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kondorong
Gambia
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 Posted - 16 Oct 2006 : 21:56:07
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Originally posted by kobo
Selected topical updates from a cross-section of opinions interesting reading and analysis of Gambian democracy under
BBC NEWS COVERING PRESIDENTIAL ELECTIONS:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/5369040.stm
and under
Gambia leader throws beach party after re-election
http://www.tiscali.co.uk/news/newswire.php/news/reuters/2006/09/23/world/gambia-leader-throws-beach-party-after-re-election.html&template=/news/templates/newswire/news_story_reuters.html
Originally ectracted by Cornelius.The History of the Gambia is still in the making!
http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2006/09/24/africa/AF_POL_Gambia_Elections.php
GAMBIANS COMMITTED TO DEMOCRACY, REPORTS DR SALIM
http://www.gambia.dk/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=1981
Gambia: The Controversial Leader's Victory is the Voice of the People
http://allafrica.com/stories/200610050660.html
Gambia: Gambians; Overcoming the Fear http://allafrica.com/stories/200610050659.html
Foreign observers thumb-up Gambia’s election process
http://www.observer.gm/enews/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=5828&Itemid=33
Dr Salim lauds IEC http://www.observer.gm/enews/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=5827&Itemid=33&PHPSESSID=5b62eb17ed71a93b5b9a8f9dd90a3fdd
MAIN POINTS EXTRACTED FROM ABOVE OBSERVERS REPORTS:
"The Independent Electoral Commission deserves to be congratulated for a job well done. On the basis of the above, we are inclined to conclude that on the election day, the process was well organised and things went smoothly. The voters were able to express their will and the result will reflect their wish. A presidential election is a process. We have been made to be aware of events in the lead up to the election day which might have impacted on the outcome. The timing of the president’s Dialogue with the People tour and the open demonstration of support by public officers for a particular party, especially those in the security services, have the potential of affecting the level of the playing field. These as well as other manifestations of abuse of incumbency will be considered and form a part of our overall judgement of the entire process.
The election was held amidst the background of commonwealth brokered Memorandum of Understanding (MOU) for political parties as concluded on 2 September 2005. That understanding created an atmosphere conducive for the strengthening of the democratic process in The Gambia. Significantly, all the political parties who have met with us declared their recognition of and support for the MOU. It is nonetheless a fact that the MOU has not been adhered to. It is our considered judgement that whatever the outcome of the election, in the interest of stability, understanding and cooperation, the political parties should endeavour to adhere to the spirit and letter of the MOU"
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Security Chiefs reject allegations http://www.observer.gm/enews/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=5599&Itemid=33&PHPSESSID=92d803949145fe458f3fbaa93656ce19
COMMENT!
"DECREE 45 has been invoked above and don't know why the activities of IEC and NIA is not subjected to Public Accountability through the house and legislative members? Do we still need DECREES OR DECRIES certain activities of Law Enforcement Agents and Agency?"
Gambia: Commonwealth Cries Foul As Jammeh Wins Landslide Victory
http://allafrica.com/stories/200609251116.html
CIVIL SOCIETY OBSERVERS IMPRESSED, BUT…
http://www.gambia.dk/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=1941 P1
Gambia: Stakes in Gambia's Political Wrangle under http://allafrica.com/stories/200610160738.html
Gambia: Jammeh 'Won', But the Writing Was on the Wall for Opposition under
http://allafrica.com/stories/200610060031.html
NADD Flag bearer on the Election
http://www.gambia.dk/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=2010 P1
DARBOE REJECTS ELECTION RESULTS
http://www.gambia.dk/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=1925
THE DANGERS OF AN UNINFORMED CITIZENRY under http://www.gambia.dk/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=2017 P1
In my opinion any faith or future of Gambian democracy depends on proper scrutiny of all these articles and take note of any valid point in the interest of certain sensibilities, maturity, competence, professionalism, patriotism and sense of national duty for PEACE, PROGRESS AND STABILITY!.
God bless the Gambia!
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kobo
United Kingdom
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Posted - 16 Oct 2006 : 22:05:16
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Thanks Kondorong. That completes the three points.
Why highlight all those materials? They are on a SYSTEM i.e. GAMBIAN DEMOCRACY and not on any INDIVIDUAL i.e people! Don't interupt its form and content or style of presentation to defeat or manipulate its purpose i.e THE VITAL MESSAGES!
GREAT MINDS DISCUSS IDEAS! AVERAGE MINDS DISCUSS ISSUES! WEAK MINDS DISCUSS PEOPLE!
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kayjatta
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Posted - 16 Oct 2006 : 23:08:09
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I don't think the opposition should boycott the coming national assembly elections. Having lost the presidential election , the next best thing is for them to try to control or atleast have a significant influence in the National assembly.
It is gonna be a tough job but they need to campaign vigorously against the APRC. They need to campaign on an agenda of the following (please add your ideas to this grwing list):
- term limits for presidency
-Strenghten the judiciary and guarantee freedoms and liberty for
citizens and the media. No public official can sue for libel
and defamation unless you can prove "actual malice".
-privatize (remove from the hands of the government) GRTS.
- the separation of political parties from the hands of the
executive.That the president cannot select or dismiss a NA
member.
- Strongly counter the notion perpetrated by APRC that an
opposition constituency will not receive national development
projects.This borders on illegality since all constituencies
pay tax to the APRC government.
-they need to attack Jammeh and his programs and create a
different picture of APRC in the public mind.
-they should at some point consider challenging the election
results in court if there is a provision in the laws of the
Gambia.
Meanwhile to surrender the fate of the Gambia to the reports by the BBC and the Election Observers in my opinion is to call for complacency and it is perhaps naive. The Observers have said it clear that "elections are a process" and they only observed a small part of that process which is the voting part , it is clear that the competency of their report is limited to the voting day , not the registration and the bad faith campaign and intimidation conducted by the incumbent.
As soon as the NA assembly convenes I hope some kind of a bill is introduced in favor of a term limit. And I hope Jammeh will play into the hands of his opponents by dissolving the legislative branch.I think he is too smart to do that, because they will be the start of his immediate collapse .Even if the bill fails the ensuing political "storm" will bring the matter to the forefront of national and to a lesser degree international issues.
I also wonder what happened to the vast social capital of our days in the Gambia. Those recurrent symposia and student activities at Father Farrell , Gambia high school hall and others?
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Dalton1
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Posted - 16 Oct 2006 : 23:23:31
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As of yesterday, news from home is that the oppositions are contesting as one coalition. see lead story on Gainako later.
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"There is no god but Allah (SWT); and Muhammad (SAW)is His last messenger." shahadah. Fear & Worship Allah (SWT) Alone! (:
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kobo
United Kingdom
7765 Posts |
Posted - 16 Oct 2006 : 23:25:39
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Originally posted by kayjatta
I don't think the opposition should boycott the coming national assembly elections. Having lost the presidential election , the next best thing is for them to try to control or atleast have a significant influence in the National assembly.
It is gonna be a tough job but they need to campaign vigorously against the APRC. They need to campaign on an agenda of the following (please add your ideas to this grwing list):
- term limits for presidency
-Strenghten the judiciary and guarantee freedoms and liberty for
citizens and the media. No public official can sue for libel
and defamation unless you can prove "actual malice".
-privatize (remove from the hands of the government) GRTS.
- the separation of political parties from the hands of the
executive.That the president cannot select or dismiss a NA
member.
Good luck guys.
All these points Kayiatta are government agendas and they assume responsibilities and control to make things happen the way you perceived them or the way they want it done based on their programs and priorities.
The others are wishful thinking as the resources are not available for the opposition to tackle them. Its just going to be another formal blessing of the election results AND A BLESSING IN DISGUISED FOR APRC ONE PARTY SYSTEM ENDORSED IN PRINCIPLE THROUGH THE BALLOT!.
Am sorry to emphasise that THERE IS NO ROOM FOR PROTESTS, PETITIONS, CRYING FOUL, CHALLENGING THE RESULTS THROUGH THE COURTS OR WEEPING, IF THERE ARE UPSETS AND SHOCKING RESULTS AFTER THE NATIONAL ASSEMBLY ELECTIONS!
Good luck!
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kobo
United Kingdom
7765 Posts |
Posted - 16 Oct 2006 : 23:47:11
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Originally posted by Dalton1
As of yesterday, news from home is that the oppositions are contesting as one coalition. see lead story on Gainako later.
They should have been decisive during the presidential elections but only to live with regrets. Tactical alliance is another option and hopefully might make a difference.
However am not optimistic to see any significant impact. It can't change tides in favour of APRC but could make a marginal difference of present status quo. |
Edited by - kobo on 16 Oct 2006 23:55:35 |
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kobo
United Kingdom
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kobo
United Kingdom
7765 Posts |
Posted - 17 Oct 2006 : 04:49:49
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In my opinion any faith or future of Gambian democracy depends on proper scrutiny of all the following articles and take note of any valid point in the interest of certain sensibilities, maturity, competence, professionalism, patriotism and sense of national duty for PEACE, PROGRESS AND STABILITY!.
Selected topical updates from a cross-section of opinions, interesting reading and analysis of Gambian democracy under
BBC NEWS COVERING PRESIDENTIAL ELECTIONS:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/5369040.stm
and under
Gambia leader throws beach party after re-election
http://www.tiscali.co.uk/news/newswire.php/news/reuters/2006/09/23/world/gambia-leader-throws-beach-party-after-re-election.html&template=/news/templates/newswire/news_story_reuters.html
Originally ectracted by Cornelius.The History of the Gambia is still in the making! http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2006/09/24/africa/AF_POL_Gambia_Elections.php
Gambia: No End in Sight for Abuse of Press Freedom
http://allafrica.com/stories/200609260844.html
GAMBIANS COMMITTED TO DEMOCRACY, REPORTS DR SALIM
http://www.gambia.dk/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=1981
Gambia: The Controversial Leader's Victory is the Voice of the People http://allafrica.com/stories/200610050660.html
Gambia: Gambians; Overcoming the Fear http://allafrica.com/stories/200610050659.html
Foreign observers thumb-up Gambia’s election process
http://www.observer.gm/enews/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=5828&Itemid=33
Dr Salim lauds IEC http://www.observer.gm/enews/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=5827&Itemid=33&PHPSESSID=5b62eb17ed71a93b5b9a8f9dd90a3fdd
MAIN POINTS EXTRACTED FROM ABOVE OBSERVERS REPORTS:
"The Independent Electoral Commission deserves to be congratulated for a job well done. On the basis of the above, we are inclined to conclude that on the election day, the process was well organised and things went smoothly. The voters were able to express their will and the result will reflect their wish. A presidential election is a process. We have been made to be aware of events in the lead up to the election day which might have impacted on the outcome. The timing of the president’s Dialogue with the People tour and the open demonstration of support by public officers for a particular party, especially those in the security services, have the potential of affecting the level of the playing field. These as well as other manifestations of abuse of incumbency will be considered and form a part of our overall judgement of the entire process.
The election was held amidst the background of commonwealth brokered Memorandum of Understanding (MOU) for political parties as concluded on 2 September 2005. That understanding created an atmosphere conducive for the strengthening of the democratic process in The Gambia. Significantly, all the political parties who have met with us declared their recognition of and support for the MOU. It is nonetheless a fact that the MOU has not been adhered to. It is our considered judgement that whatever the outcome of the election, in the interest of stability, understanding and cooperation, the political parties should endeavour to adhere to the spirit and letter of the MOU"
END OF QUOTE
Security Chiefs reject allegations http://www.observer.gm/enews/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=5599&Itemid=33&PHPSESSID=92d803949145fe458f3fbaa93656ce19
COMMENT!
"DECREE 45 has been invoked above and don't know why the activities of IEC and NIA has not subjected to Public Accountability and probity through the house and legislative members? Do we still need DECREES OR DECRIES certain activities of Law Enforcement Agents and Agency?"
Gambia: Commonwealth Cries Foul As Jammeh Wins Landslide Victory http://allafrica.com/stories/200609251116.html
CIVIL SOCIETY OBSERVERS IMPRESSED, BUT…
http://www.gambia.dk/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=1941 P1
Gambia: Stakes in Gambia's Political Wrangle under http://allafrica.com/stories/200610160738.html
Gambia: Jammeh 'Won', But the Writing Was on the Wall for Opposition http://allafrica.com/stories/200610060031.html
ELECTION FREE & FAIR, DEMOCRACY NEEDS SUPPORT under http://www.observer.gm/enews/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=6074&Itemid=33&PHPSESSID=bbb6a0b78b127d23994ba9aed4d03e19
NADD Flag bearer on the Election PART 1
http://www.gambia.dk/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=2010 P1
NADD Flag bearer on the Election PARTS 2&3
http://www.gambia.dk/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=2016 p1
DARBOE REJECTS ELECTION RESULTS
http://www.gambia.dk/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=1925
THE DANGERS OF AN UNINFORMED CITIZENRY under http://www.gambia.dk/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=2017 P1
COMMENTS ON PRESIDENT JAMMEH'S ACHIEVEMENTS UNDER APRC!
The laudable achievements are acknowledge to be massive developments for Gambia but THOSE ACHIEVEMENTS ARE SHROUDED OR BECAME CLOUDY UNDER CERTAIN WEAKNESSES, UNATTENDED ISSUES, CONDITIONS AND POLITICAL CLIMATE THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED, IMPROVED, RE-ORIENTATION, RECTIFICATION FOR FURTHER DEVELOPMENTS IN THE INTERESTS OF PEACE, PROGRESS AND STABILITY!
There are further tasks and challenges that lie ahead for the President and APRC to develope Gambia in all disciplines and sectors including Gambian democracy and human rights for A BETTER GAMBIA!
May God grant the President the wisdom, strength, courage for mercy, good governance, Gambian technocrats, professionals and patriots to further move the Gambia forward! May God guide the Justice system, our Police, Arm forces and Law enforcement agencies on their roles and dispensation of duties to society; with professionalism, impartiality and patriotism and for Justice to take its course at all times and always better than prevailing circumstances under NEW ERA and beyond the 21st Century!Ameen!
WARNING FOR THE OPPOSITION PARTIES!
Am sorry to emphasise and re-iterate again that; BY CONSIDERING CERTAIN RESOLUTIONS AND HAVING RESOLVED TO CONTEST THE NATIONAL ELECTIONS IN GOOD FAITH, THERE ARE NO ROOM FOR PROTESTS, PETITIONS, CRYING FOUL PLAY, DISGRUNTLEMENT, WEEPING, MOANING AND CHALLENGING THE RESULTS THROUGH THE COURTS, IF THERE ARE UPSETS AND SHOCKING RESULTS AFTER THE NATIONAL ASSEMBLY ELECTIONS!
In my opinion, as it stands President JAMMEH AND APRC WERE HANDLING STATE AFFAIRS OVER A DECADE TO MAKE THEM MORE MATURE AND EXPERIENCED, THEREFORE THEY HAVE BEEN OUTPACED SERIOUSLY AND GRADUALLY MAKING THEM MORE UNPOPULAR, INEFFECTIVE AND REDUNDANT (BY NOT CONTRIBUTING NOTHING IN POLICY ISSUES)!!!
Having already lost the Presidential elections, if they losts the National Assembly electioions again they must resolved under the present new era (for next five years) that they would try to reconciled themselves on NATIONAL UNITY and support the realities happening in developments, assist on policy issues to addressed certain lapses, weaknesses by tabling alterantives, new tasks and challenges for ruling government.
GREAT MINDS DISCUSS IDEAS! AVERAGE MINDS DISCUSS ISSUES! WEAK MINDS DISCUSS PEOPLE!
God bless the Gambia! |
Edited by - kobo on 17 Oct 2006 17:33:39 |
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kondorong
Gambia
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Posted - 17 Oct 2006 : 18:19:54
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Originally posted by kobo
Thanks Kondorong. That completes the three points.
Why highlight all those materials? They are on a SYSTEM i.e. GAMBIAN DEMOCRACY and not on any INDIVIDUAL i.e people! Don't interupt its form and content or style of presentation to defeat or manipulate its purpose i.e THE VITAL MESSAGES!
GREAT MINDS DISCUSS IDEAS! AVERAGE MINDS DISCUSS ISSUES! WEAK MINDS DISCUSS PEOPLE!
Kobo
I did not highlight them. You did. I only used the reply with quote button which reproduces postings. Please check your posting. |
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kondorong
Gambia
4380 Posts |
Posted - 17 Oct 2006 : 18:26:08
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Originally posted by Dalton1
As of yesterday, news from home is that the oppositions are contesting as one coalition. see lead story on Gainako later.
Infact they are better off participating as they did during the recent elections. A unified opposition now will be their final nail on the coffin.
It makes them look indicisve. If they are thinking of coming together, why did they not do that earlier. What has changed between the opposition parties which now warrants a united front. If the fropnt could not succeed becaus of principles, are they now diluting those principles. After all, would it not then be right to say that such principles had no basis in the first place to have led to dissoulution of the united front?
Better late than never but sometimes it pays to stick to ones guns. Flip flopping is not a good sign of leadership.
PEOPLE MAY FORGIVE YOU FOR THE POOR DECISIONS ONE MAKES, BUT THEY MAY NOT FORGIVE FOR NOT DECIDING. THE TWO ARE VERY DIFFERENT.
We need clarifications before they come together. |
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kobo
United Kingdom
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Galo Sowe
Sweden
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Posted - 17 Oct 2006 : 18:49:51
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Originally posted by kondorong
Infact they are better off participating as they did during the recent elections. A unified opposition now will be their final nail on the coffin.
......Better late than never but sometimes it pays to stick to ones guns. Flip flopping is not a good sign of leadership.......
PEOPLE MAY FORGIVE YOU FOR THE POOR DECISIONS ONE MAKES, BUT THEY MAY NOT FORGIVE FOR NOT DECIDING. THE TWO ARE VERY DIFFERENT.
We need clarifications before they come together.
I totally agree with Kondorong. I am of the opinion that they should contest on their individual party tickets so that each one of them know how much support they have.
However, tactictal aliance is a good idea and would save their resources. For example, PDOIS, NDAM or NRP could choose not to have candidates in areas where UDP has a strong following and UDP, NDAM or NRP could also tell their voters to vote for PDOIS in areas where they know PDOIS has a stronger following etc. Oposition NAMs could then have a united front in the Assembly. |
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kayjatta
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Posted - 17 Oct 2006 : 22:19:48
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| I think the opposition should come together as a coalition if they can . However , they will need to adequately explain their new twist of strategy to the Gambian people in other to avoid or reduce negative impression .I know the APRC will use their decision for a new merger as a campaign ridicule , but ultimately it could win them more votes and save them resources. |
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kobo
United Kingdom
7765 Posts |
Posted - 31 Oct 2006 : 16:40:20
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| Tactitcal alliance being promoted as reported from The Point Newspaper Headlines: Henry Gomez Advocates a United Opposition in NA Elections under http://www.thepoint.gm/headlines1339.htm |
Edited by - kobo on 31 Oct 2006 16:41:25 |
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kayjatta
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Posted - 31 Oct 2006 : 20:23:21
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| Thanks Kobo for this information. I stand for a united opposition in the Gambia. It might be the only chance for them to assert themselves and have any significant influence in the affairs of the nation.A strong opposition united in principle could dramatically transform the political landscape in the Gambia for good. |
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