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Babylon
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 Posted - 30 Oct 2006 : 17:02:36
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White people canīt raise black children... such obsolete, racist BS belongs in the 1800s. I canīt believe how people still can be so narrow minded.
I am white and my kids are black, so I am not capable of raising them the "right way" because of that? There are black people who know absolutely nothing about African culture, and they can raise black children better only because of theyīre black? Michael Jackson is black too (wether he likes it or not) so that would make him a better parent to baby David? That donīt make any sense at all. Sorry if I sound angry but I can not tolerate any kind of racism from whites, blacks, asians or whoever. It is a sick way of thinking period.
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Galo Sowe
Sweden
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Posted - 30 Oct 2006 : 17:29:02
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Originally posted by Babylon
White people canīt raise black children... such obsolete, racist BS belongs in the 1800s. I canīt believe how people still can be so narrow minded.
I am white and my kids are black, so I am not capable of raising them the "right way" because of that? There are black people who know absolutely nothing about African culture, and they can raise black children better only because of theyīre black? Michael Jackson is black too (wether he likes it or not) so that would make him a better parent to baby David? That donīt make any sense at all. Sorry if I sound angry but I can not tolerate any kind of racism from whites, blacks, asians or whoever. It is a sick way of thinking period.
You can't be white and call your children Black. They are mixed |
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Babylon
Sweden
691 Posts |
Posted - 30 Oct 2006 : 17:40:24
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But I can too, if I follow the ODR... 
Arenīt all mixed ppl in the states considered black? Like Halle Berry "The first BLACK woman to win an Oscar"... etc.
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Galo Sowe
Sweden
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Posted - 30 Oct 2006 : 17:51:47
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Originally posted by Babylon
But I can too, if I follow the ODR...
Arenīt all mixed ppl in the states considered black? Like Halle Berry "The first BLACK woman to win an Oscar"... etc.
Ok! They are Swedish Colour doesnt matter when it comes to child up-bringing specially when they are your own blood. |
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Babylon
Sweden
691 Posts |
Posted - 30 Oct 2006 : 17:57:33
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Sister Omega
United Kingdom
2085 Posts |
Posted - 31 Oct 2006 : 00:02:26
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This topic is a controversial one and emotions are bound to be heated. I have three children whose father is mixed race African Trinidadian/European British and two sons whose father is Senegambian. I have three siblings who are mixed African Jamaican and Asian Jamaican, and four siblings who are African Jamaican. So transracial and transcultural relationships are not a new phenonia to me. What I would say is that mixed raced children need to have a holistic image of self to feel positive about themselves otherwise it leads to a lot of confusion about their identity. This has been brought to my attention throughout my life with mixed race friends who have spoken about their experiences, and those who have encountered the most problems are those who have not been able to identify with their African/Caribbean Culture in their childhood growing up in prodominantly white British Society.
Anyway I was scanning the net just to see whether or not I could bring some balance to the subject of transracial adoptions by investigating whether there are cases of black parents adopting white children. Guess what I found none, but I did see white children born from black parents, and black children born from white parents i.e Sarah Laing a South African Woman who was reclassified under the apathied system. Then I came across one of the reasons why white babies are so much harder to adopt in the United States , which was rather alarming considering the facts that adoption fees for an African American child in Washington is $4,000 compared to a white baby adoption fees of $35,000. You might find this interesting http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=91834&page=1
Peace
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gambiabev
United Kingdom
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Posted - 31 Oct 2006 : 09:09:07
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Sister Omega, you have a very interesting background, christmas in your house must be fun and crowded!
In a PERFECT world I think most people would agree that adoption or fostering is BEST done by a closest match culturally and religiously.
HOWEVER when that close match is not available, then it is also agreed by most professionals that children do better in a family environment than a care environment.
SO in Madonna and Davids case it would have been best if he could have been raised by an aunt or grandma, but given that he was already in a care home situation the alternative with Madonna will HOPEFULLY be better for him. Only time will tell.
The difference in price between a black and white baby is probably due to supply and demand. Do more white couples want to adopt? Do less white women have unwanted pregnancies (ie have more abortions?) leaving the market for white babies short of supply? Do more black people do unofficial adoptions raising children of sisters and so on...............
The whole idea of unwanted babies and paying for a child whether black or white is very very sad. Every child should be a wanted and much loved child in a perfect world. We have more possibilities for birth control than ever before. It is just not necessary. |
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serenata
Germany
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Posted - 31 Oct 2006 : 13:03:25
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Originally posted by Sister Omega
I have three children whose father is mixed race African Trinidadian/European British and two sons whose father is Senegambian. I have three siblings who are mixed African Jamaican and Asian Jamaican, and four siblings who are African Jamaican.
Sister Omega, you are the expert. What a colourful family! 
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Then I came across one of the reasons why white babies are so much harder to adopt in the United States , which was rather alarming considering the facts that adoption fees for an African American child in Washington is $4,000 compared to a white baby adoption fees of $35,000.
If I get you right and these are official fees, the blatant racism of the US authorities is shocking. |
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Sister Omega
United Kingdom
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Posted - 31 Oct 2006 : 16:23:02
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I forgot to mention my grandaughter who is hertiage also includes Angola and Cuba. Yes I am blessed with the family I have. Yes I agree the Americans are blatant racism in a America all children up for adoption should be equal under the law.
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Cornelius
Sweden
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Posted - 31 Oct 2006 : 19:57:40
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| They all are and so are we. By law. |
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njucks
Gambia
1131 Posts |
Posted - 31 Oct 2006 : 20:43:42
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Originally posted by Sister Omega
.......... which was rather alarming considering the facts that adoption fees for an African American child in Washington is $4,000 compared to a white baby adoption fees of $35,000.
well without getting all the info, its difficult to know the fact. these'cost' are probably associated more with the expenses the agency pays to aquire a baby from a minority background for adoption. it is very likely that poor single mothers from minoty background would give up their babies than any other social group.
it is not the skin colour of the baby but how the baby ended up for adoption and the associated costs . |
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kobo
United Kingdom
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kiwi
Sweden
662 Posts |
Posted - 02 Nov 2006 : 14:20:47
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Yet another paper writes I offered Davidīs father to take him back but he said no says Madonna.
This adoption story has become a real soap opera one could laugh at, if it wasnīt for a boy, 1 year old. The whole business went through too hasty, there are reasons for why an adoption procedure usually takes a long time.
I am sure Madonna had good intentions and will most probably be a good mother but itīs not enough. She can coupe with the press but not the father. All hustle has done a lot of damage.
Someone said: It's important to her that she doesn't place him in a white culture that has nothing to do with his place in the world. It sounds peculiar to me. Why place him in a world which you already know is not his place? Though culture is not in oneīs DNA but is a creation of enviroment and upbringing. The boy is in the beginning of his cultural development, he has all the possibilities to adopt Madonnaīs version of western culture.
More reading:
http://talesofthestupid.blogspot.com/2006/10/it-takes-village-to-adopt-popstar.html |
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