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MeMe



United Kingdom
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Posted - 24 Aug 2010 :  16:26:33  Show Profile Send MeMe a Private Message
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Originally posted by turk

Parliament for internal affairs without much power. Bank notes but central bank still have power in money policy, law is restricted in small areas.

I appreciate my good Scottish friends I have how they are revolutionists, brave hearted and sensitive for example in Palestine issue. When I was working in UK, I always had click with Scottish, Irish and leftist British. Well there are always exceptions. There are bad apples and good apples. lol.



I should now start charging you for these tutorials, Turk but I'm going to treat this as my good deed for the day (ok week!) ...

You said "law is restricted in small areas"???? Buzz, wrong answer! Scots law covers the whole of Scotland (78,772 km2)!

Scots law is a unique legal system which has roots in various different sources of law. There are substantial differences between Scots Law, English law and Northern Ireland law in areas such as property law, criminal law, trusts law[5], inheritance law, evidence law and family law while there are greater similarities in areas of national interest such as commercial law and taxation law. Some of the more important practical differences between the jurisdictions include the age of legal capacity (16 years old in Scotland, 18 years old in England),the use of a 15 member jury in Scotland rather than the usual 12 members,the fact that the accused in a criminal trial does not have the right to elect a judge or jury trial,judges and juries of criminal trials have the "third verdict" of "not proven" available to them, and the fact that Equity does not exist in Scots law.

Many areas of Scots law are legislated for by the Scottish Parliament. Areas of Scots law over which the Scottish Parliament has competency include health, education, criminal justice, local government, environment and civil justice amongst others.

The Scottish Government has executive responsibility for the Scottish legal system, with functions exercised by the Cabinet Secretary for Justice. The Cabinet Secretary for Justice has political responsibility for policing, law enforcement, the courts of Scotland, the Scottish Prison Service, fire services, civil emergencies and civil justice.


It is better to die standing than to live on your knees - Ernesto Guevara de la Serna
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turk



USA
3356 Posts

Posted - 24 Aug 2010 :  16:53:27  Show Profile  Visit turk's Homepage Send turk a Private Message
Wow. mi blusshhhhh. First a special topic dedicated to me, now you are showing your generosity. Too much love I can't handle. For the social science and law, I have both technical/mathematic background (information systems) and some social study, however, I have great interests in history, politics and law as hobby, so it won't be big challenge for you to teach me. Just make sure you don't became student and learn from me along your tutorial experience.

When I refer areas I meant judicial/law areas for example criminal law, administrative law, constitutional law, international law etc. Not geographical areas. Thanks god you already covered that so I did not have to have the difficult task to teach you about law. Like you said, MANY AREAS are legislated by Scottish Parliament and it is great Scots have some legislative, executive and judicial power and I already knew that, however it fall short of complete sovereignty. That was ma point.

diaspora! Too many Chiefs and Very Few Indians.

Halifa Salah: PDOIS is however realistic. It is fully aware that the Gambian voters are yet to reach a level of political consciousness that they rely on to vote on the basis of Principles, policies and programmes and practices.
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turk



USA
3356 Posts

Posted - 24 Aug 2010 :  17:08:38  Show Profile  Visit turk's Homepage Send turk a Private Message
Kobo

While on theory, Gambia is fully independent country, there are still too many obstacles for Gambians to feel the full sovereignty. But this process is not only about political, law and government system. It also have economic, social, cultural dynamics as well that compliment. Actually, I am saying without economics you can't change much in government system. It does not matter how perfect government system and democracy you have, without economic independence and individual independence people will not be sovereign. I think social democracy is good for Gambia and I think Halifa Sallah maybe a good leader. But to change something in Gambia, you don't have to change the government Jammeh. There are still lots of things can be done to accomplished sovereignty with the existing government in power. It is a long journey. Scots have been fighting for since the ancient times, and if you see the 'braveheart' movie, you see sometime you need to have 'any means necessary as Malcolm X said'. It is fortunate that Gambia did not have to have war. However, Gambia needs to see this as a long journey. Gambia needs to pay its due to accomplished what Scots, or Turkey accomplished. It is not easy. It is not as easy as you change the government in 2011 and things will change overnight.

diaspora! Too many Chiefs and Very Few Indians.

Halifa Salah: PDOIS is however realistic. It is fully aware that the Gambian voters are yet to reach a level of political consciousness that they rely on to vote on the basis of Principles, policies and programmes and practices.
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MeMe



United Kingdom
541 Posts

Posted - 24 Aug 2010 :  17:11:48  Show Profile Send MeMe a Private Message
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Originally posted by turk

Wow. mi blusshhhhh. First a special topic dedicated to me, now you are showing your generosity. Too much love I can't handle. For the social science and law, I have both technical/mathematic background (information systems) and some social study, however, I have great interests in history, politics and law as hobby, so it won't be big challenge for you to teach me. Just make sure you don't became student and learn from me along your tutorial experience.

When I refer areas I meant judicial/law areas for example criminal law, administrative law, constitutional law, international law etc. Not geographical areas. Thanks god you already covered that so I did not have to have the difficult task to teach you about law. Like you said, MANY AREAS are legislated by Scottish Parliament and it is great Scots have some legislative, executive and judicial power and I already knew that, however it fall short of complete sovereignty. That was ma point.



Final lesson here, Turk ....

On April 11th 1689, the Scots' Parliament passed into Scots' Constitutional Law on behalf of the people of Scotland, The Claim of Right, (not to be confused with England’s Bill of Rights). The Claim of Right reiterates the established rights of the Scots' Parliament in relation to the Crown, the monarch reigned whereas parliament legislated while sovereignty remained with the people of Scotland as the supreme constitutional authority. Again this is a fundamental written constitutional document which is still in force to this day.

Scottish Constitutional Law has an in situ Legislature ensuring that Scottish Sovereignty remains un-compromised and that only the will of the registered electorate in Scotland can change the status quo.

Peace out

It is better to die standing than to live on your knees - Ernesto Guevara de la Serna

Edited by - MeMe on 24 Aug 2010 17:22:33
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turk



USA
3356 Posts

Posted - 24 Aug 2010 :  20:54:17  Show Profile  Visit turk's Homepage Send turk a Private Message
Lesson learnt. Scotland remains to be under United Kingdom while they have some autonomies. Otherwise, many Scots (What was the guy name in the movie by Umberto Eco) would not bother to push full independence.

diaspora! Too many Chiefs and Very Few Indians.

Halifa Salah: PDOIS is however realistic. It is fully aware that the Gambian voters are yet to reach a level of political consciousness that they rely on to vote on the basis of Principles, policies and programmes and practices.
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MeMe



United Kingdom
541 Posts

Posted - 25 Aug 2010 :  10:40:27  Show Profile Send MeMe a Private Message
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Originally posted by turk

Lesson learnt. Scotland remains to be under United Kingdom while they have some autonomies. Otherwise, many Scots (What was the guy name in the movie by Umberto Eco) would not bother to push full independence.



As you so kindly acknowledged the lesson, here's a freebie .... the United Kingdom comprises of Scotland, England, Wales and Northern Ireland therefore Scotland cannot be "under" United Kingdom! Is it still part of the United Kingdom? Yes!

It is better to die standing than to live on your knees - Ernesto Guevara de la Serna

Edited by - MeMe on 25 Aug 2010 12:18:31
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turk



USA
3356 Posts

Posted - 25 Aug 2010 :  11:25:02  Show Profile  Visit turk's Homepage Send turk a Private Message
OK, correction Scots are PART OF the United Kingdom where England dominates in political power especially in international politics with other independent nations.

Other free teachings about Scotland....

diaspora! Too many Chiefs and Very Few Indians.

Halifa Salah: PDOIS is however realistic. It is fully aware that the Gambian voters are yet to reach a level of political consciousness that they rely on to vote on the basis of Principles, policies and programmes and practices.

Edited by - turk on 25 Aug 2010 11:28:59
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kayjatta



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Posted - 25 Aug 2010 :  11:25:17  Show Profile Send kayjatta a Private Message
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Originally posted by MeMe

quote:
Originally posted by turk

Lesson learnt. Scotland remains to be under United Kingdom while they have some autonomies. Otherwise, many Scots (What was the guy name in the movie by Umberto Eco) would not bother to push full independence.



As you so kindly acknowledged the lesson, here's a freebie .... the United Kingdom comprises of Scotland, England, Wales and Northern Ireland therefore Scotland cannot be "under" United Kingdom! Is it still part of the United Kingdom? Yes!



Smart girl, MeMe! Turk sure doesn't have enough money to pay for all these. Very informative posts!
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