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Sister Omega
United Kingdom
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 Posted - 24 Oct 2006 : 01:07:36
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It seems Material girls publicity stunt has backfired big time for all concerned. Madonna claims of legally adopting David seems to grow murkier everyday. The Malawian officials who approved the temporary adoption of David need to be taken to court for deliberately deceiving his father by duping him into signing away his son to be legally adopted without informing him on what legal adoption really means. So he could distinguish between fostering and adoption. Because it seems as if he thought he was placing David with Madonna to be fostered until he finished his education.
If there is a lesson to be learnt is that a child is not a commodity, and love is something no amount of money can buy. If that were the case the rich would live and the poor would die!
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Cornelius
Sweden
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jambo
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Posted - 25 Oct 2006 : 18:09:55
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| it has definately backfired, there is n way she can sya she was not aware of the rules of country, i think she thought I am ME lets pay. interesting that she chose oprah to appear on. the uk tv would not let her get away with this situation lightly. |
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Cornelius
Sweden
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kobo
United Kingdom
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Babylon
Sweden
691 Posts |
Posted - 29 Oct 2006 : 17:21:01
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OMG, I think this witchhunt on Madonna is beyond ridiculous!
What message does it send? "Do not even try to adopt a child from Africa!" ?
Would it have been a different story if David was adopted by a black celeb, Michael Jordan for instance?
Is it better for David to grow up at the orphanage, because his father placed him there, than with Madonna?
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jambo
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Posted - 29 Oct 2006 : 18:42:39
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babylon, it has become a witchhunt but she chose to jump the rules, and opened up the can of worms. please visit eye of the child, if there are rules in malawai that state a waiting time of certain months and she jumped the line,
what message does that send out. I AM NOT ADOPTION BUT I DO THINK IF PEOPLE CAN JUMP THE LINE BECAUSE THEY HAVE MONEY WHATS THAT ALL ABOUT.
MY last comment on this, i wish david could have been brought up by his father, i wish someone had helped him to cope |
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Babylon
Sweden
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Posted - 29 Oct 2006 : 19:32:13
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Well All adoptions cost a lot of money, so are all adoptions about buying a child then? There are so many children who needs a good home, security and to be cared for, and don´t ever get that chance of being adopted. Instead they grow up in misery at some orphanage or end up as street children or dead. An orphanage is not an ideal place for any child to be in, nomatter in what country.
David´s father can not take care of his son. So what is the problem if Madonna adopts and is capable of giving the child a good future? I think David is very lucky to have been adopted by Mads.
Does anyone know why it is so difficult to adopt from Malawi? What makes that country so special in particular?
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Sister Omega
United Kingdom
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Posted - 29 Oct 2006 : 21:18:22
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Sab posted in this comment to who is smiling now Mbay's thread(I hope you don't mind me posting it in here Sab) and I thought it fitted in perfectly into what effects this adoption may have on David when he is an adult.
Peace Sister Omega
"Of course the ‘Material Girl’s’ newly owned/brought child will have opportunities but they will not replace those of knowing his language, culture & religion, which are important indicators of identity.
He will also be able to see through his adopted mothers aspirations of him becoming ‘ambassador to Malawi,’ possible again through the chequebook.
As he matures he may find himself thinking about being owned.
Anyone contemplating adoption can buy the following book from the BAAF website.
In Search of Belonging: Reflections from 57 trans-racial & transnational adoptees; Kym, who is of Afro-Caribbean and was raised by a white family, talks about her pain in an excerpt from a book published on the British Association for Adoption & Fostering (BAAF website).
“For as long as I can remember, I have always felt different to the other members of my family – both in my physical and spiritual being.My parents were always honest about my adoption and, from an early age, I asked questions about why I was a different colour to them. At home, as an infant I distinctly remember being in a warm and loving environment yet, when I entered the outside world I received cold and hostile responses from the community around me.”
“It did not take long for the children to start saying what they saw and calling me ‘Blackie’. The boys in the school were particularly cruel and would constantly taunt me about my appearance. Over time this affected my self-esteem and I became withdrawn and isolated. I did not want to play with the other children and I sank into a deep depression. My parents tried their best, but they had difficulties relating to just how painful these comments were and how traumatic school was. To me it was living hell. They told me to ignore it, but I absorbed Western beauty ideals, which are geared towards long blonde hair and blue eyes. I would pray to God every night that I could be white and fit in with my family. I quite literally used to avoid looking in the mirror because I could not stand what I saw staring back at me. I cannot put into words the type of crippling emotional pain that I felt in my childhood. That led me to several suicide attempts.”
This book has been edited by Dr. Perlita Harris herself a trans-racial adoptee & a lecturer at Bristol University.
Children are the most vulnerable citizens in any society and the greatest of our treasures. (Mandela - Noble Peace Prize ceremony, Oslo Norway 1993)"
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Sister Omega
United Kingdom
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Babylon
Sweden
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Posted - 29 Oct 2006 : 22:10:43
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Am I reading correct betwen the lines here, that the main issue with this whole adoption thing is that Madonna is white and therefore is not capable of raising a black child?
I think it´s a goddamn tragedy that we in the year of 2006 still are so obsessed with race and when one who says Human race instead of categorising and labelling people after skin colour is considered unrealistic.
Are children better off without parents and homes in their countries than being adopted to white people? These are children, human beings we are talking about. why does it have to be a race question?
http://whirledview.typepad.com/whirledview/2006/10/madonna_and_chi.html
Let me do quick "a Cornelius" here... 
"Countless studies have shown that the race of the adopting parent has little to do with whether an adopted child matures into a healthy, emotionally secure adult. The key is that the home must be a loving, nurturing, and financially stable home. There is also little evidence that black children raised by white parents suffer permanent racial or cultural identity amnesia. Race and racism is still alive and well enough in enough places in American society to insure that black children can’t or won’t forget that they’re black."
More at: www.blackamericaweb.com/site.aspx/bawnews/stateof/hutchinsonreport1020
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mbay
Germany
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Posted - 29 Oct 2006 : 22:49:41
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| to be honest there is a littel load to put on Madonna!.believes it or not there will come out in this case as we were expecting.madonna may i said it again maybe hijacked the boy with money but definitely not with gun and even if it so(with the money)where we show our point finger and is there an trust worth in jungle case of David.WHAT A PITTY BOY YOU ARE PLYING WITH!. |
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LEMON TIME
Afghanistan
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Posted - 30 Oct 2006 : 02:09:09
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| SAy it Again Mbye-in English this time pls. |
There is no god but Allah |
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Cornelius
Sweden
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Posted - 30 Oct 2006 : 03:08:23
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As we both know, it's far too complex to generalise and life styles and environments can vary tremedously, Babylon.
"....... i wish david could have been brought up by his father, i wish someone had helped him to cope."
Some childhoods are more happy than others. In that opinion poll I'd say that an adopted child is likely to have momentary periods of - sadness.
Not that anyone can prevent David contacting his family in Malawi when he is old enough and wishes to do so.
http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=white+adoption+of+black+children&prssweb=Search&ei=UTF-8&fr=slv2-&x=wrt
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mbay
Germany
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Posted - 30 Oct 2006 : 09:19:27
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Oh Lemon Time sorry but i can`t read or write much in English as you can see it.why can`t you be a kind with your help that i may also one day come out with better English.
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Originally posted by LEMON TIME
SAy it Again Mbye-in English this time pls.
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