy" based on the SAN people of the kalahari desert. Play close attention to the fight that the bushman saw between two opposing armies and where one invokes the Geneva Conventions for prisoners of war when he was captured and being ill treated. He however subjected his captors to the same brutality when the tides changed in his favour.
I rest my case.
Konds another good one. Kindly allow me to make few comments.
Jammeh and co came through a coup which is illegal. The system could have been cleansed if the soldiers then handed over to a civil gov't. Despite people coming to lure the soldiers to be turn-coat politicians they should have been honest enough to hand over and go back to barracks. The soldiers(Jammeh and co) are not the only ones responsible, the civilians who talked them into it are also to blame. But as bemoaning slavery and colonialism doesn't help alot, so do lamenting ascession to power in The Gambia. If the politicians had done their homework probably Jammeh and co would have been defeated long ago. PDOIS embarked on political education of the masses close to a decade before they got elected to the NA. Sidia has been tested since in the form of bye-election and the people of Wuli are still confident in him. I believe the removal of the APRC MUST be a gradual process. The structure must be place. Funds must be generated or sought to build the trust of the people at the grassroots. If e.g. an opposition party can iniate viable projects for a locality and sustain them , the gov't propaganda machinery can't hoodwink them by pointing at projects financed by taxpayers monies as their own; in the contrary the opposition can't point out any project atleast as tangible indicator of good things to come if voted into office. The struggle can't be overnight.
The masses be given POLITICAL EDUCATION; PROJECTS no-matter the size must be iniatedto compete the ones being built by gov't with our monies or otherwise; We must be ready to make sacrifices in terms turning away from the crumbs of the APRC and living by what we believe in; the youths must learn to how to earn a living by learning a trade; the success may not be in our lif time but the future generation would be happy and proud of us as trailblazers.
Unlike you konds am not resting my case, ready to go |
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Ebra
Gambia
268 Posts |
Posted - 02 Jan 2007 : 23:29:11
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| Won't it be nice too for the oppositions to draft issues that are of national concern and present to the government. If they can think of ways in improving areas where they think there needs to be adjustments to various sectors for their reviews. Gambians should accept that Jammeh is our President and we need to work sincerely with him. Most of the firings you hear are due to incompentency, dishonesty, or abuse of office. Thats the reason you will never hear from those fired. Jammeh has been very kind to Gambians financially and emotionally. We need expertraites like Mr Kond, Santa, Karamba, Momodou, Sister Omega, Kobo, Kayjatta, Breadman, Jambo, and others. There are jobs available, if provided that it will be done with sincerity. Nation cannot develop by sitting behind keyboard, one has to participate financially, physically and mentally. |
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Ebra
Gambia
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Posted - 02 Jan 2007 : 23:29:11
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| Won't it be nice too for the oppositions to draft issues that are of national concern and present to the government. If they can think of ways in improving areas where they think there needs to be adjustments to various sectors for their reviews. Gambians should accept that Jammeh is our President and we need to work sincerely with him. Most of the firings you hear are due to incompentency, dishonesty, or abuse of office. Thats the reason you will never hear from those fired. Jammeh has been very kind to Gambians financially and emotionally. We need expertraites like Mr Kond, Santa, Karamba, Momodou, Sister Omega, Kobo, Kayjatta, Breadman, Jambo, and others. There are jobs available, if provided that it will be done with sincerity. Nation cannot develop by sitting behind keyboard, one has to participate financially, physically and mentally. |
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Karamba
United Kingdom
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Posted - 02 Jan 2007 : 23:32:17
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Kondorong,
When bitter pills are swallowed, belly worms become agitated. The grain of truth you picked is what I still consider the lost treasure of Gambia's body politics. Even if Jammeh builds tower blocks in every village, that is not letting us not to dig into the past and rectify the wrongs. At this stage, I would not want us to get distracted. We have seen the light by this very meaningful contribution of yours. If anyone has the poisoning desire to bury the diamond truth you have revealed, others will stand by to get it shine. On your other concerns, there are several Gambian sites and your types of views fit so good to lack space. Get in touch with BANTABA Admin and you are sure to pick viable sites to share these very rich ideas of yours. More respects. |
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Karamba
United Kingdom
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Posted - 02 Jan 2007 : 23:32:17
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Kondorong,
When bitter pills are swallowed, belly worms become agitated. The grain of truth you picked is what I still consider the lost treasure of Gambia's body politics. Even if Jammeh builds tower blocks in every village, that is not letting us not to dig into the past and rectify the wrongs. At this stage, I would not want us to get distracted. We have seen the light by this very meaningful contribution of yours. If anyone has the poisoning desire to bury the diamond truth you have revealed, others will stand by to get it shine. On your other concerns, there are several Gambian sites and your types of views fit so good to lack space. Get in touch with BANTABA Admin and you are sure to pick viable sites to share these very rich ideas of yours. More respects. |
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