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dbaldeh
USA
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 Posted - 27 Nov 2006 : 19:16:16
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It is puzzling to me to always hear of all the sackings that goes on in the Jammeh regime. I often ask myself whether the President really knows about some of these sackings and who is really in control?
I would asume that before sacking a top government official or even a junior officer, the command would have to come from some kind of office like the Personnel Management Office or atleast from the President's office.
Now the questions to those who might have served under the government, who really makes the decision to sack or arrest someone? and how is that decision made?
With the number of sackings a day or week, how can the accountant general's office or other government records get updated to truely reflect who is active in service and who is not?
When some people get sacked I asume their salary get stopped, but when they are reinstated within a day or two how those the files get updated?
Do the President really know who is making these decisions to fire some of these officials? Is there someone like Baba Jobe who has control over such decisions without the President's knowledge?
I am only trying to understand really how decisions are made in the Jammeh regime. How can so many decisions be made and proper records be kept in running such a large entity?
Does this give us a clue as to how messed up is the government operation under this regime? Can anyone probably a loyalist to the regime explain to us how simple decisions are being made?
I look forward to an informative answer....
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Baldeh,
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Boido Bah
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Posted - 27 Nov 2006 : 19:59:04
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Files are updated as decisions are made. Its that simple. Today you are fired and tomoroww you are in. Just file the letters.
As for dismissals there are two routes. One is PSC which is mainly administrative and usually follows a thorough investigation and very rare. The other is political and no one knows why one is fired. Even your boss does not know. The only person who knows perhaps is the Secreatary General who writes such letters to Permanent secretaries who also only convey a decison to dismiss. They too have no idea why. All the letters begin with
" I am directed to Inform you of your immediate dismissal from the service".
Its one sentence for every one. Looking at the chain of custody, they all emanate from the Office of the President. As to who makes the decison in that office remains a mystery. Perhaps the SG knows as he initiates the chain reaction. He too writes saying that he was directed to inform the Permanent Secretary of the dismissal of persons under his ministry. Who directs who is the greatest mystery here. No one assumes responsibility atleast on paper. Everyone is directed by an unknown individual.
As to the confusion its everywhere. There are times when two people are appointed to the same position and later had to clear this up with the authorities.
Unfortunately, the PSC which should stand up for enforcement of employment law is quiet and looking the other way. They are all political appointees by the President and just go with the flow.
In the history of the PSC, they only refused to concurr the dismissal of only one civil servant since 1994. This civil servant has now retired.
Infact under the new constitution, the Public Srvice Act has now expanded to where the PSC is also responsible for conditions of service in parastatals. This is what led to the harmonisation of salaries in all parastatals effective 2001. Prior to that each had its own pay scale.
The problem it created is the role of Boards of Directors which by the new Public Service Act are redundant. There is need to iron this out. Unfortunately no one is talking about it. The Public Service Act did not delegate functions of PSC to Boards, so Boards are ineffect redundant. There are many loopholes like the Unified Teaching Service Act which PSC is not enforcing.
I dont want to waste time on this because no one listens. |
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Santanfara
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Posted - 27 Nov 2006 : 20:50:29
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| BOIDO. that is actually what happen. people are promoted or sacked due to political affiliation. any body can just accuse a high ranking civil servant of anti-aprc coments and he/she is sacked.yaya delicate the duties to his cronies who are happy to convey the sad news. |
Surah- Ar-Rum 30-22
"And among His signs is the creation of heavens and the earth, and the difference of your languages and colours. verily, in that are indeed signs for men of sound knowledge." Qu'ran
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mbay
Germany
1007 Posts |
Posted - 27 Nov 2006 : 22:33:45
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I'm pro APRC but some times i also get a headache about this.
if Yahya doesn't know what is going on behind him then that's a shame and dangerous and one have to ask then who is in charge?. |
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dbaldeh
USA
934 Posts |
Posted - 27 Nov 2006 : 22:38:00
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Boido, thanks for the information. It is interesting to hear your explanation. The mistery question of who makes the decision still lingers on and that is the most disturbing revelation.
For major government decisions to be made without knowing who makes the decision really smells bad blood. It is quite alarming to hear that people who should be making policy decisions just sit around and see things happening with absolutely no clue.
I wonder how honest citizens and civil servants can live with such inability to function knowing fully well that they are entrusted to do the work and yet they can't or are not able. May be am being unrealistic here...
Does this also raise the question of patrotism and whether people really care about making a difference in their daily functions as government officials; or are they just out to get the salary and make ends met?
The political hirings and firings really seems to tell all about how slim a control this government has over the system. It is scary to think that presiding over such a chaotic system of government will withstand the test of time. I am deeply sadden by this confirmation of my fears... Opinion from anyone please |
Baldeh,
"Be the change you want to see in the world" Ghandi
Visit http://www.gainako.com for your daily news and politics |
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Boido Bah
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Posted - 27 Nov 2006 : 23:32:11
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I have never seen any one who can tell you why he was dismissed. There are times when your own boss who writes your dismissal letter is also dismised after signing for all his employees. Usually the big boss is fired around 4.00pm.
There is a Messsenger who is feared more than any one as he delivers all such letters in the Quadrangle. When he comes in, you can see window blinds being opened and everyone tracking his every step. A knock on a door is enough to send someone to the emergency room. Work grinds to a halt until he leaves.
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kobo
United Kingdom
7765 Posts |
Posted - 28 Nov 2006 : 00:27:49
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quote:
Originally posted by mbay
I'm pro APRC but some times i also get a headache about this.
if Yahya doesn't know what is going on behind him then that's a shame and dangerous and one have to ask then who is in charge?.
I admire INTELLIGENT LADIES & GENTLEMEN, ELEMENT OF FLEXIBILITY, MATURITY, REASONABLENESS, GENUINE AND SOBER MINDS.
Mbay , those comments are 10 points score on your board! (10 out of 10)
"Let JUSTICE guide our ACTIONS!" |
Edited by - kobo on 28 Nov 2006 00:39:01 |
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Aku_pickin
Christmas Island
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Posted - 28 Nov 2006 : 04:22:37
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I guess there is hope for the youth after all. By the time this regime is done with their hirings and firings, everyone in the Gambia would have had an opportunity to be an MD or SOS.
What a bloody joke! |
Justice must be served as impunity brings more repression and corruption! |
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Santanfara
3460 Posts |
Posted - 28 Nov 2006 : 06:12:41
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Originally posted by Aku_pickin
I guess there is hope for the youth after all. By the time this regime is done with their hirings and firings, everyone in the Gambia would have had an opportunity to be an MD or SOS.
What a bloody joke!
Aku pikin would like to be offered an sos position? i am sure you are old enought for one.
in a proper dictatorship the man at helm don't have a glue what others are doing on his behave. this happen to saddam,mobuto,abarcher, etc and it is happening in the gambia. every jony wants to please him ,so people go arround looking for stinking fish . my father inlaw was by-pass for a director position and he was livid ,i told him that is the best thing that happens to you. he couldn't understand.the government invited him from the u.s offering him a position and then change there mind because some body said he may not like the regime.some civil servant now have the green cloth as their office dress just to get away from the gossipers for the president.we have a childish head of state . |
Surah- Ar-Rum 30-22
"And among His signs is the creation of heavens and the earth, and the difference of your languages and colours. verily, in that are indeed signs for men of sound knowledge." Qu'ran
www.suntoumana.blogspot.com |
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Aku_pickin
Christmas Island
162 Posts |
Posted - 29 Nov 2006 : 00:46:14
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Originally posted by SANTANFARA
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Originally posted by Aku_pickin
I guess there is hope for the youth after all. By the time this regime is done with their hirings and firings, everyone in the Gambia would have had an opportunity to be an MD or SOS.
What a bloody joke!
Aku pikin would like to be offered an sos position? i am sure you are old enought for one.
in a proper dictatorship the man at helm don't have a glue what others are doing on his behave. this happen to saddam,mobuto,abarcher, etc and it is happening in the gambia. every jony wants to please him ,so people go arround looking for stinking fish . my father inlaw was by-pass for a director position and he was livid ,i told him that is the best thing that happens to you. he couldn't understand.the government invited him from the u.s offering him a position and then change there mind because some body said he may not like the regime.some civil servant now have the green cloth as their office dress just to get away from the gossipers for the president.we have a childish head of state .
I would pass on such an offer as it goes against by morals to serve a regime who's policies I don't fully agree with. I'd be better off in an advisory role.
It's a shame that civil servants have to resort to to wearing a certain color. That's just gangsterism and thuggism. Reminds me of the Bloods and the Cripts gangs in the US and their colors. Childish indeed. |
Justice must be served as impunity brings more repression and corruption! |
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kobo
United Kingdom
7765 Posts |
Posted - 29 Nov 2006 : 01:04:11
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A state of terror and anarchy is not a CHILD'S JOKE You are not only fired but also under house arrest and all travel documents seized. Generosity of the extended family system really helps and support from income abroad of families and friends. Sympathetic to the ordeals of families of victims of circumstances.
FEAR FACTOR! |
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kondorong
Gambia
4380 Posts |
Posted - 29 Nov 2006 : 01:28:00
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Kobo
BUHABA LA.
Go on as always. |
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mbay
Germany
1007 Posts |
Posted - 29 Nov 2006 : 12:50:17
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T H A N K E Y O U !
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Originally posted by kobo
quote:
Originally posted by mbay
I'm pro APRC but some times i also get a headache about this.
if Yahya doesn't know what is going on behind him then that's a shame and dangerous and one have to ask then who is in charge?.
I admire INTELLIGENT LADIES & GENTLEMEN, ELEMENT OF FLEXIBILITY, MATURITY, REASONABLENESS, GENUINE AND SOBER MINDS.
Mbay , those comments are 10 points score on your board! (10 out of 10)
"Let JUSTICE guide our ACTIONS!"
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Janyanfara
Tanzania
1350 Posts |
Posted - 29 Nov 2006 : 17:47:24
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Hi my brothers,you all have my respect.
Thanks for sparing your times to contribute on bantaba.I always read your contributions.
Please be rest assured that you have my highest respect. When ever I have my break from school,I shall join you. |
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