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shaka
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 Posted - 04 Oct 2010 : 17:49:14
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To me she is a First Lady...lets call a spade a spade. How can we all start calling for justice between two wives when she is relegated to being 2nd Lady?
It is an admission of guilt Mansa. The Sheikh knows that he had wronged his first wife and is attempting some damage limitations here. Being a muslim man does not and should not entitle any man to more than one wife. It is all subject to the vows you have pledged to your first wife before committing her into a life time union call marriage. Marriage to a second wife is and should therefore be subject to the approval and blessing of of the first wife. I do not care what any creed or religious text say. How many muslim men would honestly declare their entitlement to a second wife before marrying the first. You bloody well know that you will be a single man for a long time. It is therefore wrong and evil to entrapped any woman into a life time commitment, knacker her body up over the years as she carry your children for nine months at a time before giving birth and caring for them and yourself in a life time committment only for a man in his desire to fulfil some sexual fantasy bring home a teenage girl young enough to be your child. Respect your wives my muslim brothers and stop using religion as an excuse to abuse women. |
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mansasulu
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Posted - 04 Oct 2010 : 19:27:30
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Shaka, until we know what vows the Sheikh mad to his first wife, we risk jumping into conclusions. Lets put religion aside for a minute and discuss the merits of this situation. It is very well possible that Jammeh made no promises of marrying a second wife to Zainab. If Zainab wants to stay, she will and my guess is as go as anyone's as to whether she leaves or stays. At the same time, the New first lady has a right to be married to who ever she wants. Why can't we all accept the fact that she choose the Sheikh. Until women stop becoming second wives men will continue to marry second wives.
I am gonna give him a pass on this one. When the honeymoon is over we will get back to his rotten policies that have continued to regress Gambia. Until then, my congratutaltions to Mr. President and the New First Lady! |
"...Verily, in the remembrance of Allâh do hearts find rest..." Sura Al-Rad (Chapter 13, Verse 28)
...Gambian by birth, Muslim by the grace of Allah... |
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Sister Omega
United Kingdom
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Posted - 04 Oct 2010 : 20:17:07
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So Jammeh has married his third wife big deal. He divorced his first wife.He married a second wife and married a third wife. What's all the fuss about?
Each wife knows about the other and all consented to marry him. What's up! Are the objectors just jealous or what?
By Gambian norms Alima is above the average age of a first time Gambian bride. In addition is has had the priviledge of education and raised within a wealthy family. How many Gambian third wives can say that? In both Gambian Culture and Muslim religion,Polygamy is an established institution, so what's exactly is the problem here with these consenting Adults?
It's pretty obvious that Jammeh is a Polygamist and that's the reason he has two wives. What else is there really to say.
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toubab1020
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Posted - 04 Oct 2010 : 20:59:12
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Bravo Sister,
I do hope that you are not going into battle here,such clear and simple thinking,could stop all discussion on this topic  |
"Simple is good" & I strongly dislike politics. You cannot defend the indefensible.
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shaka
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Posted - 04 Oct 2010 : 21:35:28
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Mansa i am fairly certain that The Sheikh divorced Tuti Faal before marrying Zainab. There is no way Zainab came into that marriage as a second wife and am sure a woman of Zainab's class and intelligence would not sign a pre-nuptial agreement that licensed The Sheikh to pursue a second wife. For what it is worth please give the woman some credit for having a well functioning brain. Only an insane woman would sign up a pre-nup permitting her husband to marry a second.quote:
Originally posted by mansasulu
Shaka, until we know what vows the Sheikh mad to his first wife, we risk jumping into conclusions. Lets put religion aside for a minute and discuss the merits of this situation. It is very well possible that Jammeh made no promises of marrying a second wife to Zainab. We are all forgetting that Zainab became a second wife while the Sheikh was still married to Titi Faal. Let us not be gripped by amnesia here. Until women stop becoming second wives men will continue to marry second wives.
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shaka
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Posted - 04 Oct 2010 : 21:54:52
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Jammeh married first wife. No big deal.
Jammmeh divorce first wife. No big deal either.
Jammeh married second wife. No big deal.
Jammeh marries a third wife young enough to be his daughter while still married to the second wife who most probably will object to her husband's attempt to bring home an innocent young girl for his sexual gratification. Big Deal!!!
I am pretty sure you would have chucked out your husband so fast his feet ain't touching the ground, if he attempts to bring home a girl young enough to be your daughter as a second wife. Therefore show some respect and simpathy to a fellow sister trapped in such a distressing sitaution. That is the least expected of you as a woman. You cannot claim consent on the part of Zainab as if you were signatory to such an agreement. Talk about what you know for a fact.
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Originally posted by Sister Omega
So Jammeh has married his third wife big deal. He divorced his first wife.He married a second wife and married a third wife. What's all the fuss about?
Each wife knows about the other and all consented to marry him. What's up! Are the objectors just jealous or what?
By Gambian norms Alima is above the average age of a first time Gambian bride. In addition is has had the priviledge of education and raised within a wealthy family. How many Gambian third wives can say that? In both Gambian Culture and Muslim religion,Polygamy is an established institution, so what's exactly is the problem here with these consenting Adults?
It's pretty obvious that Jammeh is a Polygamist and that's the reason he has two wives. What else is there really to say.
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dembis
Sweden
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Posted - 04 Oct 2010 : 22:22:02
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| many people here thinks that am very rude towards the president but they should know that the professor understands this type of language. almost all his supporters like moe do used this language too onto other people on this forum. moe do you remembered when jammeh spoke publicly at a bakau meeting telling all the mandinkas that there would never be a mandinka president again in gambia. no mandinka ass would sit in this thrown again.. i admit that am not making any objective but to attacked the presidents personality. am pretty sure that if it was gambia am writng this moe the nia will shot me day light or took me to the nia office in banjul. god know how many bullets will come inside my forehead. chillout moe am old and u will never know my identity. am more safe than pa nderry and sweden is the best place to hide. you and your sheickh are big time jokers. just to tell you i will never accept what my grandma told me that god give jammeh the presidentcy so we just have to hope and pray till day the president die. alima is a enocent girl but her parents are ****up. greedy mummys always brings problems to the family. |
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dbaldeh
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Posted - 05 Oct 2010 : 00:06:42
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At least the Sallah Family waited till the age of 20, How old were your uneducated sisters when they got married Demba?. How old was your mother by the way when she married your father and don't feel insulted , these are legitimate questions and hopefully you don't lie. How old do you have to be in the Fulani tribe to be fit for marriage up country where you come from? The other thing Fulani's marry their nieces and first cousins which is worse than a 20 year old at legal age getting married to someone who they have no relations to. Is your wife your cousin Demba?............................................Peace
Moe you are a crack head!!! Is Jammeh your Father? Why do you think people continue to discuss this man here? Isn't he a public figure and by default is Alima not a public figure now that Gambians will be footing her bills?
Moe, you have no respect for yourself and family.... You have attempted several times to bring families into these discussions...
Because of your stupidity and lack of moral upbringing you cannot keep families out of this...
There is no way in a million years you can drag my family into this pettiness. They are my source of pride and you better keep your dirty mouth from them... This is a last warning for you. |
Baldeh,
"Be the change you want to see in the world" Ghandi
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LEMON TIME
Afghanistan
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Posted - 05 Oct 2010 : 02:58:54
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| You have been warned Moe. |
There is no god but Allah |
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kobo
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mansasulu
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Posted - 05 Oct 2010 : 14:40:42
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Originally posted by shaka
Mansa i am fairly certain that The Sheikh divorced Tuti Faal before marrying Zainab. There is no way Zainab came into that marriage as a second wife and am sure a woman of Zainab's class and intelligence would not sign a pre-nuptial agreement that licensed The Sheikh to pursue a second wife. For what it is worth please give the woman some credit for having a well functioning brain. Only an insane woman would sign up a pre-nup permitting her husband to marry a second.quote:
Originally posted by mansasulu
Shaka, until we know what vows the Sheikh mad to his first wife, we risk jumping into conclusions. Lets put religion aside for a minute and discuss the merits of this situation. It is very well possible that Jammeh made no promises of marrying a second wife to Zainab. We are all forgetting that Zainab became a second wife while the Sheikh was still married to Titi Faal. Let us not be gripped by amnesia here. Until women stop becoming second wives men will continue to marry second wives.
You are right Shaka and my mistake on the sequence of the marriages. His marriage to Tuti Faal ended before he married Zainab. My fear is that we risk making The new First Lady a victim. She is 21 and thus old enough to be married. If she has shown any signs of being forced into the marriage we should all be outraged. That could still happen if that is indeed the case. Until then, I believe we should give this union a chance.
On a lighter note, she is a knockout!
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"...Verily, in the remembrance of Allâh do hearts find rest..." Sura Al-Rad (Chapter 13, Verse 28)
...Gambian by birth, Muslim by the grace of Allah... |
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toubab1020
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Posted - 05 Oct 2010 : 14:45:33
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"On a lighter note, she is a knockout!"
Good to see that you appriciate the beautiful things on this earth. |
"Simple is good" & I strongly dislike politics. You cannot defend the indefensible.
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terangba
Egypt
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Posted - 05 Oct 2010 : 15:11:33
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| It is very funny to me that we are busy discussing the President’s personal life right around the 2011 election. This should be high political season, a time when the opposition is busy opposing each other instead of opposing APRC. |
God gave men dominion over the beasts and not over his fellow men unless they submit of their own free will. - Napoleon |
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toubab1020
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Posted - 05 Oct 2010 : 15:31:48
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Not funny at all. politics is so boring ALL the time   |
"Simple is good" & I strongly dislike politics. You cannot defend the indefensible.
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Sister Omega
United Kingdom
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Posted - 05 Oct 2010 : 19:26:30
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Yow! Shaka you make laugh!
As for the Jammeh's none of us knows what happens behind close doors so who are we to judge?
I wish them all the best for the future. Come on Guys unless you see Gambia becoming a monogamus society anytime soon then Jammeh marrying another wife is quite normal in Gambia. Shaka Alima isn't young enough to be Zaineba's daughter is she? Even if she were then there are plenty of Gambians who can empathsize with Zaineba's position of being a co-wife after all there are thousands of co-wives in Gambia.
Why should these women be pittied they are both muslim Presidential wives in privileged positions from privileged backgrounds? Who unless they confirm otherwise were able to choose whether they wanted to marry the President.
The women I feel who are more worthy of my sympathy are those co-wives who are displaced, lost their homes, have plenty of mouths to feed due to falling victims of the recent floods.Where is your sympathy for them Shaka?
Let's get some perspective on this for all you know both Mrs Jammehs are madly in love with their husband and may even become best friends. It takes a very emotionally strong and patient man to successfully have two wives, I think for most men one woman is quite enough to handle!! Let's face it a lot of men can't even handle that.. Then there are those one woman husbands who know how to take care of their wives just fine !!
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Edited by - Sister Omega on 05 Oct 2010 20:02:04 |
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