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dbaldeh

USA
934 Posts

Posted - 21 Dec 2006 :  23:17:15  Show Profile  Visit dbaldeh's Homepage Send dbaldeh a Private Message
Mbay, gunner, kon, Dalton, Sab and everyone else, the debate is encouraging. Until we admit being part of the problem, we cannot see ourselves as part of the solution. I believe our nation's identity is GAMBIA and not APRC, NADD, UDP, Jammeh or Jawara. It is time we move beyond partisan politics and focus our positive energy towards uplifting our society.

Someone, somewhere need to start something revolutionary to change the direction we are all heading. The last time I checked, we had some national pride left in us. We must revitalize that pride and put our collective goals over our individual gains.

To archieve anything, we must bring along every Gambian with us especially people on this Bantaba. Our theme must not have an individualistic identity. It must have the pillars of our national flag regardless of who or what you are. I therefore, take the opportunity once again to invite everybody especially the most active on this bantaba to put our brains together and initiate a historic national movement to recapture our national pride.

We would like to hear from experience people like Uncle momodou, Bronx, Madiba, Kobo, Santanfara, Sister Omega, Nyarikangbanna, and those silence readers who have so much to offer but choice to stay away from contributing on the Bantaba. Often, those who are silence have some of the most brilliant ideas that for some reason did not have the opportunity to be heard. People like me are vocal and can dominate a national debate all day and night, but please don't just read and walk away. Bring your ideas as to how we can turn a frest page in our history to embrace the positive and overcome the negative.

I therefore, would suggest from this minute to form charitable organizations through our media outlets to collect funds and find a credible way to invest those funds into our educational system possibly independent of government.

I know people like uncle Momodou already have an educational foundation where schools in Denmark are link with some schools in the Gambia. This can be opened for all Gambians and friends of the Gambia to contribute funds towards this incredible adventure. Those who have foundations already should come forward and open them up.

Online papers like Gainako, Allgambian, GambiaPost, Thegambiaecho, The Gambia Journal etc, should set up charitable funds and establish a committee to manage those funds and invest that into our healthcare system.

Funds can be used to purchase incubators for our hospitals, some can be diverted towards fighting HIV/Aids in the Gambia, others can concentrate on Agriculture, Technical education for our youths etc. Etc. There are so many ways we can chip in to help our nation.

Imagine 100,000 Gambians in the diaspora contribution a minimum of $50 a month for a period of six months to a year. How much can we do with those funds? The logistics and formation can be ironed out once we decide to move on this direction.

Please being in your ideas. It is time we recognized as Kon. put it; "It is about our State and not our government". The government can only do so much good or bad in the absent of the people. A new day and era should take effect in the Gambia. What say you brothers and sisters???

Our children need us, our parents need us, our government need us, and our nation need us. Can we and will we do it????

Baldeh,
"Be the change you want to see in the world" Ghandi
Visit http://www.gainako.com for your daily news and politics
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dbaldeh

USA
934 Posts

Posted - 21 Dec 2006 :  23:17:15  Show Profile  Visit dbaldeh's Homepage Send dbaldeh a Private Message
Mbay, gunner, kon, Dalton, Sab and everyone else, the debate is encouraging. Until we admit being part of the problem, we cannot see ourselves as part of the solution. I believe our nation's identity is GAMBIA and not APRC, NADD, UDP, Jammeh or Jawara. It is time we move beyond partisan politics and focus our positive energy towards uplifting our society.

Someone, somewhere need to start something revolutionary to change the direction we are all heading. The last time I checked, we had some national pride left in us. We must revitalize that pride and put our collective goals over our individual gains.

To archieve anything, we must bring along every Gambian with us especially people on this Bantaba. Our theme must not have an individualistic identity. It must have the pillars of our national flag regardless of who or what you are. I therefore, take the opportunity once again to invite everybody especially the most active on this bantaba to put our brains together and initiate a historic national movement to recapture our national pride.

We would like to hear from experience people like Uncle momodou, Bronx, Madiba, Kobo, Santanfara, Sister Omega, Nyarikangbanna, and those silence readers who have so much to offer but choice to stay away from contributing on the Bantaba. Often, those who are silence have some of the most brilliant ideas that for some reason did not have the opportunity to be heard. People like me are vocal and can dominate a national debate all day and night, but please don't just read and walk away. Bring your ideas as to how we can turn a frest page in our history to embrace the positive and overcome the negative.

I therefore, would suggest from this minute to form charitable organizations through our media outlets to collect funds and find a credible way to invest those funds into our educational system possibly independent of government.

I know people like uncle Momodou already have an educational foundation where schools in Denmark are link with some schools in the Gambia. This can be opened for all Gambians and friends of the Gambia to contribute funds towards this incredible adventure. Those who have foundations already should come forward and open them up.

Online papers like Gainako, Allgambian, GambiaPost, Thegambiaecho, The Gambia Journal etc, should set up charitable funds and establish a committee to manage those funds and invest that into our healthcare system.

Funds can be used to purchase incubators for our hospitals, some can be diverted towards fighting HIV/Aids in the Gambia, others can concentrate on Agriculture, Technical education for our youths etc. Etc. There are so many ways we can chip in to help our nation.

Imagine 100,000 Gambians in the diaspora contribution a minimum of $50 a month for a period of six months to a year. How much can we do with those funds? The logistics and formation can be ironed out once we decide to move on this direction.

Please being in your ideas. It is time we recognized as Kon. put it; "It is about our State and not our government". The government can only do so much good or bad in the absent of the people. A new day and era should take effect in the Gambia. What say you brothers and sisters???

Our children need us, our parents need us, our government need us, and our nation need us. Can we and will we do it????

Baldeh,
"Be the change you want to see in the world" Ghandi
Visit http://www.gainako.com for your daily news and politics
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shaka



996 Posts

Posted - 22 Dec 2006 :  03:37:57  Show Profile Send shaka a Private Message
"The WASSCE results this year where 25 students out of 3358 attain nine credits is an example"(Sab) Yet the secretary of state for education is hanging onto her job as if she were a miracle worker. Isn't this suppose to be the failure of the decade. How she is still holding onto her job in a fully air condition office, lapping up to D15,000 a month, a spanking new car and other benefits is beyond me. Doesn't the above results qualify a minister to be sacked? This is incompetency of the highest order.


Looking at the obove statistic one can be forgiven if he or she hold her head and weep because the future of our children look so bleak in the hands of this administation. What are we doing to our children?. The fact that it is hardly given any press in the Gambia is even more worrisome. This is criminal!! We go on our everyday lives like everything is fine even in the wake of such a national disaster.


The biggest question is how did this happen? The answer is very simple indeed. The fat cats at the education department sat on their fattened bottoms boasting about a record number of school, enough teachers(mostly people from the subregion, whose qualification is probably not thoroughly vetted in the first place) and salaries are paid, therefore their job is done. Pupils are not adequately prepared for examination because of poor teaching standard and low qulitity assessment through out the years. They are only assessed on the final year examinations by which time it is already too late and they would have already got poor grades on their certificates such as WASSCE to determine their future. I mean assesment is not a continuous process because the people at the top assumed everyting is OK, while tucking in their priviledges.



If only 5% of of let's say grade nine students can attain only 9 credits in their final year exams then it surely means a similar number attained similar results in their first term, second term and mock examinations. That is when alarm bells should have ringing, because it definitely means pupils were ill prepared for thier final year exams and measures be taken to help pupils at the right time. Unfortunately the scum bags at the education department don't even realise this. They don't even have data and statistics of individual schools' exams performances. They only gauged performance from WASSCE results.


I know bugdets are tight and resources limited for goverment department but a little bit of efforts and forsight to co-ordinate the activities of individual schools with the necessary goverment department will help students alot. Take the scenario of grade students in say Kanilai Junior Secondary school(does it exist?). Get the school to send all data and statistic of first term exams results with atleast 30 random work samples of individual students(i said this because exams are not sometimes marked fairly by teachers for one reason or the other) to asses standards of marking as well as general performance to department of education. If after this first term assesment only 5% of students can manage 9 credits then it means, there is a serious problem in Kanilai Junior school. Some one got to pay a visit to the principal as well as the school board to see where things went wrong, also to let them know their standard is unacceptable, you expect better performance next term. More like an external auditing. This should be followed up, with the same procedure for the second term as well as the mock exams to ensure that students are fully prepared. If there is such assesment measures in place for all schools then i don't think such a national disaster will ever happen. Just my mind.
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shaka



996 Posts

Posted - 22 Dec 2006 :  03:37:57  Show Profile Send shaka a Private Message
"The WASSCE results this year where 25 students out of 3358 attain nine credits is an example"(Sab) Yet the secretary of state for education is hanging onto her job as if she were a miracle worker. Isn't this suppose to be the failure of the decade. How she is still holding onto her job in a fully air condition office, lapping up to D15,000 a month, a spanking new car and other benefits is beyond me. Doesn't the above results qualify a minister to be sacked? This is incompetency of the highest order.


Looking at the obove statistic one can be forgiven if he or she hold her head and weep because the future of our children look so bleak in the hands of this administation. What are we doing to our children?. The fact that it is hardly given any press in the Gambia is even more worrisome. This is criminal!! We go on our everyday lives like everything is fine even in the wake of such a national disaster.


The biggest question is how did this happen? The answer is very simple indeed. The fat cats at the education department sat on their fattened bottoms boasting about a record number of school, enough teachers(mostly people from the subregion, whose qualification is probably not thoroughly vetted in the first place) and salaries are paid, therefore their job is done. Pupils are not adequately prepared for examination because of poor teaching standard and low qulitity assessment through out the years. They are only assessed on the final year examinations by which time it is already too late and they would have already got poor grades on their certificates such as WASSCE to determine their future. I mean assesment is not a continuous process because the people at the top assumed everyting is OK, while tucking in their priviledges.



If only 5% of of let's say grade nine students can attain only 9 credits in their final year exams then it surely means a similar number attained similar results in their first term, second term and mock examinations. That is when alarm bells should have ringing, because it definitely means pupils were ill prepared for thier final year exams and measures be taken to help pupils at the right time. Unfortunately the scum bags at the education department don't even realise this. They don't even have data and statistics of individual schools' exams performances. They only gauged performance from WASSCE results.


I know bugdets are tight and resources limited for goverment department but a little bit of efforts and forsight to co-ordinate the activities of individual schools with the necessary goverment department will help students alot. Take the scenario of grade students in say Kanilai Junior Secondary school(does it exist?). Get the school to send all data and statistic of first term exams results with atleast 30 random work samples of individual students(i said this because exams are not sometimes marked fairly by teachers for one reason or the other) to asses standards of marking as well as general performance to department of education. If after this first term assesment only 5% of students can manage 9 credits then it means, there is a serious problem in Kanilai Junior school. Some one got to pay a visit to the principal as well as the school board to see where things went wrong, also to let them know their standard is unacceptable, you expect better performance next term. More like an external auditing. This should be followed up, with the same procedure for the second term as well as the mock exams to ensure that students are fully prepared. If there is such assesment measures in place for all schools then i don't think such a national disaster will ever happen. Just my mind.
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Santanfara



3460 Posts

Posted - 22 Dec 2006 :  06:48:45  Show Profile  Visit Santanfara's Homepage Send Santanfara a Private Message
dbaldeh i fully back your noble proposal without any conditions. education and human development most go hand in hand before we can even be able to get over the selfish style of politics in the gambia.
the lack of proper will in the part of our politicians is the major reason for my lack of involvement in any political parties in the gambia. we need a new method ,not old fashion jawara era recycling .as you said we need to come together as a unit and sort out the mess. i am involve in private sponsoring of individual students but this are people close to me and sometimes when i visit the gambia and driving down the road i see hundreds of students who don't have any sense of direction.
an initiative were we look after students without any ties will be brilliant.let us let fly.
i am ready to chep-in. may allah make the idea hold water.amen.

Surah- Ar-Rum 30-22
"And among His signs is the creation of heavens and the earth, and the difference of your languages and colours. verily, in that are indeed signs for men of sound knowledge." Qu'ran

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Santanfara



3460 Posts

Posted - 22 Dec 2006 :  06:48:45  Show Profile  Visit Santanfara's Homepage Send Santanfara a Private Message
dbaldeh i fully back your noble proposal without any conditions. education and human development most go hand in hand before we can even be able to get over the selfish style of politics in the gambia.
the lack of proper will in the part of our politicians is the major reason for my lack of involvement in any political parties in the gambia. we need a new method ,not old fashion jawara era recycling .as you said we need to come together as a unit and sort out the mess. i am involve in private sponsoring of individual students but this are people close to me and sometimes when i visit the gambia and driving down the road i see hundreds of students who don't have any sense of direction.
an initiative were we look after students without any ties will be brilliant.let us let fly.
i am ready to chep-in. may allah make the idea hold water.amen.

Surah- Ar-Rum 30-22
"And among His signs is the creation of heavens and the earth, and the difference of your languages and colours. verily, in that are indeed signs for men of sound knowledge." Qu'ran

www.suntoumana.blogspot.com
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bread man



300 Posts

Posted - 22 Dec 2006 :  16:06:12  Show Profile Send bread man a Private Message
Yeah Sab, i agree with you about having a fund for this school children instead of crisizing all and everything the govīt does. Am ready to contribute the small that i can.

It is the mark of intelligence to entertain an idea without accepting it.
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bread man



300 Posts

Posted - 22 Dec 2006 :  16:06:12  Show Profile Send bread man a Private Message
Yeah Sab, i agree with you about having a fund for this school children instead of crisizing all and everything the govīt does. Am ready to contribute the small that i can.

It is the mark of intelligence to entertain an idea without accepting it.
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MADIBA



United Kingdom
1275 Posts

Posted - 22 Dec 2006 :  18:49:26  Show Profile Send MADIBA a Private Message


Like the French people say: "Petite a petit le choiseau fait son nit"

By the way i have no degree. I am still in school

KONDS, the French never said that may it is serahule french What the French is Petit a Petit L'oiseau fait son nid
If you went to Armitage am sure ABUA King never taught you that

By the way are you serious that you hold no degree or is it a sign of humility common A NYA NGA MOO. I suspect you are PhD

madiss
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MADIBA



United Kingdom
1275 Posts

Posted - 22 Dec 2006 :  18:49:26  Show Profile Send MADIBA a Private Message


Like the French people say: "Petite a petit le choiseau fait son nit"

By the way i have no degree. I am still in school

KONDS, the French never said that may it is serahule french What the French is Petit a Petit L'oiseau fait son nid
If you went to Armitage am sure ABUA King never taught you that

By the way are you serious that you hold no degree or is it a sign of humility common A NYA NGA MOO. I suspect you are PhD

madiss
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kondorong



Gambia
4380 Posts

Posted - 22 Dec 2006 :  20:52:17  Show Profile Send kondorong a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by MADIBA



Like the French people say: "Petite a petit le choiseau fait son nit"

By the way i have no degree. I am still in school

KONDS, the French never said that may it is serahule french What the French is Petit a Petit L'oiseau fait son nid
If you went to Armitage am sure ABUA King never taught you that

By the way are you serious that you hold no degree or is it a sign of humility common A NYA NGA MOO. I suspect you are PhD



Seriously i hold no degree. I went to night school at WEC Mission in Wellingara. Please try them. they are very good. I hope to do a correpondence Diploma couse with the Open University in UK.

Sorry about my French spellings. I was never good in French at High School.

Pardon Monsieur. Do you remember the French Text book Ngoulou that was prescribed for students

I rememeber Abua King. He should be retired by now. The last time i checked he worked at the ministrty of Education. He liked to use the word "LOOK" a lot.
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kondorong



Gambia
4380 Posts

Posted - 22 Dec 2006 :  20:52:17  Show Profile Send kondorong a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by MADIBA



Like the French people say: "Petite a petit le choiseau fait son nit"

By the way i have no degree. I am still in school

KONDS, the French never said that may it is serahule french What the French is Petit a Petit L'oiseau fait son nid
If you went to Armitage am sure ABUA King never taught you that

By the way are you serious that you hold no degree or is it a sign of humility common A NYA NGA MOO. I suspect you are PhD



Seriously i hold no degree. I went to night school at WEC Mission in Wellingara. Please try them. they are very good. I hope to do a correpondence Diploma couse with the Open University in UK.

Sorry about my French spellings. I was never good in French at High School.

Pardon Monsieur. Do you remember the French Text book Ngoulou that was prescribed for students

I rememeber Abua King. He should be retired by now. The last time i checked he worked at the ministrty of Education. He liked to use the word "LOOK" a lot.
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MADIBA



United Kingdom
1275 Posts

Posted - 22 Dec 2006 :  22:01:08  Show Profile Send MADIBA a Private Message
Konds i take your answer for my christmas present. Not so?
Yea ABUA last known station was Ministry of Education. I hope he is still alive.

madiss

Edited by - MADIBA on 22 Dec 2006 22:01:47
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MADIBA



United Kingdom
1275 Posts

Posted - 22 Dec 2006 :  22:01:08  Show Profile Send MADIBA a Private Message
Konds i take your answer for my christmas present. Not so?
Yea ABUA last known station was Ministry of Education. I hope he is still alive.

madiss

Edited by - MADIBA on 22 Dec 2006 22:01:47
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kondorong



Gambia
4380 Posts

Posted - 22 Dec 2006 :  22:07:52  Show Profile Send kondorong a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by MADIBA

Konds i take your answer for my christmas present. Not so?
Yea ABUA last known station was Ministry of Education. I hope he is still alive.



Happy Christams to you
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