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Jack
Belgium
384 Posts |
 Posted - 20 Jun 2006 : 10:20:35
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Can anyone tell me to what tribe the different SOS belong. It's just informative. I had a discussion about it with my friends.
Isatou Njie-Saidy (vice president)
Edward Singhatey
Bai Mass M. Taal
Sheikh Tijan Hydara
Lamin Kaba Bajo
Musa G. Bala Gaye
Tamsir Mbowe
Yankouba Touray
Ismaila K. Sambou
Baboucarr Jatta
Bala Garba-Jahumpa
Fatou L. Faye
Susan Waffa Ogoo
Alieu Ngum
Sheikh Omar Faye
tnx
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Rainbow
Gambia
114 Posts |
Posted - 20 Jun 2006 : 11:57:48
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| Do you believe in tribes? |
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Jack
Belgium
384 Posts |
Posted - 20 Jun 2006 : 13:44:08
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Rainbow, this was just an informative question. So there is no reason to yell . The discussion about tribalism in the Gambia is discussed in an other topic 'Tribalism and nepotism in the Gambia).
Greetz |
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gambiabev
United Kingdom
3091 Posts |
Posted - 20 Jun 2006 : 13:44:13
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OH PLEASE dont start that again!!!!  
Many people in the Gambia tell me that you can tell persons tribal roots from their surname......If that IS the case I would GUESS mbowe is Wollof, Touray is Mandinka....etc......
It is like in Uk Mc donald is scottish origin, Jones is Welsh origin and Smith is English.......
My maiden name is TOON. It is from the East Midlands.....originating from Leicester where most of my relatives still live...... I am PROUD to be a TOON and of ENGLISH origin. Likewise woudlnt a Gambian be proud to be a Dibba and be Mandinka????????? Because I am proud of my origins doesnt mean I am anti anyone else...... SO in Gambia if you are proud of your Jola heritage it doesnt mean you are anti Fula.......
I would like to know which group of people these individuals come from...... who they share common ground with and what their historical background is...... In Uk I would like to know if a politican is from a rich family or from a working class family are they catholic etc etc etc Their background affects their thinking on lots of government issues.......
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Rainbow
Gambia
114 Posts |
Posted - 20 Jun 2006 : 16:18:59
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| Jede - I am JAMMEH, Where will you categorize me? |
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gambiabev
United Kingdom
3091 Posts |
Posted - 20 Jun 2006 : 17:13:28
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Still noone is answering Jedes original question. I would like to know too......
Jammeh is Jola isnt he or is this a trick question Rainbow? |
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dbaldeh
USA
934 Posts |
Posted - 20 Jun 2006 : 17:30:23
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My humble question to Jede is, why is tribe so important to our people? What is the first thing that runs through your mind when you hear the word tribe? There is no doubt tribe is a dividing issue and anytime one mentions it there is something less unifying and more divisive.
If you live in the West, how often do you hear the word tribe? It is up to you to guess, it is mostly used in conflict and underdevelop regions. Tribe is only important in terms of historical perspectives e.g the senegambia region, migration in Africa, Suni and Cytes in Irag etc. In other words conflict zones. Other than that when ever one uses it one have something in mind.
So please, why not ask the professional competence and service dedication of those ministers? Why not ask about their qualification to represent the interest of the people? What is so significant about their tribe of origin?
Come one fellows, people should be judge by the content of their character not their tribe of origin. We should learn from the West no matter how degrading it is and try to amalgamate our society. Then and Only then can we breed a tribe blind society and create a future generation of equality and acceptance.
Jede, though your question may clearly be innocent of bias, it has raise eye brows in the context it was ask. This is not an attack on you, but as seen in a readers perspective.
Peace |
Baldeh,
"Be the change you want to see in the world" Ghandi
Visit http://www.gainako.com for your daily news and politics |
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Jack
Belgium
384 Posts |
Posted - 20 Jun 2006 : 17:32:37
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| Well Rainbow if you are THE Jammeh then I think I'll categorize you under the tribe 'dictators'. It's a small tribe, mainly in Africa these days, but very powerfull. However the tribe has members all over the world. Only in Europe they are extinct now. Nevertheless within some democratic organisations in Western Europe you can find leaders with the same features.( Blair, Berlusconi) Probably there is still some genetic material of one of the great dictators we had in the past centuries. LOL |
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jambo
3300 Posts |
Posted - 20 Jun 2006 : 17:43:29
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| jede dont you just the bantaba |
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somita
United Kingdom
163 Posts |
Posted - 20 Jun 2006 : 19:33:33
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I think the question is more difficult than it looks but surely somebody knows them all guys. I tried and failed because am not too sure where Sambou, singhateh and faye will go but surely someone must know.
Folks the classification below is base on general knowledge, to precise guess work. If you disagree with any of my classification please feel free to make you own assumption
Isatou Njie-Saidy - Mandinka
Edward Singhatey - Mandinka
Bai Mass M. Taal - Wolof
Sheikh Tijan Hydara - Mandinka
Lamin Kaba Bajo - Mandinka
Musa G. Bala Gaye -Sererer/Wolof
Tamsir Mbowe - Wolof
Yankouba Touray - Mandinka
Ismaila K. Sambou -Mandinka/jola
Baboucarr Jatta - Jola
Bala Garba-Jahumpa - Wolof
Fatou L. Faye - Sererer/Wolof
Susan Waffa Ogoo - Aku
Alieu Ngum - Wolof
Sheikh Omar Faye - Sererer/Wolof
Frankly I dont know but most importantly I dont have to know it because its irrelevant and insignificant. Its has no biological bearing or behavioural pattern of any significants. |
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Jack
Belgium
384 Posts |
Posted - 20 Jun 2006 : 21:36:56
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Somita, thank you very much. I appreciate your answer. And as I said in this thread the question was just informative. I didn't say or mention it is significant of relevant.
And to Dbaldeh, I don't think I judged anyone and certainly I don't judge on base of someones origin or ethnicity (I won't use the word tribe anymore  ). In french (Senegal) the word is 'ethnies'.
And my question wasn't at all to judge those people. If I want to know their competences I go to the website of the Statehouse, under the link Cabinet, and there I find the cv's of all the SOS. That I don't have to ask on the Bantaba.
If you really want to know why I asked this question that's the answer. In several newspapers and websites (english and dutch) it is said that the President is favourising the Jolas. Now I know that at least this is not the case in the cabinet. Maybe in the army, maybe in the administration, maybe in NIA... I don't now (yet). And maybe that could be one of my next questions LOL. That's not judging the person, thats making up my own mind on topics of Gambian society. That's all.
And to DBaldeh : amalgate a society has lots of benefits but can also resulting in losing cultural heritage.
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dbaldeh
USA
934 Posts |
Posted - 21 Jun 2006 : 17:44:04
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Thanks Jede, it makes sense that your question was asked base on recent discussions about favorism. Thanks for clarifying and that was exactly what I thought.
That perception of the President is really irrelevant because it is almost impossible for anyone to monitor this guys appointment criteria. His appointments are so inconsistence and so out of common sense that any drawn conclusion in one way or the other can be flatly misguiding.
One thing for sure we all know, the man is a lunatic and has no sense of left and right. He is a total anarchy and makes decisions in seconds without even thinking about his actions. So sad that he controls a nation...
As you righly said, amalgamation can definitely lead to lost of cultural heritage. However, it is my humble believe that any culture that is detrimental to a society should be lost without regrets. Society evolves and so are cultures. So as society evolves from generation to generation, certain unhealthy cultures should be for the history books. This one certainly should be for good.
Am glad you and I agree to do away with that terrible word "tribe". I hope that all our people will accept its insignificants for a better and prosperous future. Keep up the dialogue.
Peace |
Baldeh,
"Be the change you want to see in the world" Ghandi
Visit http://www.gainako.com for your daily news and politics |
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Jack
Belgium
384 Posts |
Posted - 21 Jun 2006 : 20:14:24
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Baldeh,
The president a lunatic you said :
President Jammeh on Tuesday joined crowds dancing in front of three electric generators being transported from the Banjul Port to the Kotu Power Station. Hundreds of teenagers accompanied by drummers and singers, followed caravan of the trucks carrying the three 6.5 MVA generators through the streets of Banjul and Serekunda. It has not yet been disclosed where the generators are from and under what terms and conditions they were acquired. The President danced and cheered along with the crowds disrupting the traffic along the Banjul to Serekunda highway (The Gambian Journal)
He has been drinking too much of the Kanilai medecine I suppose .
Ci Jamaa |
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LEMON TIME
Afghanistan
1295 Posts |
Posted - 21 Jun 2006 : 20:22:17
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| He must have overdoes himself with stuff of his,mine you he is known to smoke WEED.OH lol |
There is no god but Allah |
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kondorong
Gambia
4380 Posts |
Posted - 21 Jun 2006 : 20:26:05
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| Where is Sankofa? |
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dbaldeh
USA
934 Posts |
Posted - 21 Jun 2006 : 22:11:13
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Jede, the two generators are donated by the French government purposely for the summit. I read about it on the newswire yesterday(Reuters). I guess the dancing confirms the inevitable. That is typical African drama... go with the flow, be happy, show off, and jubilate as if all your problems have been taken care off. Drop dead and be buried premature after the show is over....
So sad, and the lord almighty should come to our rescue. It is embrassing and disgraceful, Oh!! what a human waste. I always cry deep inside my heart for such misfortune.
Lord forgive our sins.... |
Baldeh,
"Be the change you want to see in the world" Ghandi
Visit http://www.gainako.com for your daily news and politics |
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