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Ebra
Gambia
268 Posts |
 Posted - 19 Jan 2007 : 21:24:42
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| With Jammeh curing HIV and Asthma shows that even his grandkids won't be poor. He will earn a whole lot of money for curing. I am now confidence that Jammeh can do anything, ranging from dissappearing, changing himself to anything he wants. |
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Ebra
Gambia
268 Posts |
Posted - 19 Jan 2007 : 21:24:42
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| With Jammeh curing HIV and Asthma shows that even his grandkids won't be poor. He will earn a whole lot of money for curing. I am now confidence that Jammeh can do anything, ranging from dissappearing, changing himself to anything he wants. |
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Santanfara
3460 Posts |
Posted - 19 Jan 2007 : 21:40:11
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Originally posted by Ebra
With Jammeh curing HIV and Asthma shows that even his grandkids won't be poor. He will earn a whole lot of money for curing. I am now confidence that Jammeh can do anything, ranging from dissappearing, changing himself to anything he wants.
Ebra i will table a motion for bantaba to ban you . the place for humour is there don't try pulling peoples legs. if you are a muslim and you strongly believe that yaya is able to do every thing ,then brother you need to check your akida. you may be misleading your self .Allah does not entertain jokes about his supremeness. he is the only being that can do all things. tell yaya to repay all the millions of dollars he brow from world bank and imf if he can do every thing. my friends are working on a world bank project in the accountant general so that world bank can remote control us day and night. that is what should be worrying you not yaya's insanity. |
Surah- Ar-Rum 30-22
"And among His signs is the creation of heavens and the earth, and the difference of your languages and colours. verily, in that are indeed signs for men of sound knowledge." Qu'ran
www.suntoumana.blogspot.com |
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Santanfara
3460 Posts |
Posted - 19 Jan 2007 : 21:40:11
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Originally posted by Ebra
With Jammeh curing HIV and Asthma shows that even his grandkids won't be poor. He will earn a whole lot of money for curing. I am now confidence that Jammeh can do anything, ranging from dissappearing, changing himself to anything he wants.
Ebra i will table a motion for bantaba to ban you . the place for humour is there don't try pulling peoples legs. if you are a muslim and you strongly believe that yaya is able to do every thing ,then brother you need to check your akida. you may be misleading your self .Allah does not entertain jokes about his supremeness. he is the only being that can do all things. tell yaya to repay all the millions of dollars he brow from world bank and imf if he can do every thing. my friends are working on a world bank project in the accountant general so that world bank can remote control us day and night. that is what should be worrying you not yaya's insanity. |
Surah- Ar-Rum 30-22
"And among His signs is the creation of heavens and the earth, and the difference of your languages and colours. verily, in that are indeed signs for men of sound knowledge." Qu'ran
www.suntoumana.blogspot.com |
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kondorong
Gambia
4380 Posts |
Posted - 19 Jan 2007 : 22:29:31
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Originally posted by Karamba
Kondorong,
You forgot that Yorobawol is in the Upper River Division (URD)several kilometers north of Basse. The Health Centre there is strategically located and one of its type in the area. It is centres like that needing upgrading and not the multiplication of new buildings without regular supply of paracetamol.
Sorry for the typo. Its URD. I think ist now called URR
Things change so fast these days. |
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kondorong
Gambia
4380 Posts |
Posted - 19 Jan 2007 : 22:29:31
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Originally posted by Karamba
Kondorong,
You forgot that Yorobawol is in the Upper River Division (URD)several kilometers north of Basse. The Health Centre there is strategically located and one of its type in the area. It is centres like that needing upgrading and not the multiplication of new buildings without regular supply of paracetamol.
Sorry for the typo. Its URD. I think ist now called URR
Things change so fast these days. |
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Ebra
Gambia
268 Posts |
Posted - 19 Jan 2007 : 23:49:13
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My friend Sant. you said you will table a motion for me to be ban from bantaba. Okay, if you wish,I CARELESS,I know if your motion goes through, it will give me clear indication that you and your supporters are not democratic. Remember, freedom of speech, I guess this is what you have been crying all along.
If am censored, I will join/ be hire by the pro Jammeh online papers such as PROGRESSIVEAFRICANS.COM.
Let me tell you Jammeh's world Bank. "BATADUM SHAHASU WURAHU" WITH THIS VERSE, IF YOU KNOW HOW TO USE IT, YOU CAN HAVE MONEY ANYTIME, ANYWHERE YOU WANT. BUT REMEMBER IT GOES WITH CERTAIN STUFFS WHICH I WILL NOT ELABORATE ON.
DEMOCRACRY MEANS FREEDOM OF SPEECH AS FAR AS YOU DON'T TRAMPLE THE LAW. |
Edited by - Ebra on 19 Jan 2007 23:56:29 |
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Ebra
Gambia
268 Posts |
Posted - 19 Jan 2007 : 23:49:13
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My friend Sant. you said you will table a motion for me to be ban from bantaba. Okay, if you wish,I CARELESS,I know if your motion goes through, it will give me clear indication that you and your supporters are not democratic. Remember, freedom of speech, I guess this is what you have been crying all along.
If am censored, I will join/ be hire by the pro Jammeh online papers such as PROGRESSIVEAFRICANS.COM.
Let me tell you Jammeh's world Bank. "BATADUM SHAHASU WURAHU" WITH THIS VERSE, IF YOU KNOW HOW TO USE IT, YOU CAN HAVE MONEY ANYTIME, ANYWHERE YOU WANT. BUT REMEMBER IT GOES WITH CERTAIN STUFFS WHICH I WILL NOT ELABORATE ON.
DEMOCRACRY MEANS FREEDOM OF SPEECH AS FAR AS YOU DON'T TRAMPLE THE LAW. |
Edited by - Ebra on 19 Jan 2007 23:56:29 |
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Karamba
United Kingdom
3820 Posts |
Posted - 20 Jan 2007 : 00:06:31
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Kondorong,
You have opened another avenue on the subject of name changes. I despise using the new names introduced by the APRC. I prefer calling McCarthy Square, Hagan Street, Marina Parade etc. I see nothing wrong with retaining these names which to me symbolises heritage and authentic documentation. Like not many will want to change their family names, it makes little or no sense to change town, village, street, or regional names. The APRC regime could do more than change street, town, and regional names. Commisioners renamed governors, Lower River Division renamed Lower River Region, CRR, NRR, etc. What do we do with all the documents and blank letterheads bearing these abandoned names? This may look outside the current topic. I still think there's something to explore on this subject. |
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Karamba
United Kingdom
3820 Posts |
Posted - 20 Jan 2007 : 00:06:31
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Kondorong,
You have opened another avenue on the subject of name changes. I despise using the new names introduced by the APRC. I prefer calling McCarthy Square, Hagan Street, Marina Parade etc. I see nothing wrong with retaining these names which to me symbolises heritage and authentic documentation. Like not many will want to change their family names, it makes little or no sense to change town, village, street, or regional names. The APRC regime could do more than change street, town, and regional names. Commisioners renamed governors, Lower River Division renamed Lower River Region, CRR, NRR, etc. What do we do with all the documents and blank letterheads bearing these abandoned names? This may look outside the current topic. I still think there's something to explore on this subject. |
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Santanfara
3460 Posts |
Posted - 20 Jan 2007 : 06:57:30
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Originally posted by Ebra
My friend Sant. you said you will table a motion for me to be ban from bantaba. Okay, if you wish,I CARELESS,I know if your motion goes through, it will give me clear indication that you and your supporters are not democratic. Remember, freedom of speech, I guess this is what you have been crying all along.
If am censored, I will join/ be hire by the pro Jammeh online papers such as PROGRESSIVEAFRICANS.COM.
Let me tell you Jammeh's world Bank. "BATADUM SHAHASU WURAHU" WITH THIS VERSE, IF YOU KNOW HOW TO USE IT, YOU CAN HAVE MONEY ANYTIME, ANYWHERE YOU WANT. BUT REMEMBER IT GOES WITH CERTAIN STUFFS WHICH I WILL NOT ELABORATE ON.
DEMOCRACRY MEANS FREEDOM OF SPEECH AS FAR AS YOU DON'T TRAMPLE THE LAW.
no wonder you are following mad jammeh's spritual banwagond. if it is so easy as you said then god help us. i suspect you most be rich then with this sort of verses. i for one believe in hard work and financial decscipline not some made-up verses to trick people . then give this verse to jammeh to pay-off our huge loans ,help the farmers with all necessary tools and fertalisers and not forgetting increasing the wages of the bartered civil servants .i don't need a penny or butu from your batatum and so on. this is why i detest sufism. they make people believe they have some hidden powers which most of the time turnout to be evil omens nothing to help us change our cicumstances.
i did not hate free speech but you need to obey the proper order. say good things about yaya ,that is your opinion bro but don't continue making jokes. in most work places practical jokes is an offence. we are genuinely concerned for our country ,so let the debate be healthy. yaya have so many supporters on the forum but no one refuse them there voice. be a genuine debater. i love you with all my heart ,you could even be my brother who knows . i love and respect every single gambian no matter what political affiliation one has. we are one family . the yaya's misrule is affecting every one .believe it or not. wasalam. bro do away with those batadums please. follwo the sunnah and the quran and the salaf.
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Surah- Ar-Rum 30-22
"And among His signs is the creation of heavens and the earth, and the difference of your languages and colours. verily, in that are indeed signs for men of sound knowledge." Qu'ran
www.suntoumana.blogspot.com |
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Santanfara
3460 Posts |
Posted - 20 Jan 2007 : 06:57:30
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Originally posted by Ebra
My friend Sant. you said you will table a motion for me to be ban from bantaba. Okay, if you wish,I CARELESS,I know if your motion goes through, it will give me clear indication that you and your supporters are not democratic. Remember, freedom of speech, I guess this is what you have been crying all along.
If am censored, I will join/ be hire by the pro Jammeh online papers such as PROGRESSIVEAFRICANS.COM.
Let me tell you Jammeh's world Bank. "BATADUM SHAHASU WURAHU" WITH THIS VERSE, IF YOU KNOW HOW TO USE IT, YOU CAN HAVE MONEY ANYTIME, ANYWHERE YOU WANT. BUT REMEMBER IT GOES WITH CERTAIN STUFFS WHICH I WILL NOT ELABORATE ON.
DEMOCRACRY MEANS FREEDOM OF SPEECH AS FAR AS YOU DON'T TRAMPLE THE LAW.
no wonder you are following mad jammeh's spritual banwagond. if it is so easy as you said then god help us. i suspect you most be rich then with this sort of verses. i for one believe in hard work and financial decscipline not some made-up verses to trick people . then give this verse to jammeh to pay-off our huge loans ,help the farmers with all necessary tools and fertalisers and not forgetting increasing the wages of the bartered civil servants .i don't need a penny or butu from your batatum and so on. this is why i detest sufism. they make people believe they have some hidden powers which most of the time turnout to be evil omens nothing to help us change our cicumstances.
i did not hate free speech but you need to obey the proper order. say good things about yaya ,that is your opinion bro but don't continue making jokes. in most work places practical jokes is an offence. we are genuinely concerned for our country ,so let the debate be healthy. yaya have so many supporters on the forum but no one refuse them there voice. be a genuine debater. i love you with all my heart ,you could even be my brother who knows . i love and respect every single gambian no matter what political affiliation one has. we are one family . the yaya's misrule is affecting every one .believe it or not. wasalam. bro do away with those batadums please. follwo the sunnah and the quran and the salaf.
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Surah- Ar-Rum 30-22
"And among His signs is the creation of heavens and the earth, and the difference of your languages and colours. verily, in that are indeed signs for men of sound knowledge." Qu'ran
www.suntoumana.blogspot.com |
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Ebra
Gambia
268 Posts |
Posted - 20 Jan 2007 : 08:23:10
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| Sorry Santa. if you feel offended. I will not bring any joke anymore. No more Jammeh praises. Am flexible, and I do listen to others view. But, I guess if he proves himself, he should just give up power and concerntrate on treating patients. |
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Ebra
Gambia
268 Posts |
Posted - 20 Jan 2007 : 08:23:10
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| Sorry Santa. if you feel offended. I will not bring any joke anymore. No more Jammeh praises. Am flexible, and I do listen to others view. But, I guess if he proves himself, he should just give up power and concerntrate on treating patients. |
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Cornelius
Sweden
1051 Posts |
Posted - 20 Jan 2007 : 18:42:49
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Originally posted by SANTANFARA
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Originally posted by Ebra
My friend Sant. you said you will table a motion for me to be ban from bantaba. Okay, if you wish,I CARELESS,I know if your motion goes through, it will give me clear indication that you and your supporters are not democratic. Remember, freedom of speech, I guess this is what you have been crying all along.
If am censored, I will join/ be hire by the pro Jammeh online papers such as PROGRESSIVEAFRICANS.COM.
Let me tell you Jammeh's world Bank. "BATADUM SHAHASU WURAHU" WITH THIS VERSE, IF YOU KNOW HOW TO USE IT, YOU CAN HAVE MONEY ANYTIME, ANYWHERE YOU WANT. BUT REMEMBER IT GOES WITH CERTAIN STUFFS WHICH I WILL NOT ELABORATE ON.
DEMOCRACRY MEANS FREEDOM OF SPEECH AS FAR AS YOU DON'T TRAMPLE THE LAW.
no wonder you are following mad jammeh's spritual banwagond. if it is so easy as you said then god help us. i suspect you most be rich then with this sort of verses. i for one believe in hard work and financial decscipline not some made-up verses to trick people . then give this verse to jammeh to pay-off our huge loans ,help the farmers with all necessary tools and fertalisers and not forgetting increasing the wages of the bartered civil servants .i don't need a penny or butu from your batatum and so on. this is why i detest sufism. they make people believe they have some hidden powers which most of the time turnout to be evil omens nothing to help us change our cicumstances. i did not hate free speech but you need to obey the proper order. say good things about yaya ,that is your opinion bro but don't continue making jokes. in most work places practical jokes is an offence. we are genuinely concerned for our country ,so let the debate be healthy. yaya have so many supporters on the forum but no one refuse them there voice. be a genuine debater. i love you with all my heart ,you could even be my brother who knows . i love and respect every single gambian no matter what political affiliation one has. we are one family . the yaya's misrule is affecting every one .believe it or not. wasalam. bro do away with those batadums please. follwo the sunnah and the quran and the salaf.
Dear Santanfara,
It’s a sad day on this Bantaba Forum to read a son of the soil saying” this is why i detest sufism. they make people believe they have some hidden powers which most of the time turnout to be evil omens nothing to help us change our cicumstances.”
Here is good advice:
http://erfan-gonabadi.com/Publications/PANDI-SALEH/body_pandi-saleh.html
Unfortunately, superstitions have crept into Islamised West African cultures and some people approach Marabouts in the same way that the Mushrikin approach the Medicine man and the "Witch doctor" or some idols for a talisman or charms to cure their worldy problems - but it is the Almighty Who is the source of all blessings.
http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=MARABOUTS&btnG=Google+Search&meta=
West African Maraboutism has led some people to depend on certain Marabouts - instead of having Tawakkul.
http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=Tawakkul&btnG=Google+Search&meta=
The Salafis – and in particular Sheikh Muhammad ibn Abdul Wahhab’s ”Kitab al-Tawhid” would class that kind of dependency under the classification of SHIRK – or depending on other than God.
This type of belief in the Sheikh as intercessor, protector, giver of Baraka, sawab, money, good fortune, political power, popularity etc is questionable.
If you haven’t done so, then it’s worthwhile to read it and then be in a position to have a perspective on what you have read. Here it is
”Kitab al-Tawhid:
http://islamicweb.com/beliefs/creed/abdulwahab/
http://www.answers.com/topic/muhammad-ibn-abd-al-wahhab
As I read on page 65 of ”Insights in the Torah – Shemos” a commentary by Rabbi Zalman Sorotzkin:
http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=%E2%80%9DInsights+in+the+Torah+%22+Rabbi+Zalman+Sorotzkin&btnG=Search&meta=
”Why does the name HASHEM signify fulfilling promises? We can explain that a man of flesh and blood can promise, but may not be able to fulfil, because when the time comes he is no longer in the world, as the Torah says, ” Do not trust in great men.....his spirit leaves him.....his plans are lost” ( Tehillim146.3-4). This is not the case with one”whose hope is in HASHEM.....Who keeps truth forever.” (ibid); he can be sure that the promise will be kept no matter how much time elapses, for He lives and endures forever:”He was, He is; and He will be”. And that is what the Name of Existence refers to.”
One more thing: The discussions initiated by you (wanna rumble) and spearheaded by Karamba, Dalton etc. In my humble opinion, let me say that there is no evidence or cause to view the young president of the Gambia Alhaji Dr. Yahya Jammeh as a Pharaoh or one deserving of such a title as the Pharaoh of the Gambia.
Far from it, be he.
And in our criticism of him or anybody let us try to be fair, if not sympathetic.
To be that and to be human, we do not necessarily need a distinguished ancestry going back all the way to Aba Abraham,Isaac, Jacob and the Twelve Tribes, nor do we have to be direct descendants of Kunta Kinte to have brotherly love for our Gambian brothers and sisters, to be always sympathetic to them and to raise our voices in outrage not only at the Holocaust which the Nazis and their supporters visited upon the Jewish people, but also at each and every transgression of the rights of all those others who the Almighty, Blessed be He, created in His own image and likeness.
I intend to take this matter up in the WORLD POLITICS section, as I translate and paraphrase relevant parts of Bitte Hammargren’s article which appeared in Friday’s Svenska Dagbladet, in which, having mentioned “Professor David Menashri, one of Israel’s leading experts on Iran and director of the Centre for Iran Studies at the University of Tel Aviv” she states that “The Iranian-born David Menashri opposes the Likud leader Bibi Netanyahu's speech in which he describes Ahmadinejad as a new Hitler”
http://www.svd.se/dynamiskt/utrikes/did_14458709.asp
Bitte Hammargren’s reason she says, is “I’d never call Ahmadinejad a Hitler. Not that Iran’s president is a nice person but because we would trivialise the Holocaust if we equate him with Hitler.”
For similar reasons, any demonization of Yahya Jammeh, who, compared to Ahmadinejad is by far a much nicer guy (in fact 'dinejad is not at all nice) and so comparisons are a matter of scale and in some cases a comparison of INTENTIONS (and as every good Muslim knows,
“ A man is judged by his intentions!” - This Bitte Hammargren probably does not KNOW but she does KNOW that Din-ejad wants to “Wipe out “Israel from the map and therefore she should know better than to not compare him to Hitler.
All of us know the saying that "A man is judged by the company he keeps" and (all of us here in Bantaba are in one way or another “birds of the same feather” and therefore Jammeh, 'Jinedad and Chavez are in some ways birds of similar feathers (and we are to suppose best of friends). Now we know that the Honourable president Jammeh has sent some noble Gambian soldiers to Darfur. But when the sheet hits the fan in Iran, will he indeed be sending some of his 800 regular troops to defend his friend in need?
In case you or anyone else thinks that I have anything against the Shia, then you are gravely mistaken.
Now that I have been given marching orders at work ( and of late the atmosphere has become unbearably racist in certain quarters, but more about that later here and elsewhere in unforgettable descriptions), within a month I intend to show you in brief outline the kind of job that I would do today ( verbally) or that I could have done in 1746 – when Shah Nader had that debate between Sunni and Shia, which the Shia are supposed to have “lost” and with regard to refutations of that Hadith and its understanding and applicability, in doing so with an assured Shia stand, to throw light upon light on this Hadith and with which the Sun is in deep soup, if indeed the Hadith is authentic.
" 1- He said, "First, I should like to ask you a question: Hadrat Prophet 'sall-allahu alaihi wasallam' stated as follows about Ali ibn Abi Talib 'radi-allahu anh': 'Whatever Harun (Aaron) was in relation to Musa (Moses), you are the same with relation to me. The only difference is that no Prophet shall come after me.' You, too, know this hadith."
"Yes. In fact, it is widely known," I said.
He said, "This hadith ash-Sharif shows that Imam-i-Ali should be the Khalifa after hadrat Prophet."
"How is that," I asked.
He said, "It is pointed out that the position of Imam-i-Ali in relation to the Prophet is identical with that of Harun to Musa. The only exception is stated to be "Yet no Prophet shall come after me." For this reason, hadrat Ali should be the first Khalifa. Had Harun's lifetime not ended, he would have succeeded Musa."
http://www.hizmetbooks.org/Documents_of_the_Right_Word/1.htm |
Edited by - Cornelius on 20 Jan 2007 19:50:19 |
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