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patrick
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 Posted - 26 Nov 2006 : 20:59:37
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Daffeh, there you go again with another session of insults. this time on me. Can't you sit down and think twice before acting so low, so childish. Man, stop the confuse attitude and get on with the realities of life. Please refer back to your past postings that you sent through Saihou Mballow. Refer back to your old postings before the presidential elections and read them with an open mind and see whether what i'm telling you is a lie.
Daffeh i don't know you but what i understand is that you are too arrogant and lack repect. That being the case, i will not engage you in any more exchanges that is to make me look childish and naive.
If you want to exchange postings with me, you have to grow up and stop the insults.
Man, you have a confuse character as you only said in your last posting that you don't insult people. But the next minute you are in the rampage insulting me. Can't you act maturely by controlling your temper. I can't believe that you are an interlect in anycase, which you were trying to imply in your postings, as interlectuals aught to think much better.
My apology to all other Bantaba readers that may be hurt by my postings. I rest my case, and have a great time. |
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dbaldeh
USA
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Posted - 26 Nov 2006 : 22:16:41
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Folks, this discussion is important not necessarily the tribal affeliation but the role people like Nyarikang(Two Voices)played during the last election campaign.
Gambia is still rotten and the Gambian people are suffering more today because of the politics of personality and the belief that only ONE man Darboe can lead an opposition to defeat Jammeh.
It has only been a few months since the presidential elections are over and they are wanting to wipe out any negative role they played in disintegrating the opposition.
Nyarikang's numerous writings to Gambia post and through Saikou Mballow were so divisive that they only belong to a group of klan wishing to revitalize the MANSA syndrome. He could not get any endorsement or support from anyone in those sites so he decided to join the Bantaba with a fake name that I later expose as him. It was only then he surfaced with his real Name Daffeh.
He Daffeh is welknown in every forum and online site particularly on this bantaba as an ISOLATIONIST and HATER. This is evident in him trying to depich me as a non Gambian. It does not matter whether I am Nigerian, Freetonian, Senegalese or Sudanese or Gambian. What matters is that we have the interest of the Gambia at heart and wants to see what is best for Gambia and the Gambian people. I am a citizen of this world and that is what matters.
Our nationalities only matters to those isolationist who think gambia belongs to them and them alone. This line of reasoning is what perfectly discribes them as tribalist in their blood. They fake it outside by trying to use people like Saikou Mballow, Pheme Peters, Syingle Nyassi Hamat Bah etc so they can show they are inclusive. This is exactly the picture the Republican Party try to portray in the U.S when deep down their bases they cannot stand anybody different.
A clear example of using others like Hamat Bah is the fact that whenever you mention Hamat as a possible leader of the UDP you get laser eye bullets coming at you. I talk to some of their supporters all the time across the country and this is the picture I get contrary to what it was when NRP joined them.
We hear the same name calling against Yahya that he is non Gambian and Jola so therefore he need to go. Oh, is the Fula or Mandinka better than the Jola in any form? Ask Nyarikang this question who uttered this statement? "YOu are under my feet" Are we still in the days of slavery where the so called Mansa's still think they are superior? Who is who now?
We need to join hands to wipe out this poisoneous line of thinking. There is no one man who can bring lasting change to the Gambia. It does not matter who is in power, we need a system that can bring lasting peace, stability, good governance, freedom and libety to the Gambian people. We need level headed people who are willing to sacrifice their lives for the rest of our people to live a decent life.
In moving forward, those isolationists need to be exposed and the cancers removed before we get to our next round of voting again. One mind at a time we can change the way the people think and behave by educating them but not dividing them. If your way is the only way Nyarikang(double standard) then hit the highway yourself. There are no rooms for insults. We need mature people who can control themselves and withstand heated debates and still don't lose their heads.. You can continue on your soul searching, while we the rest of us continue to search for a better way for Gambia
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Baldeh,
"Be the change you want to see in the world" Ghandi
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Santanfara
3460 Posts |
Posted - 27 Nov 2006 : 01:01:27
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| DBALDEH. the accusation you are making can be label as a hatred for your fellow country men ,mr nyakanbana. he has his democratic rights to express his support for whoever he think is fit to be the head of state and so are you. he also have the right to write his judgement on mr halifa sallah since it was sallah who choose to run for office.not wanting salah does not mean hating him as a person. you seems to be too hurt by ssdaffeh but let us all put that type of politics aside. there are people who have unconditional support for mr sallah and some for mr darbo and even for yaya. this people stand by there man come rain or shine. this is what politics is all about. politicians don't have any friend or continuous loyalty to any one ,so dont loose your friends for them. to be angry too easily is to be mad in a flika. halifa is an intellectual and a good politician but also the supporters of dabo or yaya can say the same ,it is matter of judgement. i personally support a canditate base on what i feel about him.the blaming of udp for jammeh's winning should stop since udp can blame nadd for loosing.after all nadd pull a lot less votes.what we need to talk about is do halifa need dabo 's support to win the election ? no. do dabo need halifa's support to win the election ?no.the gambians need to choose which canditate they want . we are a long way away from an inform voting in the gambia. the dragon yaya will be winning like jawara use to untill yaya also call a comference in kanilai and offer his resignation ,then aprc suppoters will start crying and jammeh will continue untill an intervention by couragious gambians. let the opposion fight it on there own . no slaging each other .cease fire brothers you dont know each so you cannot fight physically.i would love to see both of you on soft grass battling it out. i will be enjoying my milk and couscous. am sorry to say put forum should be for minor confrontation ,major one should be writen as an article for newspapers. halifa is nadd figure head so he is nadd and the same for dabo for udp .politics and personality cannot be seprated .just look at the u.s and u.k. |
Surah- Ar-Rum 30-22
"And among His signs is the creation of heavens and the earth, and the difference of your languages and colours. verily, in that are indeed signs for men of sound knowledge." Qu'ran
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Nyarikangbanna
United Kingdom
1382 Posts |
Posted - 27 Nov 2006 : 01:55:02
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I will go at any length to defend my integrity at all cost. No inept fanatic will use his lack of better explanation for things he stands for to impugn my integrity by branded me a tribalist out of the blue simply because I bear a Mandingo name. That is sickening and only ultra tribalist will do that. Gambia belongs to Gambians. I think it is about time that incitement to tribal hatred is made a crime so that the like of Afang Baldeh, who prophesies to alienate people from Gambian politics on the basis of belonging to a particular tribe, can be put behind bars whenever they step foot in Gambia. They are the scum of the Gambian society and they need to be locked up and rehabilitated for the good of the wider society. They are actual sick people. That is why i recommend to Baldeh that he needs to see a doctor.
Patrick, to be honest I am profoundly glad that I insulted you. I don’t need to engage because you are an ultra-tribalist, which is ungambian but I will do so if you dare attack my integrity. That’s for sure. If it had not being for the wider readership, you and Baldeh will regret why you were born in the first place.
Can I also, make myself loud and clear once again, I have no regret in anything I wrote regarding the NADD impasse. I standby everything i said before because they represent the truth, and I don't care if they are tasteless because truth is not always tasteful. Anybody can be rest assured that if a similar situation arises in the future, I will not hesitate to pick up the hammer again. I am still waiting for the opportunity to present itself and I shall grab it like a Falcon handling a chicken.
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Nyarikangbanna
United Kingdom
1382 Posts |
Posted - 27 Nov 2006 : 02:13:58
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Nyarikang's numerous writings to Gambia post and through Saikou Mballow were so divisive that they only belong to a group of klan wishing to revitalize the MANSA syndrome. He could not get any endorsement or support from anyone in those sites so he decided to join the Bantaba with a fake name that I later expose as him. It was only then he surfaced with his real Name Daffeh.
Baldeh, do you inherit lying? I always have the SSdaffeh at the bottom of every article i posted since i join in september. Anybody can go back on the records to verify this claim. If you contest this, then pls reproduce one of my articles which does not have that ssdaffeh at the bottom. If you don't do this then am entitle to assume that you have lying in your genes.
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dbaldeh
USA
934 Posts |
Posted - 27 Nov 2006 : 04:13:58
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Nyarikang, you have no integrity left to defend on this forum. You can defend yourself to readers who have never read your postings. Many readers on this forum have already made up their minds on where you stand and what you are as a self appointed spoke and statisticians who is confused by his own numbers.
You might as well invent yourself and search for another forum to rebuild your integrity. Only when you have no respect for your own human dignity that you utter insults to your fellow human beings.
As for Santanfara, you don't seems to have any logic in your writings. You are all over the board. I want to believe that you are confused by the storm that came with your call to topple Jammeh by any means.
No one deny that you can support any candidate one wants to support. If you have been on this forum pre elections you will see the kind of hatred Daffeh has against his fellow countrymen especially Halifa and Waa Juwara. He continues on his hatred on this very minute. We are not talking about what is happening now. We are revisiting pre-election postings where he Daffeh help engineer the UDP pull out from NADD.
I am with the impression that when every fair minded Gambian was in for the opposition to unite under any possible leadership to root our Jammeh, these people were busy nurturing their own selfish agenda thus leading to the premature pull out of UDP from the very agreement they signed. This is the issue under discussion.
Is it in fact not true that the opposition fail to register any significants during the elections because of the UDP pull out?
Isn't it true that while the interest of the country is at stake UDP supporters like Daffeh were busy tearing the opposition apart for leadership reasons?
Isn't it not true the UDP pull out in the name of distrust was a flimpsy execuse because they did not get an outright nomination?
Isn't it not true Gambian electorates lost interest in the elections because these so called political intellectuals betrayed any sound minded Gambian.
Isn't it not true that Nyarikang made numerous commentaries outrightly indicating that WITHOUT DARBOE AS THE LEADER no one else can reasonably contest against Jammeh?
These are my points of debate and they are very important for us to iron out before the next phrase. Next time around we will not allow politics of personality from people with hidden agendas.
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"Be the change you want to see in the world" Ghandi
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Santanfara
3460 Posts |
Posted - 27 Nov 2006 : 07:44:10
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| MR DBALDEH. WHAT I WAS SAYING IS THAT NADD DON'T NEED UDP TO WIN THE ELECTION. APRC WON WITHOUT ANY CREDIBLE ALLIANCE. I DO NOT ENDORSE NYARIKANBANA. BUT YOU ARE CAUGHT UP IN STORM OVER NOTHING SIR. IF HE CREATE A CONFLICT SITUATION YOU CANNOT DESOLVE IT BY A COUNTER-CONFLICT. I AM ALL OVER THE PLACE THAT IS RIGHT ,BUT YOU ARE STILL TRYING A FUTILE EFFORT TO JUSTIFY NADD'S FAILURE. LET THE PAST FAILURES OF THE OPPOSITION BE PROPERLY ANALYSE NOT BY BLAMING OTHER PARTIES BUT BY CREATING AN ATMOSPHIRE OF REAL UNITY AND DIALOGUE. I DO NOT TAKE ANY SIDE , IF YOU ARE READY MR DBALDEH LET US DEBATE OTHER ISSUES THAT CAN MAKE THE OPPOSITION READY FOR THE NEXT PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION IN FEW YEARS TIME NOT BEATING A DEAD HORSE. I HAVE READ NUMEROUS ARTICLES BY MR DAFFEH AND HE WAS SPEAKING HIS MIND WHY DON'T YOU COUNTER HIM THEN ? HE MAY BE ARROGANT TO YOU BUT SOME MAY LIKE HIS STANDS .NADD IS A NEW PARTY AND THEY HAVE A GOOD FUTURE AHEAD ONLY IF THEY PLAN WELL AND KNOW WHAT TO MAKE PULIC AND WHAT STRATEGY TO WORK ON IN SECRET. POLITICS IS ALL ABOUT KNOWING YOUR OPPONENTS WEAKNESS AND I AM AFFRAID YOU ARE EXPOSING NADD WEAKNESSES. SSDAFFEH IS FOR HIS MAN AND YOU ARE FOR YOUR MAN SO BOTH OF GET OVER THE PAST. MANSA DAFFEH AND MANSA BALDEH MAKE PEACE. |
Surah- Ar-Rum 30-22
"And among His signs is the creation of heavens and the earth, and the difference of your languages and colours. verily, in that are indeed signs for men of sound knowledge." Qu'ran
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Nyarikangbanna
United Kingdom
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Posted - 27 Nov 2006 : 11:52:14
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am with the impression that when every fair minded Gambian was in for the opposition to unite under any possible leadership to root our Jammeh, these people were busy nurturing their own selfish agenda thus leading to the premature pull out of UDP from the very agreement they signed. This is the issue under discussion.
You can say the above but the fact remains that Udp led coalition obtained almost five times the total votes of NADD. That makes the UDP leeader a better recommendation than an Ayatollah who does not even speak for his family. I know you are furustrated in finding an explanation for this. That is why you are on the rampage calling people tribalist because you think everybody is such an ultra-tribalist as you exhibited yourself to be.
You can't get rid of us
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Nyarikangbanna
United Kingdom
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Posted - 27 Nov 2006 : 12:00:09
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Isn't it true that while the interest of the country is at stake UDP supporters like Daffeh were busy tearing the opposition apart for leadership reasons?
We did it without an iota of regret, and until NADD cease to be a facade and completely deviod of hypocricy and insecerity, our position shall remain thesame.
You can't get rid of us |
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Nyarikangbanna
United Kingdom
1382 Posts |
Posted - 27 Nov 2006 : 12:09:35
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Is it in fact not true that the opposition fail to register any significants during the elections because of the UDP pull out?
That means the UDP and its allies are the real opposition and NADD is simply a bunch of freaks who are either idiologically barren or outcasts in the Gambian society.
You can't get rid of us.
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Nyarikangbanna
United Kingdom
1382 Posts |
Posted - 27 Nov 2006 : 13:03:24
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No one deny that you can support any candidate one wants to support. If you have been on this forum pre elections you will see the kind of hatred Daffeh has against his fellow countrymen especially Halifa and Waa Juwara
Yeah and I am lov'n it. Why should I have regard for a beast who is bent on living his life insulting community elders including his own uncle, Ex-president Jawara who once publicly disown him, and who is not even fit for the Alkaloship of Dankunku. Suffice to that, he is a convictment criminal who have been committed to a prison sentence for six months, and thus, he cannot be deemed as a man of good character.
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kobo
United Kingdom
7765 Posts |
Posted - 27 Nov 2006 : 13:24:57
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There shoould not be any hypocrisy, hatred and personal issues on this topic.
Nyarinknbana, finally you have addressed few points under your recent three posts as above (no matter what they are in your opinions or how they are perceived to be with regard to previous opinions, comments and points).
However, earlier it was totally out of order with tirade of INSULTS and STUPID ARGUMENTS kind of on allegations of TRIBALISM AND LIES against another member and a GAMBIAN with due respect to INTEGRITY AND YOUR COMPATRIOTS FOR THE GAMBIA OUR HOMELAND!
I tried to check the sequence of activities under this topic to TRACK WHERE OR HOW THE BREAKDOWN OF COMMUNICATION OCCURED; in particular about TRIBALISM OR ITS CONNOTATION?; but realised that these sensitive words flew through this topic as follows:
Please re-visit page 1 of this topic under this link to take note of the sequence of events and sensitivity of words, and allegations that aroused TRIBALISM and do justice and own the burden in simple terms
http://www.gambia.dk/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=2414&whichpage=1
"For the Gambia our homeland; we strive and work and play"
"LET JUSTICE GUIDE OUR ACTIONS TOWARDS THE COMMON GOOD"
PEACE!
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Nyarikangbanna
United Kingdom
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Posted - 27 Nov 2006 : 13:44:16
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I don’t respond to twats whoever they are.
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kobo
United Kingdom
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Posted - 27 Nov 2006 : 13:54:25
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quote:
Originally posted by Nyarikangbanna
I don’t respond to twats whoever they are.
You can't get rid of us
You are hiding behind PARTY CLOAK ("You can't get rid of us"). You displayed your NASTY PERSONNAL attitude and want to drag A NATION TO CIVIL WAR!
As far as am concern, "Ayotallah, Mansa,Lies and Tribalism" have no place in Gambian politics. Do justice to UNP/NRP/GPDP with good public relations, good policticking, sound opinions, visions and good leadership qualities if you want to beat the system of Jammeh's regime.
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dbaldeh
USA
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Posted - 27 Nov 2006 : 17:34:59
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Kobo, santanfara, and others, Nyarikangs's series of responses above shows how futile it is to engage someone who have no sense of direction. His responses shows he has no regret in seeing the Gambian people continue to suffer while all the opposition parties are riding in shame and betrayal of the trust of the gambian people.
Every reader can see how hateful this guy is and it is indeed a waste of energy and talent to engage someone who has such a narrow vision in the name of party politics. People like him will never find a solution to a problem like our political nightmare. So burrying him with his own hate feathers is the only way to go.
As for Santafara, we need to revisit the past, study the present and prepare for the future. It is only when we know what went wrong can we rectify some of the major mistakes for a better political future. So regardless of how bad the opposition did we still need to study the trend for a better future.
I will declare from this minute that it was never my intention to engage someone who have no interest in finding a solution to our problems. The last three answers from Daffeh finally did it for me. Once a loser always a loser. A lost is a lost regardless of how many votes you pull period. There is nothing to rejoice about pulling 23,000 or 100,000.
It was and remain my intention to expose any one on this forum who have a hidden agenda that is detrimental to our collective course in changing our country. Every reader atleast knows what the hidden agendas were and continue to be. I will only response when I notice another sneak into misleading decent people in believing their fake statistics.
We don't intend to get rid of them literally, but history will in due course. Only the truth can last...
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Baldeh,
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