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kondorong
Gambia
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 Posted - 29 Jun 2006 : 21:03:34
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One thing i would like to add is that the Wolof are a small group found ONLY in the Senegambia but they are well known for their hospitality and TERANGA. They may have moved to few places like Mauritania when Senegal and Mauritania formed a union but they will quickly trace their origins to Senegambia. They are very outgoing and enjoy life to the fullest. TAKKO SAN NDARR (YOUUSOU NDOUR). Even him is not Wollof but Serer. Overtime Youssou Ndour will be called a Wollof.
INFACT THERE IS A MANDINKA SAYING: SURUWA FANKAMAYA a term used for lavish spending. The wollofs like to dress well and enjoy life and if you happen to be like that in a Mandingo community, you are also called SURUWA FANKAMAYA.
As a result of this hospitality, they have been able to win many to their side. In fact many powerful chiefs in the Gambia married into Wolof families even though they were of other tribes. This ability to welcome has led to the Wolof saying: SANTA AMUT KERR BAYE which when translated directly means last names do not belong to any group. It does however. But what they really mean is that no matter what you are, you are welcome.
You will find this BINARY COMBINATIONS OF LAST NAMES ONLY WITH WOLLOF AND OTHER TRIBES AND NOT THE REVERSE. I HAVE NOT HEARD OF JALLOW/TOURAY, NDOUR/CAMARA, BAH/MANNEH, SANYANG/BALDEH. The link will majority of times be between Wolof last names and some other tribe.
Mandinkas have throughtout written history been described as rebellious and hard to contain. They dont assimilate and are not very diplomatic. Recorded French and British history have converged on this. THEN AGAIN I AM JUST A MESSENGER. WHY SHOOT ME
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Sister Omega
United Kingdom
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Posted - 29 Jun 2006 : 21:10:18
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| So where does Kente come in? The reason why ask is Kunta Kente which has become synomous with Gambia's Tourist Product. |
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Edited by - Sister Omega on 29 Jun 2006 21:11:51 |
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kondorong
Gambia
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Posted - 29 Jun 2006 : 21:17:50
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| Kinteh is Mandinka. Infact the story is Kinteh's family originally lived in Kiang before they migrated to Juffereh. His family were very religious and i believe the ones that still stayed in Kiang still practice this function. They are the same family with the Kinteh's in Jarra , Kiang and Juffreh. When the family became large, it was common fr others to settle elsewhere and that is how they are found in Jarra nd Juffre. It is the same family |
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kondorong
Gambia
4380 Posts |
Posted - 29 Jun 2006 : 22:08:50
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| True roots homecoming festival should be celebrated in Kiang where Kunta Kinteh's Family originated if we are to go by what Njuks has said that it is not where you live but where you came from. |
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gambiabev
United Kingdom
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Posted - 29 Jun 2006 : 22:16:20
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In Leicester when I was a teenager there were lots of West Indians, they tended to like their bling and were brilliant dancers. The Wollofs in Gambia remind me of that so much!!!! Of course they are brothers and it shows!
I used to love dancing with West Indians as a teenager and now I love dancing with those sengalese men! LOL! But I just cant get that rhythm! Reggae is so much easier! |
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gambiabev
United Kingdom
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Posted - 29 Jun 2006 : 22:20:04
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Where abouts in Kiang?
I read roots many many years ago..before I ever dreamt of coming to Gambia.
It made me weep out of compassion for the human suffering. But I found the story fascinating too and never wanted the book to end. i know there has been disputes about what is true and what is fiction, but it is still a very powerful story.It needs to be heard. |
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kondorong
Gambia
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Posted - 29 Jun 2006 : 22:25:04
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| Yes West Africans like Bling Bling especially the women. In Mandinka it is called FORIO. Big ear rings. They disappeared with the advent of western education when mothers sold them for school fees. |
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Newfy
Western Samoa
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Posted - 29 Jun 2006 : 22:28:11
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| I thought gold bracelets, earrings are in a way a sign of status and also a form of insurance, like goats and cattle, if things go awry. makes sense to me. |
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Newfy
Western Samoa
462 Posts |
Posted - 29 Jun 2006 : 22:29:52
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| only someone like a mom would sell her prized bracelets to help her children :) |
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kondorong
Gambia
4380 Posts |
Posted - 29 Jun 2006 : 23:00:05
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Originally posted by Newfy
I thought gold bracelets, earrings are in a way a sign of status and also a form of insurance, like goats and cattle, if things go awry. makes sense to me.
Yes they were forms of insurance and with education came the claims and had to be sold. |
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Sister Omega
United Kingdom
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Posted - 29 Jun 2006 : 23:17:15
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It was the Europeans who liked the bling bling sooooo much they had to come to Africa and take Africans to the West Indies who took to the bling bling to dance in Leciester Clubs.
Reggae is similar to Yela and other types of African music. |
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Edited by - Sister Omega on 29 Jun 2006 23:18:28 |
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kondorong
Gambia
4380 Posts |
Posted - 29 Jun 2006 : 23:19:55
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| Yela of Baba Maal? |
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Sister Omega
United Kingdom
2085 Posts |
Posted - 29 Jun 2006 : 23:20:33
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njucks
Gambia
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Posted - 29 Jun 2006 : 23:21:12
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kondorong i see you know you fulakan very well. anyway the wollof did not migrate to Mauritania they have been there since like the serer, these modern border are new and recent. rather they have been force to move south like the tukuleur. at the border in Futa Tooro you will find thousand of refugees waiting to go back home to Mauritania.
is Forio the same as Karaneh, the big golden earing with the characterics red thread?
also i thought to be Nyancho both parents have to be nyancho and if only the father is then its Koring (sonko/sanyang). atleast thats what i remember reading?
also i think the Kinteh in Jufure might have come from badibu not Kiang as you said?
also i think binary surnames can be found even with fula/mandinka
SaidyBah, SiadyKhan,JarjuSey etc
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kondorong
Gambia
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Posted - 29 Jun 2006 : 23:52:51
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Originally posted by njucks
kondorong i see you know you fulakan very well. anyway the wollof did not migrate to Mauritania they have been there since like the serer, these modern border are new and recent. rather they have been force to move south like the tukuleur. at the border in Futa Tooro you will find thousand of refugees waiting to go back home to Mauritania.
is Forio the same as Karaneh, the big golden earing with the characterics red thread?
also i thought to be Nyancho both parents have to be nyancho and if only the father is then its Koring (sonko/sanyang). atleast thats what i remember reading?
also i think the Kinteh in Jufure might have come from badibu not Kiang as you said?
also i think binary surnames can be found even with fula/mandinka
SaidyBah, SiadyKhan,JarjuSey etc
i'm i right?
Read The Tribes of Senegambia by Godwin Sonko for the story of the Nyanchos and Korings. Maternal lineage is Nyanco and Paternal is Koring.
No the Kinteh's in Kiang came from manding not Baddibu but the Kinteh's from baddibu are from Kiang.You are right. The Kinteh's in Juffereh are from Baddibu. The migration ended in Juffureh but its the same family. The first settlement of the Kinteh's is Kiang and if my memeory serves me right it is Koilior on the transGambia high way with a huge SOTO tree. Yoro Bawol is far from Kiang. May be Kiangkas will help in this.
Saidy is Fulani not Mandinka hence Saidy bah, Saidy Khan which are all Fulani last names. I am amazed with the combination of Jarjusey. Jarju is Jola whilst Sey is Fulani. However mandinka's spell it as Jarjussey. Jarju Mandinkas are found mostly in Kiang which borders with Cassamance and Foni. I am not suprised they are found only that region except one or two villages in Baddibu. Beyond LRD and NBD, there are no Jarjus
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