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kumba
Gambia
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 Posted - 01 Oct 2006 : 00:20:09
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wel..wel...2 all gambians .... s tyme ....we av gt da chance 2 choose who we want 2 be our prsident so we did.... tyme will come and everyone will startin complainin agin...so am sayin dis 2 every wat ever happends kno one should complain......gambians r very unfair 2 dere selfs....lets be honest..after all we saw wat yayah jammeh did 2 our fellow gambians...we should jus imagine it like it was our family dat he did kill....we wont like it so lets be fair 2 our selfs......as wel all av seen all da bad thinks dat jammeh did and we still make him our prsident...i dnt blame....jammeh... i blame..us gambians...lets be honest...bt anywayz god s here he s nt sleepin...one dey will come...4 jammeh.....
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Ebra
Gambia
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Posted - 01 Oct 2006 : 07:10:50
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Kumba your this posting has no merit. How many thousand Americans are dying in the Gulf. Despite the fact that most americans disapprove the war in Iraq, but they still voted for President Bush, come on. Think about thousands of students given scholarship by Jammeh Foundation for Peace. Think about the RVH before 1994, the supreme court, Arch 22, Airport, Kombo coastal road, NBD roadnetwork, The ferry service, Street light all over the place Brikama an example, presidentail villas, Serrekunda Market, Brikama Market, Bwiam Hospital, Farafeni Hospital, Traffic lights, schools, TV, Gamtel, modernize Kanilai and constant power supply. You name them they are uncountable.
Under Baba Jawara's regime you have to tune Senegalese TV inorder to get visualize information around the world. Radio Gambia's frequency was very limited,I used to listen to their news through Radio SYD, not every part of the country can get the news clearly. Those are now history, lets be real on our arguments.
Jammeh is chosen by the electorates and back by the Almighty God, so if you are a true believer then you should not open your big fat ass mouth opposing nature's will. Will you be ready to come out plain and say what you've stated, I guess no, because if you do you will be a guest at the Shareton Hotel (Mile II). Sitting behind the keyboard hiding trying to instigate voilence or uprising will not be allowed. How many Gambians pray for someone to lead us whom the country's blessing lies under. Are all those prayers not answered by the lord. I don't think so.
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gambiabev
United Kingdom
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Posted - 01 Oct 2006 : 08:59:03
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All the good things done by the President are cancelled out by the terrible, corrupt, undemocratic way he treats his own people. The use of the police and security services AGAINST their own people is despicable. The imprisonment and torture of people without trial is terrible.
No amount of roads and building makes up for that fundamental flaw. |
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MADIBA
United Kingdom
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Posted - 01 Oct 2006 : 09:04:11
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Originally posted by Ebra
Kumba your this posting has no merit. How many thousand Americans are dying in the Gulf. Despite the fact that most americans disapprove the war in Iraq, but they still voted for President Bush, come on. Think about thousands of students given scholarship by Jammeh Foundation for Peace. Think about the RVH before 1994, the supreme court, Arch 22, Airport, Kombo coastal road, NBD roadnetwork, The ferry service, Street light all over the place Brikama an example, presidentail villas, Serrekunda Market, Brikama Market, Bwiam Hospital, Farafeni Hospital, Traffic lights, schools, TV, Gamtel, modernize Kanilai and constant power supply. You name them they are uncountable.
Under Baba Jawara's regime you have to tune Senegalese TV inorder to get visualize information around the world. Radio Gambia's frequency was very limited,I used to listen to their news through Radio SYD, not every part of the country can get the news clearly. Those are now history, lets be real on our arguments.
Jammeh is chosen by the electorates and back by the Almighty God, so if you are a true believer then you should not open your big fat ass mouth opposing nature's will. Will you be ready to come out plain and say what you've stated, I guess no, because if you do you will be a guest at the Shareton Hotel (Mile II). Sitting behind the keyboard hiding trying to instigate voilence or uprising will not be allowed. How many Gambians pray for someone to lead us whom the country's blessing lies under. Are all those prayers not answered by the lord. I don't think so.
Ebra that's an honest one. Gambians on the ground voted in Jammeh we in the diaspora have been away for ages what do we know abt Jammeh's endeavours bck home save details from those back home. Those details also are often bias depending on which side of the bread is buttered.
In order not to disrespect the Gambian electorate , i think we accept the results and let the opposition gets its act together before the NA elections. I hope Dabo won't boycott again and give the APRC the carte-blanche to do whatever they wish. Opposition is a vital ingredient in democracy. The opposition must be well strutured and must not be seasonal. They must be genuine and sow not the seeds of violence only for them to gain the sympathy of the west. By the way the west is no longer interested in us. Look at Darfur. The west is looking indifferent. Gambia is all that we have. Those in the diaspora wanting to go home can do so. Merely crying wolf is not an issue. Many hardcore Jammeh critics have been criss-crossing the Gambia without hindrance. Though the security know of their presence no harm came their way. Some of these people even settled and were given positions in the gov't. Jammeh doesn't own this country.
Lets be realistic. |
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MADIBA
United Kingdom
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Posted - 01 Oct 2006 : 09:07:10
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Originally posted by gambiabev
All the good things done by the President are cancelled out by the terrible, corrupt, undemocratic way he treats his own people. The use of the police and security services AGAINST their own people is despicable. The imprisonment and torture of people without trial is terrible.
No amount of roads and building makes up for that fundamental flaw.
Merely applying the British colonial legacy. Just one of the 'good' things Britain offered its smallest colonyhttp://www.americanheritage.com/articles/magazine/ah/1995/6/1995_6_47.shtml |
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gambiabev
United Kingdom
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Posted - 01 Oct 2006 : 09:50:40
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I agree the colonal legacy was terrible. BUT Gambia needs to look FORWARDS. Dont make excuses for your President. Colonalism is in the past. Gambians need to unite together to make a strong country. A democratic country with a healthy economy to support its own people.
It is a BIG job. It will take time. But open governance with accountability is a fundamental step on that road.Corruption needs to be stopped. It needs to become socially unacceptable, instead of a way of life. Those commiting corruption in government jobs of any kind should be sacked and made examples of.
My dream for Gambia is that every person that wants an education will receive one. That every person that wants employment will have a job. That Gambians will be able to travel freely to other countries for holidays. That good quality food and water will be available to all. That the mortality rate for children and for mothers in child birth will improve to be the same level as the west.
That the electricity supply will go out to the whole country. That the road system will improve so families can easily contact eachother.
I think all of these things in the year 2006 are basic human rights. I am sure there are many more things that could be added to the list.
People should be allowed to move around the country without being harrassed by their own police force and army. 'Stop and search' without due cause is an infringement of human rights. |
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Ebra
Gambia
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Posted - 01 Oct 2006 : 12:22:52
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Gambiabev, if there is no democracy in the Gambia you will never step your foot there. Britian is the most undemocractic state in the whole world. How can Queen, Prince and the royal family be better than the hard working people. The royal family having special priviledges over the entire nation, you call that democracy.
Gambiabev said "All the good things done by the President are cancelled out by the terrible, corrupt, undemocratic way he treats his own people. The use of the police and security services AGAINST their own people is despicable. The imprisonment and torture of people without trial is terrible".
Can you back/substantiate on your these statements. This is about Gambian issue and no pinto white elephant lady will dictate us what to do. Britian our former colonial master has done nothing absolutely to our state, violating the so call democracy (freedom of movement) but only to use us and denying our youths to enter their country in search of greener pastor. Greedy British. You always oppose Gambians to live in UK empahisizing of over staying, and wanted to talk about our national affairs. Did you remember the sick lady who was forcefully deported to Gambia sometimes ago. Thats British democracy.
How many Iraqi civilian are dying because of the US/UK intervention. The British soldier dying on the battle field never sign up to fight at foreign countries. They did sign up to defend their own country. They are force to station there. Is that democracy. Shut the hell up and have a life.
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MADIBA
United Kingdom
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Posted - 01 Oct 2006 : 12:47:48
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Originally posted by gambiabev
I agree the colonal legacy was terrible. BUT Gambia needs to look FORWARDS. Dont make excuses for your President. Colonalism is in the past. Gambians need to unite together to make a strong country. A democratic country with a healthy economy to support its own people.
It is a BIG job. It will take time. But open governance with accountability is a fundamental step on that road.Corruption needs to be stopped. It needs to become socially unacceptable, instead of a way of life. Those commiting corruption in government jobs of any kind should be sacked and made examples of.
My dream for Gambia is that every person that wants an education will receive one. That every person that wants employment will have a job. That Gambians will be able to travel freely to other countries for holidays. That good quality food and water will be available to all. That the mortality rate for children and for mothers in child birth will improve to be the same level as the west.
That the electricity supply will go out to the whole country. That the road system will improve so families can easily contact eachother.
I think all of these things in the year 2006 are basic human rights. I am sure there are many more things that could be added to the list.
People should be allowed to move around the country without being harrassed by their own police force and army. 'Stop and search' without due cause is an infringement of human rights.
Did i hear u right sack corrupt people? The next minute he hires and fires always. What do you want the poor man to do? Yes colonialism is in Past, but its effects are still there. 300years of British sucking the best of this small country, how can 12years completly erase that? Corruption is everywhere even Great Britain.
The system you dreamt of is indeed a dream but not for the Gambia alone even Great Britain should benefit from such. Are you telling me that England has given education to all those living there and wanting it? Is there zero un-emeployment in Britain? Good water supply and Electricity is good for everybody. But the bullying of the imperialists (britain and US) makes it difficult. Britain has most of its energy from nuclear plants, YET THEY REFUSE OTHERS TO BUILD THEIR OWN. Because they feel that onces contries build such facility they will be a bit independent from their cluthces. They give a lame excuse that they could build nuclear weapons. What a hyprocisy.
Did i hear you say go on holidays freely? Who is preventing who from going ON holidays certainly not Jammeh or his gov't. England is so wicked and mean with its visa system that hoards of genuine young gambians vying for higher education at present not available on home turf are rejected ON daily BASIS. Look madam don't pull the wool over our faces. The Gambians have come a long way to believe in themselves and refuse MENTAL SLAVERY.GOOD DAY |
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Ebra
Gambia
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Posted - 01 Oct 2006 : 13:14:25
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gambiabev
United Kingdom
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Posted - 01 Oct 2006 : 13:42:23
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Corruption is emdemic in Gambia, that ISNOT the case in the UK. MOST people in Uk are honest and trustworty. Corruption is the exception.
Education in the Uk is free and compulsory, so most people that want it do get it.
In the UK unemloyment isnt zero and there are black spots in some city areas. But most people can get some sort of job if they want one.
There is a BIG different between people being allowed to go to travel the world for a holiday and wanting to permanently reside in a country. We have discussed this many times before. I think any Africa person should be allowed to go to any other country in the world for a holiday (say up to a month). They must be able to support themselves whilst travelling and they must return home at the alotted time. If people didnt over stay perhaps more counrties would be willing to allow Africans in?
If the President made university education more freely available by expanding the university education within the Gambia, there would be no need for visas to travel to other countries. A government has a responsiblity to educate its own people. IF this happened perhaps more of the educated elite would stay at home are reinvest their knowledge in their own country. |
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gambiabev
United Kingdom
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Posted - 01 Oct 2006 : 13:48:22
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Ebra, you cant be serious..uk the least democratic country in the world???????   Sure we have the monarchy. But they are only figure heads!!! One day we will probably become a republic. That is part of our developing from our history too.
Tell me, if the UK is SO TERRIBLE, why do so many people from all over the world want to come and live here?
Is it because they think we owe them something because of colonialism? PAY BACK TIME?
Is it because they think the streets are paved with gold? That they will have a free and easy life living off the state?
Or is it because they see the uk as relatively safe, democratic, decent country to live in? The first two might have a little to do with for some people, but I think for the majority it is the later. |
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gambiabev
United Kingdom
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Posted - 01 Oct 2006 : 13:56:56
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What does 'pinto white elephant lady ' mean? I presume its an insult, but I dont understand it!
In Ramadam we are supposed to respect Muslims, but it obviously doesnt work both ways!!!
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Ebra
Gambia
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Posted - 01 Oct 2006 : 14:25:04
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Pinto here is the same as what the white folks used to name the black people as *****s. Thousand of British do go to Gambia and still wants to be there because of the peaceful atmosphere, democracy, young healthy guys (for sex) and the friendliness of our citizens. Corruption is everywhere, check out for yourself. Westerns call it lobbyist, good example is Jack Abramoff of USA. What cause Tom Delay majority leader of US congress to resign from his post is he not convicted of corruption.
How did UK have free education, is it not through the slaves who were used to build that nation. Where did those slaves come from. Why can't people have freedom to move to any state they want and live there in search of what you've already got. Whats wrong with Gambians staying in UK for the rest of their lives.
What makes British honest and trustworthy. I think is because of the opportunities open to them. Suppose Britain is as poor as Gambia then it will be the most backward place in the world because even you will hate to live there. |
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Ebra
Gambia
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Posted - 01 Oct 2006 : 14:38:46
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Gambiabev said "If people didnt over stay perhaps more counrties would be willing to allow Africans in?". This statement shows how racist you are.
What about your fellow whites no restriction on the amount of time to stay in UK. How do you expect a poor african to stay in your country, and not given work authorization to work and be able to live there. Stop working in UK for one year and see what will happen to you. You will surely turn your eyes on the state for social welfare benefits. |
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MADIBA
United Kingdom
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Posted - 01 Oct 2006 : 15:04:30
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Originally posted by Ebra
Gambiabev said "If people didnt over stay perhaps more counrties would be willing to allow Africans in?". This statement shows how racist you are.
What about your fellow whites no restriction on the amount of time to stay in UK. How do you expect a poor african to stay in your country, and not given work authorization to work and be able to live there. Stop working in UK for one year and see what will happen to you. You will surely turn your eyes on the state for social welfare benefits.
Well said. Even the welfare funds they resort to is made possible because of the heavy taxes immigrants from Africa, Asia and Eastern Europe pay from doing druggery jobs. AFrican PhDs are seen doing menial jobs here in the UK. Why? simply because they are black African. Look Madam don't let me spill the beans. |
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Edited by - MADIBA on 01 Oct 2006 15:17:32 |
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gambiabev
United Kingdom
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Posted - 01 Oct 2006 : 17:01:12
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SO far I have never claimed benefits, I have always worked. But if I did need to then I have paid my taxes and have a right to claim on the system.
Why would anyone expect something for nothing?
The education system in the uk is paid for by the high taxes we pay.
Likewise the health service. |
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