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dbaldeh
USA
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 Posted - 21 Jun 2006 : 22:15:33
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Hey I know where Sankofa is and I will confront him for a comeback. I suppose he has another misterous name. Reveal yourself Sankofa.
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Baldeh,
"Be the change you want to see in the world" Ghandi
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njucks
Gambia
1131 Posts |
Posted - 27 Jun 2006 : 21:01:21
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i think Jede's question is just for information only and there is nothing wrong with this. Somita has done a good job but he/she has made some errors. which brings us, GambiaBev to the old Wolof saying '' Santa amut kerr''. if you translate it directly it means ''Surnames dont belong to any house'' but the true meaning is surnames can be misleading.
there is nothing wrong with tribes. we shouldn't try to pretend that it doesn't exist as it comes with language, culture, food, dress, history etc. all of theses are different sometimes
the vice president is not Mandinka, she is of fula orign and Bala gaye is Wollof not Serere. I.Sambou is also not Mandinka.i'm not sure about SOS Jahumpa as this is also found in all the way to Mauritania. its impossible to tell from surnames really.
that same Njie can be Mandinka, Wollof,Serere,Sarakule, Bambara,
this is the corrected compilation.
Isatou Njie-Saidy - Fula
Edward Singhatey - Mandinka
Bai Mass M. Taal - Wolof
Sheikh Tijan Hydara - Mandinka
Lamin Kaba Bajo - Mandinka
Musa G. Bala Gaye -Wolof
Tamsir Mbowe - Wolof
Yankouba Touray - Mandinka
Ismaila K. Sambou -Jola
Baboucarr Jatta - Jola
Bala Garba-Jahumpa - 'Wolof'
Fatou L. Faye - Sererer/Wolof
Susan Waffa Ogoo - Aku
Alieu Ngum - Wolof
Sheikh Omar Faye - Sererer/Wolof
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but my advise is to sit down and meet the person. its better |
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gambiabev
United Kingdom
3091 Posts |
Posted - 27 Jun 2006 : 22:49:40
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| One night I was sat round a table at Palm Beach hotel...there were at least 6 different 'tribes', all getting on well, teasing and joking. I love that and it is Gambias big strength. |
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kondorong
Gambia
4380 Posts |
Posted - 27 Jun 2006 : 23:03:51
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| Thanks gambiabev. It is unfortunate we are becoming too individualistice these days |
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njucks
Gambia
1131 Posts |
Posted - 27 Jun 2006 : 23:05:25
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Originally posted by gambiabev
One night I was sat round a table at Palm Beach hotel...there were at least 6 different 'tribes', all getting on well, teasing and joking. I love that and it is Gambias big strength.
exactly that scene is repeated all over The Gambia. most 'normal' people dont feel uncomfortable with our differences rather we should enjoy this and learn to respect each other!!!
in my own family i have friends/relatives from all corners including toubabs  |
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Jack
Belgium
384 Posts |
Posted - 28 Jun 2006 : 08:41:06
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Tnx Njucks for your research on the ethnicities of the SOS. 
However someone told me E. Singhateh is at least partially from a toubab-tribe
But the question was informative as I said before.
Jerejeff |
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kondorong
Gambia
4380 Posts |
Posted - 28 Jun 2006 : 18:40:24
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| Yes he had an English mother if the rumour is correct. |
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Janyanfara
Tanzania
1350 Posts |
Posted - 29 Jun 2006 : 03:00:50
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Posted - 20 Jun 2006 : 10:20:35
Can anyone tell me to what tribe the different SOS belong. It's just informative. I had a discussion about it with my friends.
Jade,
What ever reason you may have ,I will try and tell you each and evry tribe of these for I think I know all of them but you will remember that some surnames fall within many tribes so I will tell you the language they speach as we call mother tongue and then tell you where to find some of those surnames:
Isatou Njie-Saidy (vice president)--Speaks---Mandinka (as we call mother tongue) but Njie is oreginal wollof
Edward Singhatey--- speaks-- wollof/English as mother was not mandinka ,but Singhateh is oreginal Mandinka
Bai Mass M. Taal speaks wollof as mother tongue but Taal is Naar(Muritanian)
Sheikh Tijan Hydara --speaks-- Mandinka as mother tongue but Hydara is sheriff which belong to more middle East so thus where ever they settle,they addopt that language.
Lamin Kaba Bajo-- Speaks-- Mandinka and Bajo is real Mandinka(Same with Balajo,Bayo Susso Sorah)
Musa G. Bala Gaye-speaks Wollof as mother tongue and Gaye is oreginal serer.
Tamsir Mbowe--speaks wollof as mother tongue and mbowe is found in both wollof and Buolim
Yankouba Touray-- speaks Mandinka as mother tongue and they are oreginal Mandinka tilibonka morees
Ismaila K. Sambou-Speaks Jola and sambu is Jola but can be found in Karooninkas as well
Baboucarr Jatta speaks Mandinka/Jala but Jatta could be found in Mandinka(Jatta/Njie) Jola,
Bala Garba-Jahumpa--speaks wollof but Jahumpha is real Housa
Fatou L. Faye --Tipical serer born and bred,but speaks wollof and Serer sometimes
Susan Waffa Ogoo --speaks wollof but she is Aku
Alieu Ngum--speaks wollof- but Ngum could be found in wollof,Serer,and Mandinka
Sheikh Omar Faye --Another tTipical Serer but spaeks wollof and can try native serer ...
"Naa fiiiooo?", "Tam horee ta?" or "Gare meekeh!"
Waau,I even seem better than him in Serer though mother tongue is: " Taroo Taroo lum,ba ta maa yoo" AND Father tongue is:"nyee peeteh kunandingo hari boyee nyo nte samoo teh"
Hope I have tried to help?
Am sure some of our readers will tell you what they mean as the two are two different tribes which I am both honestly as one is mother tongue and the other is Father tongue.Thats why I consider myself from no tribe but national Gambian TRIBE"
Peace
Janyanfara
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njucks
Gambia
1131 Posts |
Posted - 29 Jun 2006 : 04:11:50
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Jayanfara
i think like the Kondorong you are sleeping as well.
njie is originally wollof???
Jahumpha is Hausa???
Taal is Narr???
Jatta=Njie???
how you came to these conclusions i don't know but you couldn't be more wrong. don't confuse your self. |
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kondorong
Gambia
4380 Posts |
Posted - 29 Jun 2006 : 18:08:21
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Njie is found in Fulas but wollofs seem to claim it. SANTA AMUT KERR BAYE.
Jahumpa i have no idea. It sounds not Senegambian, Taal is fulani and to be specific of the Tuculor sect, Jatta is Jola and Karoninke, but Balantas and only a few mandinkas are Jatta. You are mostlikely going to find mandinka Jattas in basically two towns in the gambia, Busumbala and Kayai. Wolllofs have also tried to make a similarity between Jatta and Njie. |
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njucks
Gambia
1131 Posts |
Posted - 29 Jun 2006 : 18:43:27
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thank you Kondorong. but to correct you Sedia Jatta is from Wulli not Busumbala nor Kayai. My friend's mother is also Jatta and she is from Nianija or Sami.you find Jatta in many places in The Gambia and they are mandinkas even in Yoro Bawol
the former wife of the first president is njie and a Fula(tukuleur).
Jahumpha starts from St Luois(Ndarr) and extends all the way to Mauritania. sometimes people think Mauritania is an Arabic country. this dominance is only recent largely due to the racist regime of Ould Taya. you will find sarakulis, tukuleur, bambara, wollof and serer there all the way to Nouakchott which is basically a wollof town turned capital.
the compliment for Njie is 'Jata' this must not be confused for the mandinka word for lion (Jato). there is nor relation. the Njie jata comes from the heroic epic of Nyagan Njie. rather as i mentioned before it is Jarra that is the same as Njie and NOT JATTA. go to Dakar or border villages like Kayes you will know.
there is no Hausa in the Senegambia. what we have in Banjul are called Aausa without the H. Hausas are from Northern Nigeria/Niger. Aausas are of Sierra Leonean/Yoruba origin and came to the gambia partly with the colonial history. that is why we have secret societies in banjul as custodian of the Hunting/Pakin masquerades. Ahgogo, Egbe etc are Yoruba or Ibo words. if you have read things fall apart you will know what i'm saying.Jahumpha is not Hausa!
Taal is not narr. it is typically Fula (tukuleur). from Futa Tooro which extends into Mauritania. you have Taal, Faal, Saal, Maal etc |
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somita
United Kingdom
163 Posts |
Posted - 29 Jun 2006 : 18:48:01
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| Interest folks, i shall nuge my head, jata njie as Jaliba Kuyaiteh famouse said |
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kondorong
Gambia
4380 Posts |
Posted - 29 Jun 2006 : 18:56:20
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quote:
Originally posted by njucks
thank you Kondorong. but to correct you Sedia Jatta is from Wulli not Busumbala nor Kayai. My friend's mother is also Jatta and she is from Nianija or Sami.you find Jatta in many places in The Gambia and they are mandinkas even in Yoro Bawol
the former wife of the first president is njie and a Fula(tukuleur).
Jahumpha starts from St Luois(Ndarr) and extends all the way to Mauritania. sometimes people think Mauritania is an Arabic country. this dominance is only recent largely due to the racist regime of Ould Taya. you will find sarakulis, tukuleur, bambara, wollof and serer there all the way to Nouakchott which is basically a wollof town turned capital.
the compliment for Njie is 'Jata' this must not be confused for the mandinka word for lion (Jato). there is nor relation. the Njie jata comes from the heroic epic of Nyagan Njie. rather as i mentioned before it is Jarra that is the same as Njie and NOT JATTA. go to Dakar or border villages like Kayes you will know.
there is no Hausa in the Senegambia. what we have in Banjul are called Aausa without the H. Hausas are from Northern Nigeria/Niger. Aausas are of Sierra Leonean/Yoruba origin and came to the gambia partly with the colonial history. that is why we have secret societies in banjul as custodian of the Hunting/Pakin masquerades. Ahgogo, Egbe etc are Yoruba or Ibo words. if you have read things fall apart you will know what i'm saying.Jahumpha is not Hausa!
Taal is not narr. it is typically Fula (tukuleur). from Futa Tooro which extends into Mauritania. you have Taal, Faal, Saal, Maal etc
I hav not limited Jattas to only Busumbala and Kayai. Howver these two settlements are where they are known mostly and where they seem to be in the majority. In the othet towns, they are a minority. Kayai is in Niani and there a few jatta's in Sami who are infact from Kayai in Niani. There are two Jatta homes also in Wassu (Niani). |
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njucks
Gambia
1131 Posts |
Posted - 29 Jun 2006 : 19:19:15
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Kondorong you may be right. i guess in the Kombos its very very difficult to tell mandinka from jola. they are very interchangeable.
i met a driver once whose sisters had different surnames. his was Singhateh but the sisters were Jamba. i found this interesting and i heard its common in the north bank from Badibu going. with Sissoho, Mamburay, Marong etc do you know about this? |
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kondorong
Gambia
4380 Posts |
Posted - 29 Jun 2006 : 19:30:48
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I have always maintained that last names are always different. People have used it for convenienec and assimilation in soscieties where they are a minority. Hence Njie and Jatta, Trawally and Jobe etc. They are not the same and cannot be. My clasmate was Jallow and yet he claims to be wollof. This approach to societal issues is found in Senegambia region beyond which IT DOES NOT EXIST.
The problem is we have ceased to ask questions and everything is a melting pot free for all take. Njie can never be mandinka. You will find this only in areas that border with saloum where wollof is predominant ( Baddibu and Kiang). Beyond these two regions, there is no Mandinka Njie. I am sure you will quickly mention Brikama, but that is just the same thing. MBOURU FOF KO FORINGE. |
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