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kajaw
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 Posted - 27 Jun 2006 : 02:49:47
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Omega,
Someone must be impersonating omega in this forum. To tell you the truth, the article left me confused because certainly Sister Omega is smarter than what came across in the article.
1. There is not a whole lot of nostelgia about the PPP regeme. Only the few who still have their heads in the sand are still talking fondly of the PPP regeme it was a gang of thiefs not a government.
2. You seem not to get it in your head that people do not have faith in the electoral system. The system is broken and corrupt. Even if Nadd perticipated, there is no way they can get a majority. Even if they win a majority, the president can nominate 9 members of parliament to top that. FJC that you seem to love so much is one of those illigitimate parliamentarians. Comparing our electoral system to that of UK is naive beyond belief. In UK, there is a possibility of the oposition winning. In Gambia in the past election, thousands of people were transported to the gambia from Cassamance on government vehicles given regestration cards and allowed to vote. Some of these Senegalese were arrested by unsuspecting boader police with gambian voting cards. This has been well doccumented in the local press.
3. This FJC you love so much have been a prominent member of the PPP, so was her husband, father and brother. They switch collers faster than a chamelion.
4. You seem not to get it. What you should know is that the primary reason why people hate this regeme is not that it is corrupt, but that they have perticipated in so many murders. It has been listed here enough and i need not repeat them. Surly, if you tealize that this is a regeme that ordered the shooting of school children it might change your mind because i belief that being a mother and all you must be toughed by such tragedy. So we are apealing to the human being in you to recognize this regeme for what it truely is and that is a murderous corrupt regeme. It has already deligitimize itself.
5. In closing i will ask you the following:
a. Do you think gambian journalist deserve to be arrested without just cause and totured. If you want to find out whether these alligations are true, contact reporters without boarders, amnesty international, human rights watch ....These are well docummented cases of cruelty and brutality.
b. Do you still think theat solders who are arrested for planning to overthrow a government should be sumeraly executed and thrown in pits in the army barracks or do they deserve their day in court?
c. Do you think that politicians like Lamin Juwara deserve to be totured and stripped naked and made to sleep on a floor in a mosquito infested cell for weeks?
Please consider each of these questions carefully because these are just some of the questions Gambians are asking. I dont care much abbout what one feels about political groups like NADD, I personally have many issues with them and many of the politicians who represent them do not impress me. However, i have not lost the sense of where the blame lies. The blame lies squarely on those who are stealing murdering and toturing.
I am usually impressed with Deltons writings because they are often well reasoned but i would disagree with him about OJ. What people are doing and this includes delton is pick out few from amongst the PPP lot and say that those individuals were not corrupt. Well i could also say that Saikou Seesay was not corrupt because he took me to the stadium once but ofcourse it would be as silly as it sound. Unlike many of you, i had personal contacts with OJ. I have spent sometime at their home in serrekunda. I was friends with his nephew Pa Amadou. I have been to his sisters house just behind the Supermarket at Westfield. I know them personally as individuals and i must say that both Oj his brother, his sister and his nephew and niece are very caring and nice people. I have no hatred or malice towards them. However, my interactions with them at a personal level is no excuse for whatever they do in their professional and political life. OJ cannot be excused from the excesses of the JAwara regeme. I think some of you are letting their personal sentiments or prejudices to cloud your judgement. Just like you are all trying to find reason to excuse the excesses of the Jawara regeme, Sister Omega is looking for every reason to excuse the excesses of the Jammeh regeme. This is precisely why we seem to be in a confused limbo we are not willing to face up to the truth and it could bite us in the butt and we will not recognize it. The biggest problem gambians have is our baffling willingness to excuse bad behavior so long as it is our friends loved ones or ideological allies are the culprits. We never really want to summond the courage to call evil what it is. Some of you think that it is easy for me to tell the forum and the whole world that my own brother might have been part of that corruption and that when we have an accountable government he should be invistigated. It is not easy. I had to swallow my pride and risk making enimies in my own family to do it. Two days after i wrote that, my nephew who lives in New York sent me an e-mail chasticing me for calling his father corrupt. In fact, i had not called him corrupt because he has never been arrested or charged of corruption nor have i ever personally witnessed him taking bribes. With OJ, contrary to what Delton is telling us, he in fact, had to pay back to government some money after the end of those commissions of inquiry if my memory server me right. I will check to confem this for sure. You could doubt the legitimacy of the courts but once someone is there what is presented in evidence with receipts and numbers is hardly disputable expecially when the defense dose not object to their autenticity.
Fellows, i have little interest in who rules the country as long as they are serving the interest of the country. This OJ thing is not going away as Delton wants. OJ is presenting himself for public office and that made him a legitimate target for an scrutiny. Second, he had serve in public office and that made him elegible for scrutiny.
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Dalton1
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Posted - 27 Jun 2006 : 05:38:11
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Brother KJ,
"def-ghaa suf shi domodabi"[you applied sand to the peanut stew], OJ.
Your piece is well written, but i see the same thing that i been seeing in your pieces -"biasness to OJ", however we honestly look forward to that commission records you promise to research on. OJ's records, like any of those ppp or APRC adminstrators will speak for them. See my dice when you present the records. Fanan jamah !
For the records, i am not related to OJ. I am 27 yrs, so was never ppp.I met OJ only twice in a life time, last year's july 4th, and this year when he visited the US, under STGDP's invitation. My father is a sheperd (gainako), and my mum (rest in peace sweet mama !) was a business woman and hpousewife. They never were in politics. |
"There is no god but Allah (SWT); and Muhammad (SAW)is His last messenger." shahadah. Fear & Worship Allah (SWT) Alone! (:
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kobo
United Kingdom
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Posted - 27 Jun 2006 : 09:19:57
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| PPP regime is a foregone conclusion. What about the these days? Thats your challenge to tell the truth about accountability, stewardship and scrutinise the present order. We should be prgressive and not retrogressive. In my opinion they are not even comparable. |
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Janyanfara
Tanzania
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Posted - 27 Jun 2006 : 13:05:59
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Hey boy poulo and kobo(chaloo),
Please read kajaw's piece constructively.I happen to read it three times and I think he is perfectly right in every thing he said.Look we migh be friends to OJ or who ever in the former regime,but when it comes to the Gambia,we should always see only the Gambia and no "Mboka or musibeh ya or Teeri ya "here.
I reponded to kajaw's other piece because I wanted him to understand that all sections of the society was to blame for the corruption during Jawara days includding Badibu.
Jawara maybe a distant relative,but I believe he trained everybody within the ex PPP corruption because he only ask them to resign when found out that they've mismanaged state funds.We cannot seem to side with one and castigate the others that would be double standard and predilection.
If we stand today calling on the APRC regime to allow people excercise their free will of choosing who leads them and voicing out their views when those civil servants,despite their under oath vows, choose to steal and steal,not fearing the aftermat or here after as if they are not even faithful to their oaths or faiths and keeps blaming their predecessors for even their own faults,need to be told the truth for they said to us that because of the corruptness of the former PPP regime,was their main reason they took up arms to salvage us from hardship.
We who thought things should be better,should instead furge ahead to try and make the Gambia a conducive ,corruption free and democratic place for her people.Not trying to castigate one and siding with the other.
My belief is,
If OJ was never corrupt in those days,how did he manage to stay wthin the robbers empire and for so long?
If OJ was never corrupt how comes he holds one of the most important ministerial post amongst robbers?One thing is then true.Either he takes his share of the booty or he goes for it himself.
Why didn't OJ resign like Dr. Sedat Jobe did (withthe AFRC)if he felt then the system was not what he wanted for the Gambian people?
Dalton1,
You may not be related to OJ but you seem to be blinded by your love for him to realise that he was no better than his master Jawara whom he supported so well and did everything to make him stay.(When Jawara said he wanted to retire[Despite not meaning it] Your man and others wanted him to stay on for ever.
T(OJ)(Many of you,who go in OJ's defence have no clue what I mean by T.) ,but OJ and OTHERS I call "T" knows.I am not at him here,infact I used to tell him thatI don't even hate the people in the APRC,I only fight against corruption and defends Human Rights.I stand for Gambia and whether you are my relative or not,you shall hear voice if you go against our people.
However,I will not say much on the internet but who ever defends OJ must defend him on truth not just love for none of you are more friendly to him than me.The truth is no one in the then ppp was clean and(T.(oj) was as corrupt as Jawara.
It doesn't matter if one is related to OJ or not I know him to be very hard working and has the interest of the country at heart but that doesnot make him a prophet(blameless) no way.he was part of the same system.
Nobody is expected to dive in mud and come out clean with no trace of mud on your body.
Despite I agree 100% with kobo "they are not even comparable" (meaning PPP and APRC),but there still remnants of PPP roots within the APRC tree and now seems to hold certain major positions thus adding petrol to an already burning bush fire.So nothing can change.,it can only get worse.
The difference between the two(PPP/APRC) is former was too corrupt to even realise the people were suffering and they educated,sent childreen and boy boys to Europe/America ect out of the booty they steal while majority of Gambians were having five dalasis a day.
For the APRC these people don't even care who goes hungry and who is fed.All they know and care about is Jammeh is the only true and patriotic Gambian and to be Patriotic,you must support Jammeh.If not,you become an enemy of progress under their eyes.So who progresses by stealing millions is ok as long as you can shout loud about Jammeh's love for his country and his willingness to develop it.Some people are ready to kill for Jammeh(But I truely think they kill or want to kill because they can grab as much while Jammeh remains in power than when he goes).So they don't care what democracy is as long as they cook CHEIP,DOMODA,MEATBENECHIN ect every time they want and drive fat expensive cars.
They are joined by the remnants of the PPP group who felt they hadn't had enough of the booty during Jawara era and its their time to get their share as if the state coffers is secondhand bailled clothe and anybody can come and take a pick.Those who Joined from PPP have tried and now succeeded in getting the President's ears and they've filled it with corruption and greed.
Belief me,Jammeh may also stay for thirty-two years in power.Unless he naturally dies or some one succeeds to remove him.(Though I hate coups but as Jammeh said if you want to be president of the Gambia like him,you have to do what he did"meaning removing him by force".) This shows that he had either had the intention to stay indefinately in power like Jawara when he first came or He had listened to those corrupt brutes and now has learnt their trade well thus becaming more than them.And to add petrol to fire,He is ready to do anything to remain in power includding anything He can do and with all his might.....look up and you will see it written on the clouds!.As clear as the fifteenth shinning moon.He is not even thinking of the comming election.NO!What Jammeh now thinks of is who in his Army is thinking of removing him not an election he controls.
Now Gambians are left in limbo as the tide has changed.In Jawara days at least you can go against him without the fear of loosing your job but hei now you must not only openly support,you must be seen to encourage others to support even inside you don't or else,as Jammeh said you will be fired so that you sit and wait for your government to come.
(1)Where doest this leave poor Samba with three wives and six childreen working at KMC as a cleaner and would be fired if its known he supports the opposition?
(2)Where does this leave Auntie Anna whose husband is handicapped and she is the main strenght feeding and schooling seven.She occupied a very stretigic place at serekunda market selling palm-oil to keep the family going and she is sure to loose it if her opposition of the regime is known to the Kanifing Manicipality?
(3)Where does this leave Alh. G.G. Faal who was a muritainian businessman, came to the Gambia in the sixties as a foreigner but has many childreen here and was a strong supporter of PPP thus he gained citizenship and still wants to continue being Gambia and stay in business gaining government contracts?
(4)Where do this leave officer Nicol who is a secondary school drop-out but got his promotions through toturing opponents of the presidents and brutalising detained journalist,political prisoners ect,knowing too well he will face the same fate if he choose to voice-out his opposition to the oppression of Gambians?
(5)What is Seyfo Fanta expected to do?knowing he is not liked by his district but now He knows He can retain his chieftancy for life if He remain publicly loyal to the president and disregard the plight of his people?
(6)What is expected of commissioner S.Sanyang who knew He is not educationally qualified to hold a commissione's post but can retain his post if he becomes fully engaged in supporting Jammeh and castigating opposition supporters in his division?
Do we still continue to sit compare and contrast the two?
peace
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Sister Omega
United Kingdom
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Posted - 27 Jun 2006 : 15:31:22
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Kajaw spinning a yarn is not useful here I don't need to find any excuses for the government. In my analogy I was using in reference to the British system, it is incomprehensible for the British electorate to even conceive that any party regardless however close the election or how devastating it's loss wouldn't take up their seats in the elected chamber. As for the excuse of the Gambian system electoral roles unfairness. I put it to you Kajaw that it would of been better for the Opposition to take up their seats in the National Assembly, even if they had to employ their own private security guards to protect them than renege on their obligations to their electorate.
These decision to opt out of the NA was based mainly on egotistical concerns and greed not for the common good of Gambia's people who chose to vote for the Opposition. The Opposition seemed through their actions in 2001 to only interested in preserving self interest. For, if they were doing their jobs properly they would of put Gambia's future above their defeat, and work as a robust opposition balancing and checking government policies not leaving a vaccum and crying to the west for political assistance. How naive a strategy on behalf of the Opposition, it would of been a long shot during the Cold War. But since it's demise Gambia isn't strategic enough importance to western interests for it has no diamonds, oil, gold extra.
Kajaw we can mull over the past to see the errors in both regimes and Human Rights abuses which have been a consequence exclusion of populous right to self-determination and nepotism which has in many respects choked the holistic development of the nation since Gambian state was created.
However it is the present which counts for politicians, policymakers and think-tanks etc, shaping the future with a more foresighted vision of sustainable policies geared at future generations to profit from. This includes all sides of the NAM's who have a vision both the government of the day and opposition. For example as a parent when a child fails, a good parent will often advise the child to try and try again not to cut and run when the going gets tough. In that vein what example has the opposition set for Gambian Youths growing up today?
Actually some good may come out of this stale situation new parties will probably emerge from the grassroots to represent the disinfranchaised youth through like of confidence with leaders who don't represent their interests. And let's pray a state of tolerance provades in Gambia during 06 elections. The climate of reconciliation must continue for Gambia to be a mature political nature all parties should participate within the elections. Independent AU & UN observers can be called ito monitor the voting process if this is necessary to restore confidence for all those participating within the process hence restoring transperency this could solve the problem of lack of confidence within the Gambian electoral system.
Peace
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Peace
Sister Omega |
Edited by - Sister Omega on 27 Jun 2006 15:52:32 |
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kondorong
Gambia
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Posted - 27 Jun 2006 : 18:06:14
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quote:
Originally posted by Janyanfara
Hey boy poulo and kobo(chaloo),
Please read kajaw's piece constructively.I happen to read it three times and I think he is perfectly right in every thing he said.Look we migh be friends to OJ or who ever in the former regime,but when it comes to the Gambia,we should always see only the Gambia and no "Mboka or musibeh ya or Teeri ya "here.
I reponded to kajaw's other piece because I wanted him to understand that all sections of the society was to blame for the corruption during Jawara days includding Badibu.
Jawara maybe a distant relative,but I believe he trained everybody within the ex PPP corruption because he only ask them to resign when found out that they've mismanaged state funds.We cannot seem to side with one and castigate the others that would be double standard and predilection.
If we stand today calling on the APRC regime to allow people excercise their free will of choosing who leads them and voicing out their views when those civil servants,despite their under oath vows, choose to steal and steal,not fearing the aftermat or here after as if they are not even faithful to their oaths or faiths and keeps blaming their predecessors for even their own faults,need to be told the truth for they said to us that because of the corruptness of the former PPP regime,was their main reason they took up arms to salvage us from hardship.
We who thought things should be better,should instead furge ahead to try and make the Gambia a conducive ,corruption free and democratic place for her people.Not trying to castigate one and siding with the other.
My belief is,
If OJ was never corrupt in those days,how did he manage to stay wthin the robbers empire and for so long?
If OJ was never corrupt how comes he holds one of the most important ministerial post amongst robbers?One thing is then true.Either he takes his share of the booty or he goes for it himself.
Why didn't OJ resign like Dr. Sedat Jobe did (withthe AFRC)if he felt then the system was not what he wanted for the Gambian people?
Dalton1,
You may not be related to OJ but you seem to be blinded by your love for him to realise that he was no better than his master Jawara whom he supported so well and did everything to make him stay.(When Jawara said he wanted to retire[Despite not meaning it] Your man and others wanted him to stay on for ever.
T(OJ)(Many of you,who go in OJ's defence have no clue what I mean by T.) ,but OJ and OTHERS I call "T" knows.I am not at him here,infact I used to tell him thatI don't even hate the people in the APRC,I only fight against corruption and defends Human Rights.I stand for Gambia and whether you are my relative or not,you shall hear voice if you go against our people.
However,I will not say much on the internet but who ever defends OJ must defend him on truth not just love for none of you are more friendly to him than me.The truth is no one in the then ppp was clean and(T.(oj) was as corrupt as Jawara.
It doesn't matter if one is related to OJ or not I know him to be very hard working and has the interest of the country at heart but that doesnot make him a prophet(blameless) no way.he was part of the same system.
Nobody is expected to dive in mud and come out clean with no trace of mud on your body.
Despite I agree 100% with kobo "they are not even comparable" (meaning PPP and APRC),but there still remnants of PPP roots within the APRC tree and now seems to hold certain major positions thus adding petrol to an already burning bush fire.So nothing can change.,it can only get worse.
The difference between the two(PPP/APRC) is former was too corrupt to even realise the people were suffering and they educated,sent childreen and boy boys to Europe/America ect out of the booty they steal while majority of Gambians were having five dalasis a day.
For the APRC these people don't even care who goes hungry and who is fed.All they know and care about is Jammeh is the only true and patriotic Gambian and to be Patriotic,you must support Jammeh.If not,you become an enemy of progress under their eyes.So who progresses by stealing millions is ok as long as you can shout loud about Jammeh's love for his country and his willingness to develop it.Some people are ready to kill for Jammeh(But I truely think they kill or want to kill because they can grab as much while Jammeh remains in power than when he goes).So they don't care what democracy is as long as they cook CHEIP,DOMODA,MEATBENECHIN ect every time they want and drive fat expensive cars.
They are joined by the remnants of the PPP group who felt they hadn't had enough of the booty during Jawara era and its their time to get their share as if the state coffers is secondhand bailled clothe and anybody can come and take a pick.Those who Joined from PPP have tried and now succeeded in getting the President's ears and they've filled it with corruption and greed.
Belief me,Jammeh may also stay for thirty-two years in power.Unless he naturally dies or some one succeeds to remove him.(Though I hate coups but as Jammeh said if you want to be president of the Gambia like him,you have to do what he did"meaning removing him by force".) This shows that he had either had the intention to stay indefinately in power like Jawara when he first came or He had listened to those corrupt brutes and now has learnt their trade well thus becaming more than them.And to add petrol to fire,He is ready to do anything to remain in power includding anything He can do and with all his might.....look up and you will see it written on the clouds!.As clear as the fifteenth shinning moon.He is not even thinking of the comming election.NO!What Jammeh now thinks of is who in his Army is thinking of removing him not an election he controls.
Now Gambians are left in limbo as the tide has changed.In Jawara days at least you can go against him without the fear of loosing your job but hei now you must not only openly support,you must be seen to encourage others to support even inside you don't or else,as Jammeh said you will be fired so that you sit and wait for your government to come.
(1)Where doest this leave poor Samba with three wives and six childreen working at KMC as a cleaner and would be fired if its known he supports the opposition?
(2)Where does this leave Auntie Anna whose husband is handicapped and she is the main strenght feeding and schooling seven.She occupied a very stretigic place at serekunda market selling palm-oil to keep the family going and she is sure to loose it if her opposition of the regime is known to the Kanifing Manicipality?
(3)Where does this leave Alh. G.G. Faal who was a muritainian businessman, came to the Gambia in the sixties as a foreigner but has many childreen here and was a strong supporter of PPP thus he gained citizenship and still wants to continue being Gambia and stay in business gaining government contracts?
(4)Where do this leave officer Nicol who is a secondary school drop-out but got his promotions through toturing opponents of the presidents and brutalising detained journalist,political prisoners ect,knowing too well he will face the same fate if he choose to voice-out his opposition to the oppression of Gambians?
(5)What is Seyfo Fanta expected to do?knowing he is not liked by his district but now He knows He can retain his chieftancy for life if He remain publicly loyal to the president and disregard the plight of his people?
(6)What is expected of commissioner S.Sanyang who knew He is not educationally qualified to hold a commissione's post but can retain his post if he becomes fully engaged in supporting Jammeh and castigating opposition supporters in his division?
Do we still continue to sit compare and contrast the two?
peace
Janyanfara.
Hey is this a thesis or preamble of the book we are expecting |
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kobo
United Kingdom
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Posted - 27 Jun 2006 : 22:21:30
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Janyafara thats a whole lot of stuff! Hope that PPP is now exterminated now with what Kondorong also consider a thesis. Thanks for leaving no stones unturned.
However you appear to show your analysis and predictions are valid. Am sorry my brother you don't know how Jammeh will fell and what the future holds for Gambians. |
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kajaw
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Posted - 29 Jun 2006 : 01:27:38
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Sister Omega, i think you are thoroughly misinformed on this matter. You are suggesting that the oposition were elected and refused to serve. This is absolute nonsense. Let me brief you on the siquence of events.
1. The presidential election was held first. The oposition conceeded defeat but later found tangable evidence of fraud and like many gambians lost faith in the system so they decided not to contest the subsequent election. Now you may disagree with that and suggest tat they perticipate in the election whose very organizers have their intergrity questioned
2. You suggest inviting the AU and the UN as monitors. Where have you been? Havent you reliaze that Jammeh is adamently oposed to independant monitors of the elections. They probably condone observers who are usually functionally impotent. Jammeh will not argee to an impartial independant electoral commission no will he ever allow independant monitors so i put it to you that making even tasit comperisons to the British electoral system flies in the face of reason.
3. You talk about reconcliation: We all love our country very much and are all for reconcilation for our families live there and some of us still live there but you are neglecting one crucial issue. How can you reconcile without truth and justice? The reason why South African truth and reconcilation commission worked is that people came out of the shaddows and told everything they did and asked for forgiveness. To talk of reconcilation in the absence of full disclosure rings hollow it is like someone braking in to your house, raping your wife and stilling all of your valuables and meet you in the streets and suggest that you reconcile. What meaning is reconcilation to those who had their children killed by the security forces when the culprits were never brought to justice or even acknowledge their wrongs. If someone does all these bad things to me and genuinly seek forgiveness and perhaps return the loote and perhaps pay restitution to my wife and seek forgiveness, then we can talk of reconcilation but untill then, i will be seeking his head.
4. Why do we need to know the past:
This past is relevant because like our friend K said, the roots of the past are still clogging our soil. Until we weed those out clean the plot and nurture fresh new roots, we cannot expect much more than the harvests of the past. It is a tragic commentry but that is precisely why we need to know and acknowledge the past just so that we do not repeat its tregidies.
Some of the Nazy war criminals after WW2 were baffled that people were digging up the past and that trials were even being held. To them it is the present that mattered. Why talk about yesterday when we can move foreward they suggested. It is a false premise. It lacks credibility. The past is relevant and to understand it means to understand the future. Koro Seesay is said to have been killed by Yankuba Touray and the Sinagthe brothers. What would happen twenty years from now a relative of Koro seeks out and snuff out his killers. Would it not dreg up a past glossed over and buried under the sedements of indifference and lack of accountability. Would the ghosts of the past still be spooking us then? |
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kondorong
Gambia
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Posted - 29 Jun 2006 : 01:33:07
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CHETETETETETETETTEEEEEEET
LOLU JOLLI NA |
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LEMON TIME
Afghanistan
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Posted - 29 Jun 2006 : 01:43:41
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| INNA GILAI EHH.JESS NAA JIN-NE MANN. |
There is no god but Allah |
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Janyanfara
Tanzania
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Posted - 29 Jun 2006 : 02:00:01
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Hey my dear brother,
I always like to write thesis so that more facts can be spill in one volume.
You are quite right bro.Kobo but as I said earlier on,when this Boys came to power,it came at a time when there was in-fighting within Jawara's PPP and many old guards and new commers were at loggerheads and Jammeh was then Head of Military Police and he very well knew these.One of his Bosses,then Commander of State Guards Jawneh was Imprisoned but His Assistant who accompanied Jawara to Dakar Lamin Kaba Bajo came back and was offered a post then rose through the ranks to now become the secretary of state External Affairs.
The first person to betray his comrades was Bakary Bunja Darboe who never forgave his fellow robbers for not allowing him to take over from Jawara peacefully when he(Jawara)decided to step down.And after when Jawara made Saikou Sabally his new Vice president,and moved BB Darboe to finance ( who we kiangkas used to call Demba is OK but I said Demba is all wrong) thus demoting him,he felt betrayed , and when the coup came,then the Boys were looking for scape goats and found some within the old robbers...They said first "THE OLDMAN(JAWARA) WAS GOOD AND OK BUT MANY OF HIS FOLLOWERS(MINISTER AND TOP CIVIL SERVANTS) WERE CORUPT",when they gave BB Darboe the post of Finance Minister because he was then very popular within the circle as a new reformer, but alas,he greedily accepted the post without a second thought (political thieves don't work with revolutional thieves- it never work b4 and never will) no wonder he was publicly disgracedly fired thus he fled,abandoned his country and lives as a refugee in the UK here.Chongan and others also can't go home.
But thwe rest greedy then little and now master Ali ba ba robbers like Fatoumata Jahumpha whose family benefited hugely from the Ali ba ba and the thieves bouty, sided with Jammeh encouraged all her family( the likes of Bala former Adict who was cured with the stolen poor people's coffers by Jawara regime through the influence of Lay Chilel.Fatoumata realised that there is still chance to grab more so she waist no time to very strongly shout" Jammeh is grrrrrrreat!,Nyimansata S.bojang,Agie Fatou Sallah,E.K.Sarr,Buba Baldeh,Dr.Lamin "fansung Nafa" Saho,ect ect,joined to try their luck with the "aduu calpeh".No wonder Jammeh sometimes gets angry threatening to bury some six feet deep.He actually meant those "Samba Tuksels"
I sometimes respect Jammeh for he is not as stupid as some might think he really is.He decided to learn from these people as much as he can added to what he already knew and those whose idea he no longer needed,where accused and fired and some new robbers from PPP joined and some stayed and more are still joining.When JILANKA has had enough of them,he will fire all and stay with his own.
When I was a little Boy in the village,I remember when NCP comes to our village for a meeting, they will be mandinka songs and despite my mother being fula,I speach mandinka very well and I still remember some of those songs as most of them used to stay in our compound including Sheriff (Jooboo)Himself:
They sing songs like:
"Naah naata ala wurey(meaning Jawara).Ning Faraboo naata Ala wurey, presidang bondoo te bayela"...(which means "when he comes here, shame him when the leather smith comes,shame him,removing a president is eminent"
And one man from Jokadu would sing a song castigating hteir then Jokadu MP(then PPP MP Dr..Momodou.S.K.Manneh who now also joined the APRC hoping to find his share somewhere. As his former Senior robber, Thief Lamin kiti Jabang has found one ie..Ambassadeeeeer to Saudi Arabia)
The song ran like this:
"Mamadou Sanneh Manneh woo foroo fula dongooo teh kontongo fula sootola,Alafoo Manneh ye abaa ma dunta funtango la."
(meaning Momodou SANNEH/MANNEH with two surnames means his mum bla bla bla....
Do you think anyone can say such about any APRC minister today in Jilanka days and excape the NIA?
Gues....Are we still compairing and contrasting Jawara/Jammeh?
Now we can all see what kajaw means?Gambia now needs the truth and reconciliation but the past must be spilt to rectify the present and make the future better or else when Jammeh eventually goes,we may see another doom with witch hunts here and there.
God help the beatiful smilling coast---Gaaaaammmmmbbbbiiiia!
peace
Janyanfara |
Edited by - Janyanfara on 29 Jun 2006 02:10:46 |
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Posted - 29 Jun 2006 : 02:02:55
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Originally posted by Janyanfara
Hey my dear brother,
I always like to write thesis so that more facts can be spill in one volume.
You are quite right bro.Kobo but as I said earlier on,when this Boys came to power,it came at a time when there was in-fighting within Jawara's PPP and many old guards and new commers were at loggerheads and Jammeh was then Head of Military Police and he very well knew these.One of his Bosses,then Commander of State Guards Jawneh was Imprisoned but His Assistant who accompanied Jawara to Dakar Lamin Kaba Bajo came back and was offered a post then rose through the ranks to now become the secretary of state External Affairs.
The first person to betray his comrades was Bakary Bunja Darboe who never forgave his fellow robbers for not allowing him to take over from Jawara peacefully when he(Jawara)decided to step down.And after when Jawara made Saikou Sabally his new Vice president,and moved BB Darboe to finance ( who we kiangkas used to call Demba is OK but I said Demba is all wrong) thus demoting him,he felt betrayed , and when the coup came,then the Boys were looking for scape goats and found some within the old robbers...They said first "THE OLDMAN(JAWARA) WAS GOOD AND OK BUT MANY OF HIS FOLLOWERS(MINISTER AND TOP CIVIL SERVANTS) WERE CORUPT",when they gave BB Darboe the post of Finance Minister because he was then very popular within the circle as a new reformer, but alas,he greedily accepted the post without a second thought (political thieves don't work with revolutional thieves- it never work b4 and never will) no wonder he was publicly disgracedly fired thus he fled,abandoned his country and lives as a refugee in the UK here.Chongan and others also can't go home.
But thwe rest greedy then little and now master Ali ba ba robbers like Fatoumata Jahumpha whose family benefited hugely from the Ali ba ba and the thieves bouty, sided with Jammeh encouraged all her family( the likes of Bala former Adict who was cured with the stolen poor people's coffers by Jawara regime through the influence of Lay Chilel.Fatoumata realised realised that there is still chance to grab more so no time to waist" Jammeh is grrrrrrreat!,Nyimansata S.bojang,Agie Fatou Sallah,E.K.Sarr,Buba Baldeh,Dr.Lamin "fansung Nafa" Saho,ect ect,joined to try their luck with the "aduu calpeh".No wonder Jammeh sometimes gets angry threatening to bury some six feet deep.He actually meant those "Samba Tuksels"
I sometimes respect Jammeh for he is not as stupid as some might think he really is.He decided to learn from these people as much as he can added to what he already knew and those whose idea he no longer needed,where accused and fired and some new robbers from PPP joined and some stayed and more are still joining.When JILANKA has had enough of them,he will fire all and stay with his own.
When I was a little Boy in the village,I remember when NCP comes to our village for a meeting, they will be mandinka songs and despite my mother being fula,I speach mandinka very well and I still remember some of those songs as most of them used to stay in our compound including Sheriff (Jooboo)Himself:
They sing songs like:
"Naah naata ala wurey(meaning Jawara).Ning Faraboo naata Ala wurey, presidang bondoo te bayela"...(which means "when he comes here, shame him when the leather smith comes,shame him,removing a president is eminent"
And one man from Jokadu would sing a song castigating hteir then Jokadu MP(then PPP MP Dr..Momodou.S.K.Manneh who now also joined the APRC hoping to find his share somewhere. As his former Senior robber, Thief Lamin kiti Jabang has found one ie..Ambassadeeeeer to Saudi Arabia)
The song ran like this:
"Mamadou Sanneh Manneh woo foroo fula dongooo teh kontongo fula sootola,Alafoo Manneh ye abaa ma dunta funtango la."
(meaning Momodou SANNEH/MANNEH with two surnames means his mum bla bla bla....
Do you think anyone can say such about any APRC minister today in Jilanka days and excape the NIA?
Gues....Are we still compairing and contrasting Jawara/Jammeh?
peace
Janyanfara
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Janyanfara
Tanzania
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Posted - 29 Jun 2006 : 02:14:55
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| You well come my friend.The truth must be spilt. |
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LEMON TIME
Afghanistan
1295 Posts |
Posted - 29 Jun 2006 : 02:25:15
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| Welldone JANYANFARA, BRAVO,MUCH GEE,JAJEFF Y. |
There is no god but Allah |
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Janyanfara
Tanzania
1350 Posts |
Posted - 29 Jun 2006 : 03:08:50
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You wellcome,
LEMON TIME,but are you sweet lemon or bitter lemon? |
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LEMON TIME
Afghanistan
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Posted - 29 Jun 2006 : 11:00:25
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| IM both Janyanfara |
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