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Sister Omega
United Kingdom
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 Posted - 29 Jun 2006 : 23:55:56
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| I remember seeing just inside the Senegalese border ten years ago camps of Tukolors refugees not far from the Mauritania border who had been displaced.Didn't one time Fouta Toro stretch all the way to Morrocco before Mauritania came into existence and the border of Gambia stretched to Kaolack in Senegal before the French exchanged it with the British? |
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njucks
Gambia
1131 Posts |
Posted - 29 Jun 2006 : 23:57:04
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| in the final anaylsis there is no formula and if we try to see a pattern then exceptions appear |
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kondorong
Gambia
4380 Posts |
Posted - 30 Jun 2006 : 00:03:03
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Originally posted by njucks
kondorong i see you know you fulakan very well. anyway the wollof did not migrate to Mauritania they have been there since like the serer, these modern border are new and recent. rather they have been force to move south like the tukuleur. at the border in Futa Tooro you will find thousand of refugees waiting to go back home to Mauritania.
also i thought to be Nyancho both parents have to be nyancho and if only the father is then its Koring (sonko/sanyang). atleast thats what i remember reading?
also i think the Kinteh in Jufure might have come from badibu not Kiang as you said?
also i think binary surnames can be found even with fula/mandinka
SaidyBah, SiadyKhan,JarjuSey etc
i'm i right?
Yes they are the same. Always with a red thread. The Fulani especially the JENGELS AND MANDINGO WOMEN LIKE IT AND ALSO THE WOLLOF. You see the bling bling in the U.S. in the African American community is nothing new. Even the tatoos are not new. We have what we call TIMI SO in mandinka where women tatoo their gums and lips into dark blue for beautification.
TIMI SO was always a grandeous occasion in the village where Aunties sit by you while it is being performed with drumming and dancing. A lot of chickens are slaughterd on that day and BARING KEWS will be happy. Boys also did it. There is nothing new. The culture was transported to the United States. |
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Sister Omega
United Kingdom
2085 Posts |
Posted - 30 Jun 2006 : 00:17:36
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Too true are Ancestors had no material belongs with them when they crossed the Atlantic all they had was their culture and it's amazing of how much culture remains especially when we become more aware of it. That's why its so good for soul brothers and sisters to meet up.
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kondorong
Gambia
4380 Posts |
Posted - 30 Jun 2006 : 00:21:54
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| There is a lot still in the Diaspora although with some variations. Music has not changed. JAZZ IS WOLOF DANCE CALLED JAHAZZ BAHAZZ. It is an ochestra where all types of instruments are played to form a ryhytm. It is SeneGambian in origin. |
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kondorong
Gambia
4380 Posts |
Posted - 30 Jun 2006 : 00:29:20
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Originally posted by njucks
in the final anaylsis there is no formula and if we try to see a pattern then exceptions appear
NO. THE PATTERN IS THERE. WHAT IS NOT THERE IS OUR UNDERSTANDING OF OUR HISTORY WHICH IS UNFORTUNATE. CHILDREN NO LONGER SIT WITH GRANNIES BY THE FIRE BECAUSE THEY THINK THEY ARE TOO CIVILISED. THE FIRE ENHANCED HISTORY AND AS THE FLAMES DIED OUT SO DID OUR HISTORY.
That is why when Dalton1 talked about it, i nearly cried. |
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Sister Omega
United Kingdom
2085 Posts |
Posted - 30 Jun 2006 : 00:31:18
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I've Got The Blues
As I cleanse in water
This Spirit I feel
The blues seeps over me
I remember it still
How they treated my forebears
And how history’s still perpetuating itself!
I crossed the Atlantic Ocean fettered in chains
Without my clothes
No family to tell
They changed my name
And made me work until I died
I laid down my burden by the riverside.
But the spirit within me
Never died
It passed on to my children on the other side.
In oppression I would sing my songs
My Master I was so dumb
And he thought I was having fun
But I realized Jah dwells inside of me.
So I got baptized one Sunday morning
cause Massa did tell me
It was the only way
To get a holiday
But I remembered long ago
Back home in Africa
What Griots did say.
When you’re in water you can hear
The spirit clearer
Reassuring God is even nearer.
It will break the chains
And free your mind
As Christ showed us
Jah dwells on the inside.
Because as Christ is the Son of God
So am I the daughter of God
No matter what they do to my flesh
My spirit will eternally be refreshed.
I got the blues
I got the blues
You know why my darling
It’s part of good news.
You see African people have been deliberately misled
Brainwashed in to thinking when you’re dead
Cause Jah’s inside of us
Giving us his news
If we listen to the music within our heart
If you haven’t done so already
Now it is time for you to start.
After all this time of being used
We have a culture
That creative part of us
Which links us together
No matter what the season
Or stormy weather
It’s the blues tying us forever.
In Mali they play instruments
Sounding like Mississippi blues
Sounding like Plimento
Sounding like reggae from Jamaica
Didn’t you know?
That Africa speaks to us
We still stick to its time
That’s why Africans are late
And we still appreciate and create
Its rhythms and rhymes
That’s what binds Africans together
Through music and history
Tell our collective story of brutality and separation.
I got the blues
I got the blues
And I know my darling
I’ve come up with good news.
We’ve crossed the Atlantic
And returned to the other side
To find out
Africa’s always been on the inside
Our Ancestors honour will never diminish
Because Africans families
Remember them both sides of the Atlantic.
Their spirits are apart of us
We refuse to remain slaves
In the America’s, Europe
Or in Africa
Waiting for a God above
To shower us with his love
We know it’s a lie
Cause Jah don’t live up in the sky
For eternal life means that the spirit never dies
He lives in each one of us
Our ancestors don’t die.
I got the blues
Through the blues
We’re hearing God’s news.
They can glorify crucifixion of Christ
And brainwash people as much as they like.
But those who feel
Surely know
The Spirit lives on
The Spirit lives on.
Unlike like commodities
That fade away
The eternal spirit is here to stay.
So no more trickery, deception and lies
We now know our creator dwells inside
All of us
All of us
It’s not in man for us to put our trust.
We’ve broken your spell
Now go to hell
We can here the truth
And here for us to tell
We got the blues.
By Sophia Sewell-Ba ©Copyright 2004
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Janyanfara
Tanzania
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Posted - 30 Jun 2006 : 00:38:37
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Posted - 29 Jun 2006 : 04:11:50
by njuks
Jayanfara
i think like the Kondorong you are sleeping as well.
njie is originally wollof???
Jahumpha is Hausa???
Taal is Narr???
Jatta=Njie???
how you came to these conclusions i don't know but you couldn't be more wrong. don't confuse your self.
njuks,
Maybe you need to read your traditional history better and find out from elder where certain surnames came from.
NJIE?
please try and find out more about the Serer states of Walo,Kajor,Sine,Saloum and Boal.Then after,find out where do Njan Njan Njie oreginall come from.
Jahumpha?
Have you ever been to Kano,Zaria,Zanfara,Mina ect?(These are very prominent towns in Nigeria) if you've not or you've never try to trace anceatral trees of African tribes,then I would not argue with you.
Taal?
You may argue that taal is fulani?My brother you don't know or have no clue about how Taal came to the Fulani tribe.
Sometimes it is nice to ask gently I assume,if you want to know ask!Say Mr.Speaker,Can you please tell me?
Taal,Faal,Daada are the founders AGADES in present Mouritania.I will tell you if you want to know more about Taal comming into fulani.Right now thats not the issue.
Also how the Sarahule links to Fula which links to Arabs...... If you want to know ask my brother ASK!.
Regarding Jatta=njie,
Ask even some of the traditional praise singers and you will know that link.
You have the whiteman Education,know so little about your own history except what they tell you,you come to challenge some one who tries to give you your history that is pure and barely known to the white man.And you think I am sleeping?No am wide awake!
My brother I tell you, history should have been my field for I have already been entangled with it for there is a lot the whiteman didn't write about us.
You are the one sleeping and you need to wake up.
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kondorong
Gambia
4380 Posts |
Posted - 30 Jun 2006 : 00:43:45
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This is powerful stuff. My head is spining. Sometimes i laugh but sometimes i cry. It elevates me to the spirit form only to realise that i am still around. I saw an African American who looked just like a twin brother of my Granny. I used to pass him at a convenience store and when ever i am home sick from Yoro Bawol i pass by to remind me of home.
I was shy and afraid to introduce myself not knowing how he will react.It is the dialema of the Africans and those in the diaspora. There is a bridge and unspoken discomfort which we must overcome. We hardly mingle and hardly any friends across. Yet when we pass each other we blink our eyes or nod our head in salutation. Yet we never interact. |
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Sister Omega
United Kingdom
2085 Posts |
Posted - 30 Jun 2006 : 00:47:09
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Kondoromg, Times are a changing with more children being born from parents from Continental Africa and The African Diaspora dialogue is happening my brother slowly but surely.
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kondorong
Gambia
4380 Posts |
Posted - 30 Jun 2006 : 00:52:21
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| Amen. You made my day. How do we break the silence among us. I intend to set up a society that will breach this gap. I am still thinking but dont know where to start |
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Newfy
Western Samoa
462 Posts |
Posted - 30 Jun 2006 : 01:00:57
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Sister Omega, I could hear your voice as I read your poetry today. I hope you will sing this one or maybe if you ever get the time to go to a poetry slam. We don't have those here, but hear its popular on the Mainland and other European metro areas. You would win a first prize for sure!
I also hear you Kons when you say you see your family on the street. But the rules of the metro areas is not always friendly |
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Sitasungo
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Posted - 30 Jun 2006 : 01:20:09
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Oh Good GOD,
our sister has done it again!I did not see that masterful piece earlier-on.
You are really a rising star .I am proud we have you sis.Oh what a day for me.
Can someone tell me are you the omega we expect?
Even if you're not,all her qualities you've go.You made my night.thank you.
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kondorong
Gambia
4380 Posts |
Posted - 30 Jun 2006 : 01:31:43
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Originally posted by Newfy
Sister Omega, I could hear your voice as I read your poetry today. I hope you will sing this one or maybe if you ever get the time to go to a poetry slam. We don't have those here, but hear its popular on the Mainland and other European metro areas. You would win a first prize for sure!
I also hear you Kons when you say you see your family on the street. But the rules of the metro areas is not always friendly
It is a sad fact. Crossing that bridge is a hell lot problem. may be, may be, we will one day cross it together and be able to talk to each other once again. |
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Newfy
Western Samoa
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Posted - 30 Jun 2006 : 03:30:34
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Kons,
I understand what you mean about crossing the bridge.
But the thing we all have is our SELF. SELF is universal, connected with the entire universe.
Many are busy with their lifes, stressed out and may just not see..
this article was in CNN the other day about US.
They probably studied mainly toubabs?
Americans have a third fewer close friends and confidants than just two decades ago — a sign that people may be living lonelier, more isolated lives than in the past.
In 1985, the average American had three people in whom to confide matters that were important to them, says a study in today's American Sociological Review. In 2004, that number dropped to two, and one in four had no close confidants at all.
"You usually don't see that kind of big social change in a couple of decades," says study co-author Lynn Smith-Lovin, professor of sociology at Duke University in Durham, N.C.
Close relationships are a safety net, she says. "Whether it's picking up a child or finding someone to help you out of the city in a hurricane, these are people we depend on."
Also, research has linked social isolation and loneliness to mental and physical illness.
The study finds fewer contacts are from clubs and neighbors; people are relying more on family, a phenomenon documented in the 2000 book Bowling Alone by Robert Putnam, a Harvard public policy professor.
The percentage of people who confide only in family increased from 57% to 80%, and the number who depend totally on a spouse is up from 5% to 9%, the study found. "If something happens to that spouse or partner, you may have lost your safety net," Smith-Lovin says.
The study is based on surveys of 1,531 people in 1985 and 1,467 in 2004, part of the General Social Survey by the National Opinion Research Center at the University of Chicago.
Not everyone sees such a dire picture. People still have other friends, sociologist Barry Wellman of the University of Toronto says. "We have a lot of ties that aren't super strong but are still pretty important."
Why people have fewer close friends is unclear, Putnam says. "This is a mystery like Murder on the Orient Express, in which there are multiple culprits."
The chief suspects: More people live in the suburbs and spend more time at work, Putnam says, leaving less time to socialize or join groups.
Also, people have more entertainment tools such as TV, iPods and computers, so they can stay home and tune out. But some new trends, such as online social networking, may help counter the effect, he says.
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