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Nyarikangbanna
United Kingdom
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 Posted - 27 Nov 2006 : 20:10:50
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At the starting of the campaign, Ayatollah Sallah said people should decide between Nadd and UDP. He did not mention APRC.That means he knows he will be no where near a notceable percentage and yet because of his hatre for UDP, which he have exhibited since 1996, he decided to join the race as a spoiler. He is not the solution that is why Gambians gave him the bloody noise to the extent that he is now questioning his own credibility. Don't you hear him asking himself whether he is less important,or uncharismatic, ofcourse he is less important and less charismatic, and only fools will believe otherwise.
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I do not oppose unity but I oppose dumb union. |
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Santanfara
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Posted - 27 Nov 2006 : 20:45:33
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| DBALDEH. YOU HAVE FINALLY SPOKEN. I HOPE SSDAFFEH WILL LET SLEEPING DOGS LIE. I HAVE IMMENSE RESPECT FOR BOTH OF YOU WITHOUT EVEN SEENING OR KNOWING ANY ONE OF YOU. THIS IS POLITICS. LET US ARGUE IN GOOD HEART AND GOOD MANNERS. YOU BOTH HAVE MADE YOUR POINT. I FOR ONE WANT ACTION NOW!!!!!!!.YAYA OUT. NO CONPROMISE.YOU BOTH ARE DEMOCRATS AND I AM NOT FULLY BUT ONLY WHEN NEED BE. |
Surah- Ar-Rum 30-22
"And among His signs is the creation of heavens and the earth, and the difference of your languages and colours. verily, in that are indeed signs for men of sound knowledge." Qu'ran
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dbaldeh
USA
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Posted - 27 Nov 2006 : 22:58:05
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Any sound minded politician must ask themselves critical questions after they have been rejected so badly in the polls. The intellectual mind always try to make sense out of any outcome including questioning ones own role and where to go from there.
Accepting the status quo without any questions whatsoever is in itself a leadership weakness and inability to analyse for future improvement. Politics as usual is no more...
The days of going with the flow are over. One need to question the reason things happen and to any mature person, it is the only way one can learn from weaknesses and improve on the status quo. There is a difference between being in politics for a good course and being in it simply because that is where one find him/herself. The political learning curve is far fetch for others |
Baldeh,
"Be the change you want to see in the world" Ghandi
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Nyarikangbanna
United Kingdom
1382 Posts |
Posted - 28 Nov 2006 : 03:31:01
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Sweeping statements are always never devoid of idiological deficits, and these ones are no exceptions.
Santafara, since you have being calling for calm, I have now decided to heed to your call but with a reserve right of respond to any slur on my integrity with a lethal weaponary that is shock and awe, as it is of my view that you deserve to be given the respect due to you. I apologise for any inconvience I may have caused you and you alone, ok.
Thanks
When the going is tough, only the tough can go. |
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Santanfara
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Posted - 28 Nov 2006 : 05:56:08
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Originally posted by Nyarikangbanna
Sweeping statements are always never devoid of idiological deficits, and these ones are no exceptions.
Santafara, since you have being calling for calm, I have now decided to heed to your call but with a reserve right of respond to any slur on my integrity with a lethal weaponary that is shock and awe, as it is of my view that you deserve to be given the respect due to you. I apologise for any inconvience I may have caused you and you alone, ok.
Thanks
Thanks brother nyrikanbanna. i am very humble by your acceptance of a truce. i have no douth in your intellectual and political credentials and i have learned a lot from your articles and forum postings.you are one of us and you fill proud of it that is why you are constantly engaging in civilise political discussions.
when the message we are trying to send accross become misunderstood ,it is wise to take a break and ponder over a different strategy. you have every right to defend your interigrity and honour.
politics nowadays has become a medium of intertaiment and the ordinary person wants to feel interested and intertaine by the politiians. so let us argue in the light of good humour whilst passing on serious message. both you nyari and dbaldeh can put your points accross with a good banter whilst the the message will be clearly understood.i personally don't think it is bad to have a pure political discussion on high level ,this enlighten a lot gambian's on the forum and even quest who only read what is being writen .so you two have a fan base but i hope we all understand our responsility on our readers.peace to all.
When the going is tough, only the tough can go.
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Surah- Ar-Rum 30-22
"And among His signs is the creation of heavens and the earth, and the difference of your languages and colours. verily, in that are indeed signs for men of sound knowledge." Qu'ran
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kobo
United Kingdom
7765 Posts |
Posted - 28 Nov 2006 : 14:56:05
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Food for thoughts and updates under http://allafrica.com/stories/200611280167.html
These are the ingredients: politics, patriotism, faith and fear in ALLAH to steer a nation!
QUOTE of the day:
"we will bear in our minds the interest of the nation, not group interest, tribal interest but that of Gambians."
"FOR THE GAMBIA OUR HOMELAND!
We strive and work and pray!
That all may live in UNITY!
Freedom and Peace each day!
LET JUSTICE GUIDE OUR ACTIONS TOWARDS THE COMMON GOOD!
And join OUR DIVERSE PEOPLES'!"
WITHOUT FEAR AND FAVOUR!
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MADIBA
United Kingdom
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Posted - 28 Nov 2006 : 15:32:04
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Originally posted by kobo
Food for thoughts and updates under http://allafrica.com/stories/200611280167.html
These are the ingredients: politics, patriotism, faith and fear in ALLAH to steer a nation!
QUOTE of the day:
"we will bear in our minds the interest of the nation, not group interest, tribal interest but that of Gambians."
"FOR THE GAMBIA OUR HOMELAND!
We strive and work and play!
Thou all may live in UNITY!
Freedom and Peace each day!
LET JUSTICE GUIDE OUR ACTIONS TOWARDS THE COMMON GOOD!
And join OUR DIVERSE PEOPLES'!"
WITHOUT FEAR AND FAVOUR!
Kobo,
Revisit your National Anthem. Is it PLAY or PRAY?
THOU or THAT? Are you Gambian?
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Edited by - MADIBA on 28 Nov 2006 15:32:35 |
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kobo
United Kingdom
7765 Posts |
Posted - 28 Nov 2006 : 17:09:01
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kayjatta
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Posted - 28 Nov 2006 : 18:16:13
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These are interesting arguments. But sooner or later we might have to let go. Maybe we should not try "to put together what God has put asunder".Maybe NADD(PDOIS, PPP and others) and UDP/NRP/GPDP are infact not meant to be bedfellows.
The consolidation of all the opposition parties into NADD should not be the only pathway to our goals of rescueing our country from the hands of Jammeh's dictatorship.
Let them run separate candidates , but let them include at the forefront burning national issues like an ammendment for TERM LIMITS .
Some good Gambians could collect enough signatures of electorates around the country for the inclusion of the ammendment for term limits on the January ballot( if possible under Gambian laws).
Any candidates standing on the issue of term limit could then become a deciding factor to his/her success.
The opposition must not be distracted by in-fighting. They have a common enemy to fight-the APRC , and the less they attack each other, and direct their attacks jointly at the APRC the more they could turn out voters and win more votes.
Both Halifa and Darboe are great Gambians (with their flaws of course).These two people are certainly making history , and that history of the Gambia would not be complete without the names of these two people.
However , we must all beware that what is at stake is not Halifa nad Darboe , it is the country , the Gambia. |
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Bronx
USA
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Posted - 28 Nov 2006 : 21:45:54
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kayjatta wrote
Both Halifa and Darboe are great Gambians (with their flaws of course).These two people are certainly making history , and that history of the Gambia would not be complete without the names of these two people.However , we must all beware that what is at stake is not Halifa and Darboe , it is the country , the Gambia.
That is an astute observation my friend. How do we go about mending fences and looking past each others flaws for the common good? That will be the challenge of our times.If this thread is anything to go by, it is not going to be a walk in the park by any means. But I am an optimist. I believe in the inherency of something good in each of us albeit opinions vary. |
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kobo
United Kingdom
7765 Posts |
Posted - 28 Nov 2006 : 23:01:01
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In politics there is no such think like RIGHT THINKING! In my opinion its all about RE-ORIENTAION AND RE-THINKING PROCESS for radical change in policies and approaches! However there is the need to address certain ISSUES CRITICALLY as either ALLIES to ruling regime (APRC) or as ADVERSERIES (OPPOSITION PARTIES) under PARTY POLITICS,; with manifestoes, policies, programmes, strategies and tactical plans.
Therefore let each party, alliance(s) and contender think SMART get its strategies properly organised and braced itself for the elections!
QUOTE FROM ALHASAN (Gambian politics; Topic: Right thinking)
"Kobo,
I would suggest the same as I did before the presidential elections. If the opposition has the same way of doing things and in a coalitation, then they loose. The way the coliation elected their representatives and candidate wes not fair. I would suggest to them to try and get the members of the parties in a convention and do the elections of candidates. This would be better. I feel ordinary members should be involved and not only member of the committee. I would have done things in another way rather than the way the coalition did before Sept. "
I endorsed a CONVENTION OR NATIONAL CONGRESS for ALL OPPOSITION PARTIES to RECONCILE, RE-NEGOTIATE, UNITE, RE-CREATE, RE-STRUCTURE, RE-BRAND and MOBILISED THEMSELVES UNDER ONE NEW BANNER (not necessarily NADD or UDP/NRP/GDP alliances); FOR THE WAY FORWARD!
"LET JUSTICE GUIDE OUR ACTIONS TOWARDS THE COMMON GOOD"
PEACE! |
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MADIBA
United Kingdom
1275 Posts |
Posted - 28 Nov 2006 : 23:59:53
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quote:
Originally posted by kobo
In politics there is no such think like RIGHT THINKING! In my opinion its all about RE-ORIENTAION AND RE-THINKING PROCESS for radical change in policies and approaches! However there is the need to address certain ISSUES CRITICALLY as either ALLIES to ruling regime (APRC) or as ADVERSERIES (OPPOSITION PARTIES) under PARTY POLITICS,; with manifestoes, policies, programmes, strategies and tactical plans.
Therefore let each party, alliance(s) and contender think SMART get its strategies properly organised and braced itself for the elections!
QUOTE FROM ALHASAN (Gambian politics; Topic: Right thinking)
"Kobo,
I would suggest the same as I did before the presidential elections. If the opposition has the same way of doing things and in a coalitation, then they loose. The way the coliation elected their representatives and candidate wes not fair. I would suggest to them to try and get the members of the parties in a convention and do the elections of candidates. This would be better. I feel ordinary members should be involved and not only member of the committee. I would have done things in another way rather than the way the coalition did before Sept. "
I endorsed a CONVENTION OR NATIONAL CONGRESS for ALL OPPOSITION PARTIES to RECONCILE, RE-NEGOTIATE, UNITE, RE-CREATE, RE-STRUCTURE, RE-BRAND and MOBILISED THEMSELVES UNDER ONE NEW BANNER (not necessarily NADD or UDP/NRP/GDP alliances); FOR THE WAY FORWARD!
"LET JUSTICE GUIDE OUR ACTIONS TOWARDS THE COMMON GOOD"
PEACE!
Kobo,
Could you please differentiate between these two statements:
In politics there is no such think like RIGHT THINKING!
Therefore let each party, alliance(s) and contender think SMART
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kobo
United Kingdom
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Posted - 29 Nov 2006 : 01:21:06
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Madiba, there are no parameters(boundaries) for RIGHT THINKING and POLITICAL CORRECTNESS!
Think SMART basically means to be DECISIVE at the right time (moment)and right place for any given situation!
However our perceptions and opinions may vary on these approaches |
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MADIBA
United Kingdom
1275 Posts |
Posted - 29 Nov 2006 : 01:41:18
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Originally posted by kobo
Madiba, there are no parameters(boundaries) for RIGHT THINKING and POLITICAL CORRECTNESS!
Think SMART basically means to be DECISIVE at the right time (moment)and right place for any given situation!
However our perceptions and opinions may vary on these approaches
I think is what the Mandinka's would call a situation of 'BAA BU LA JULOO' and ' JULOO BU LA BAA' .Meaning in English, 'PUT THE GOAT'S HEAD THROUGH THE NOOSE' and 'PUT THE NOOSE OVER THE GOAT'S HEAD'. The desired effect is to secure the goat. Its one and the same thing is just the method that differs but it leads to the desired destination. Anyway thanks for the attempt and being democratic |
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