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Sister Omega
United Kingdom
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 Posted - 07 Dec 2006 : 23:30:55
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Bev West Africa is still included within this equation, as I said before the Ancient Egyptian migrated both westwards and eastwards. The Queen of Sheba stretched as far west to Nigeria. The Youroba Ethnic Group originate from the Nile Delta, The Fulas originate from Ancient Egypt, The Masai originate from the Nile etc.
When the son of king Solomon was anointed ... "he went out from the house of the LORD. They called him David for the name of af a king came by him by law. And they made for him to ride upon a mule of King Solomon, and they led him round about the city, and said " we have appointed thee from this moment"; and then they cried out to him, " Bah ( long) live the royal father!" ... " It is meet and right thy dominion of Ethiopia ahall be from the River of Egypt to the west of the sun(i.e to the setting of the sun); blessed be they seed upon the earth! and from Shoa to the East of India, for thou shalt please( the people of these lands).p53 THE kebra Negast ISBN0-94839-042-5. Ol maps show the west coast of Africa being depicted as the Ethiopian Ocean see map for 1732." Ethiopia shall bow before Him, and his enemies shall eat dust"... Ethiopia shall stretch her hands to God... behold.... the people of Ethiopia who were born without The Law. The Law will be given to them, and they shall say unto Zion . " Our Mother" because of a man shall be born." Will this man then be my son is begotten of me? p74.THE kebra Negast.
Kons from what I gather that King David or Menelik and his entourage were escorted by Michael The Archangel... he spread out his wings and made them march through the sea as upon dry land, and upon the dry land he cut a path for them and spreading himself out like a cloud over them he hid them from the fiery sun...p77
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Sister Omega
United Kingdom
2085 Posts |
Posted - 07 Dec 2006 : 23:41:46
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Njucks even St George is Ethiopian. When did you ever hear that England had Dragons? George is Gorgis in Ethiopia.http://www.photographersdirect.com/stockphotography/s/saint_george.asp.
the analogy is a bit like the Halifax advert in Britain initial it was an African in the commercial who then became a puppet and now is a animation who gets lighter each time he's shown in 5 years time he'll be white.
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gambiabev
United Kingdom
3091 Posts |
Posted - 08 Dec 2006 : 08:16:21
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Sister O..... I dont believe in Angels!!
This is exactly what I mean. History and religion are NOT ABSOLUTE FACTS.
For example, I might accept that Jesus was born in Bethlehem. But that isnt not the same thing as believing he came from a virgin birth (REALLY?!) or that he is son of GOD.
Sometimes sister you are guilty of writing your opinion as if it is an absolute fact. It isnt, its just your view. There are very few absolutes in this world!
You are obviously a very well read and intelligent person and I am interested to learn more from you, but can you do it without the LECTURING tone to your postings?!
Bantaba is about us all sharing information and discussing things. Sometimes I note a superior tone to your postings as if you are the teacher and we are all here to learn from you?!
Like I say, I am interested in your postings, but dont just blindly accept everything you say as fact. I MEAN, ANGELS!!!!!
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gambiabev
United Kingdom
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Posted - 08 Dec 2006 : 08:20:54
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Sister Omega, what would you say is the 'natural' religion of Gambia then? I THOUGHT it was animist. I THOUGHT alot of Jola people still have some of those beliefs. I STILL dont think Christianity OR Islam are organic to Gambia. They have both been imposed from outside.
In England people were originally Pagan and then gradually Christianity took over alot of the traditional celebrations and festivals. It feels to be as if Islam has done the same in Gambia. It has separated people from their natural beliefs and imposed ALLAH. |
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Sister Omega
United Kingdom
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Posted - 08 Dec 2006 : 10:44:09
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For the record gambiabev I am a Teacher, and obviously each and every one has the right to believe in what they want to and dismiss it if the so choose. The title of this thread is a common African Heritage so if you don't like the thread join another one. As for a superior tone in my voice that's a joke because as far as I am concerned I have no inferior complex so I don't need to feel superior to anyone. I am humble enough to know that life itself is an education. That we all learn from each other and have the ability to teach on another from the youngest child to the oldest adult because no one can learn everything there is to know in one life time.
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mbay
Germany
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Posted - 08 Dec 2006 : 11:19:05
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(It feels to be as if Islam has done the same in Gambia.
It has separated people from their natural beliefs and imposed ALLAH.)
And we are happy about that! Remember that Islam didn’t comes to the Gambia
by power but by they own choice for conventing in to ISLAM.
And you have to know that the roots of all religions means social & unite .black white Hindu yellow and so on, all in one!
It’s the radicals and some blinder trying to push us in wrong world.
(In God and his angels are good to believe them)
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Sister Omega, what would you say is the 'natural' religion of Gambia then? I THOUGHT it was animist. I THOUGHT alot of Jola people still have some of those beliefs. I STILL dont think Christianity OR Islam are organic to Gambia. They have both been imposed from outside.
In England people were originally Pagan and then gradually Christianity took over alot of the traditional celebrations and festivals. It feels to be as if Islam has done the same in Gambia. It has separated people from their natural beliefs and imposed ALLAH.
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Santanfara
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Posted - 08 Dec 2006 : 12:12:16
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WE STILL HAVE ANIMIST IN THE GAMBIA AND SUB-REGION. THIS WAS OUR ANCENT HERITAGE. LIKE ANY OTHER SOCIETY WE HAVE UNDER GONE TRANSFORMATION AND ORRIENTATION,LIKE EUROPE ,ASIA ,AMERICA EVERY WERE PEOPLE HAVE CHANGE. WE HAPPEN TO CHOOSE ISLAM ,SOME CHRISTIAN OTHERS NOTHING.
IN EUROPE NEO-HUMANISM HAVE STARTED TAKING ROOTS AFTER HIGH |
Surah- Ar-Rum 30-22
"And among His signs is the creation of heavens and the earth, and the difference of your languages and colours. verily, in that are indeed signs for men of sound knowledge." Qu'ran
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Sister Omega
United Kingdom
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Posted - 08 Dec 2006 : 15:45:49
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Animism exists all over Africa regardless of what is its predominant religion. Culture is something that isn't eradicated by religion nations still celebrate festivals or integrate customs into their religion. As you noted gambiabev the English were originally Pagans and the Winter Solist was celebrated on 21 December and with the adoption of Christainity Christ birthday was conveniently placed on 25th. The older strands of Christainity i.e Ethiopian Church celebrates Christmas on 7th January, The Russian Orthodox Church celebrates Christmas on 6th and so does The Greek Orthodox Church.
One thing the Pagans got right was by third week of December people need festivities to brighten up their lives.
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Momodou
Denmark
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Posted - 08 Dec 2006 : 16:15:03
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I once heard before that Christ was actually born in September and not December but because the change of the calender from Julian to Gregorian it now falls in December.
"The Gregorian Calendar is a revision of the Julian Calendar which was instituted in a papal bull by Pope Gregory XIII in 1582. The reason for the calendar change was to correct for drift in the dates of signifigant religious observations (primarily Easter) and to prevent further drift in the dates.
The important effects of the change were:
- Drop 10 days from October 1582, to realign the Vernal Equinox with 21 March
- Change leap year selection so that not all years ending in "00" are leap years.
- Change the beginning of the year to 1 January from 25 March" Source: http://www.furrfu.com/magpies/cal_gregorian.html
"The Julian calendar was switched over to the Gregorian starting in 1582, at which point the 10 day difference between the actual time of year and traditional time of year on which calendrical events occurred became intolerable. The switchover was bitterly opposed by much of the populace, who feared it was attempt by landlords to cheat then out of a week and a half's rent. However, when Pope Gregory XIII decreed that the day after October 4, 1582 would be October 15, 1582, the Catholic countries of France, Spain, Portugal, and Italy complied. Various Catholic German countries (Germany was not yet unified), Belgium, the Netherlands, and Switzerland followed suit within a year or two, and Hungary followed in 1587.
Because of the Pope's decree, the reform of the Julian calendar came to be known as the Gregorian calendar. However, the rest of Europe did not follow suit for more than a century.
The Protestant German countries adopted the Gregorian reform in 1700. By this time, the calendar trailed the seasons by 11 days. England (and the American colonies) finally followed suit in 1752, and Wednesday, September 2, 1752 was immediately followed by Thursday, September 14, 1752. This traumatic change resulted in widespread riots and the populace demanding "Give us the eleven days back!"
Sweden followed England's lead in 1753. Russia, however, did not follow suit until 1918, when January 31, 1918 was immediately followed by February 14th. In fact, however, the USSR is not on the Gregorian calendar, but on a more accurate one of their own devising. The USSR calendar is designed to more closely approximate the true length of the tropical year, thus has one additional rule for when a year is a leap year. It will remain in synchronization with the Gregorian calendar for thousands more years, by which time one or both will have probably fallen into disuse. Similarly, Iranian calendar is also a more accurate version of the Gregorian calendar (Ross). " Source: http://scienceworld.wolfram.com/astronomy/GregorianCalendar.html |
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gambiabev
United Kingdom
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Posted - 09 Dec 2006 : 10:29:59
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Epiphany is 6th Jan, this is SUPPOSED to be when the kings arrived to see Jesus. In Spain this is highly celbrated with processions with kings and the throw sweets to the children.
When we live in such dark gloomy countries in winter we need any excuse for a party.
I am a humanist, but I am not a killjoy! I am from a christian background and i embrace the cultural aspect of being part of that community. So over xmas I will send presents and cards and sing a few carols. I also get a xmas tree, eat a nice meal and have a few drinks!
Imagine winter without Christmas??? I woudl just have to go and live in Gambia!!! |
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njucks
Gambia
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Posted - 09 Dec 2006 : 12:44:07
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Originally posted by Momodou
"The Julian calendar was switched over to the Gregorian starting in 1582,
i have a friend from Ethiopia, according to her they are currently in 1997 |
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Santanfara
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Posted - 09 Dec 2006 : 13:22:33
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Originally posted by njucks
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Originally posted by Momodou
"The Julian calendar was switched over to the Gregorian starting in 1582,
i have a friend from Ethiopia, according to her they are currently in 1997
she may be in coma njucks. |
Surah- Ar-Rum 30-22
"And among His signs is the creation of heavens and the earth, and the difference of your languages and colours. verily, in that are indeed signs for men of sound knowledge." Qu'ran
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Sister Omega
United Kingdom
2085 Posts |
Posted - 09 Dec 2006 : 20:20:03
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Njucks I have a Old Ethiopian calender for 2002(1995) the Ethiopian year runs from September 11th to Sept 11. Therefore 2006 is 1999 and in September 2007 will be 2000.http://www.ethiopic.com/calendar/ethiopic.htm
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njucks
Gambia
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Posted - 09 Dec 2006 : 21:03:39
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| Santa trust me she is alive and kicking, and thanks SO for the info, |
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Santanfara
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Posted - 10 Dec 2006 : 14:49:33
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Santa trust me she is alive and kicking, and thanks SO for the info,
good. i will be happy with that calendar ,since my age will be reduce by a considerable number. |
Surah- Ar-Rum 30-22
"And among His signs is the creation of heavens and the earth, and the difference of your languages and colours. verily, in that are indeed signs for men of sound knowledge." Qu'ran
www.suntoumana.blogspot.com |
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