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serenata
Germany
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 Posted - 18 Jul 2006 : 15:04:18
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Iiiiiiiiiihh, Lemon Time, please change your avatar!!!!! It's sooo ugly, yuck!  |
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gambiabev
United Kingdom
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Posted - 18 Jul 2006 : 15:23:55
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From what I have seen of the treatment of children in school, there is too much harshness, too many beatings. Then the children pick on someone younger and beat hit them. I have never seen so much hitting and pushing between children.
Older people should be an example. A true man should never raise his hand to a women or a child. You should teach your children by spending time with them and advising them. They should want to please you out of respect for you. Not fear of a beating.
If women are considered equal to men, why would a man consider he has the right to beat her? It is a weak man that resorts to this, who cant win an argument with words, or accept with good grace a difference of opinion. |
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njucks
Gambia
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Posted - 18 Jul 2006 : 15:34:40
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i know when we were at school beating was normal. but i'm not sure but i think now it has been stooped or seriously reduced. i dont think its as common as before.
maybe i'm wrong |
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serenata
Germany
1400 Posts |
Posted - 18 Jul 2006 : 16:28:53
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| On my last trip to Gambia six months ago, I had this discussion with a family member who is a teacher. She insisted on beating the children, saying that otherwise they would never obey, and the parents would criticise her. It was a warm but barren discussion... |
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gambiabev
United Kingdom
3091 Posts |
Posted - 18 Jul 2006 : 16:39:03
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They do have very large class sizes to control. But even so what message does it send to a child to be hit? I think children learn best when they feel safe and loved and respected.
Of course there needs to be punishments as well as rewards. Perhaps this over use of control is why many Gambias dont question things? Perhaps it is drummed out of them at an early age. They learn to be compliant to get by. This isnt healthy for the soul!!!
The nspcc in uk has a zero tolerance message on hitting children. Personally I feel there is a BIG difference between a corrective tap from time to time and being routinely beaten.
In an ideal world I would NEVER have smacked my children, but very occasionally I lost it with them! I am ashamed of that. It was my failing.
As a teacher in UK if you hit a child you risk your career. |
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njucks
Gambia
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Posted - 18 Jul 2006 : 16:56:21
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''Perhaps this over use of control is why many Gambias dont question things? Perhaps it is drummed out of them at an early age. They learn to be compliant to get by. This isnt healthy for the soul!!!''
are we as a Nation or People under the microscope here???
i dont advocate for it, but as you said with such large classes might be neccesary at our stage in the development process. maybe i dont know?
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gambiabev
United Kingdom
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Posted - 18 Jul 2006 : 17:02:14
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| Oh yes, in england we had very large classes until recently. I was taught in a class of 46 in the 1960s. Now most classes are recommended to be less than 30. |
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sab
United Kingdom
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Posted - 18 Jul 2006 : 17:28:49
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| It is a reason when a person reaches adult and have a position of authority - they only know brutality... |
The world would be a poorer place if it was peopled by children whose parents risked nothing in the cause of social justice, for fear of personal loss. (Joe Slovo - African revolutionary) |
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kassma
334 Posts |
Posted - 18 Jul 2006 : 17:56:34
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| i'm proof that kids don't have to be beaten to turn out good, and my sister is the same also. its amazing how kids open to you if they have no fear, plus, when you treat kids well, they genuinely want to please you. plus, it gives them the chance to think independently and weigh the consequences with fear of a beating. |
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jambo
3300 Posts |
Posted - 18 Jul 2006 : 18:06:02
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sab and Kassma, i agree with you some of the schools i deal with in gambia operate a punishment policy, but no beatings, they put their hands on their heads for 15 mins, go to the headmaster and kneel outside the door, clean the school yard or toilets, being sent home.
The child learns discipline without the harsh beatings. I willnot and do not support corporal punishment. |
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jambo
3300 Posts |
Posted - 18 Jul 2006 : 18:09:29
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One of my pupils was continuously late for class, he was just not interested, I promised him that I would take him out of his home, out of school and he could go and work on the farm in Niumi, if he wanted to misbehave he could carry on, but not in school. He is now in school 30 minutes early for class. Its amazing what the threat of hard physically labour does. but i believe that this would be the same in the UK, do not let it happen, stop it at scource.
My neighbours child is 5, and they are happy he is going to school in september "Perhaps he will learn discipline there", it should be taught at home.
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njucks
Gambia
1131 Posts |
Posted - 18 Jul 2006 : 18:16:41
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quote:
Originally posted by kassma
i'm proof that kids don't have to be beaten to turn out good,
Kassa , modesty is one of the great virtues of mankind. |
Edited by - njucks on 18 Jul 2006 18:17:29 |
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sankahjang
USA
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Posted - 18 Jul 2006 : 19:54:15
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| I am lost. how did a topic on zainab turned into one on the education system in the gambia. is there any relation ainab fammeh and the gambian education system? |
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LEMON TIME
Afghanistan
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Posted - 18 Jul 2006 : 20:58:37
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| SANKAHJANG one topic leads to many on bantaba you should know by now unless you new. |
There is no god but Allah |
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jambo
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Posted - 19 Jul 2006 : 15:20:03
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sankahjang, welcome to bantaba things tender to wander off track. |
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