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turk
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 Posted - 02 Aug 2010 : 15:15:59
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diaspora! Too many Chiefs and Very Few Indians.
Halifa Salah: PDOIS is however realistic. It is fully aware that the Gambian voters are yet to reach a level of political consciousness that they rely on to vote on the basis of Principles, policies and programmes and practices. |
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toubab1020
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Posted - 02 Aug 2010 : 16:06:33
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Sorry TURK, The AFRICAN MEN were where ?
"Most of them have been in France for between 3 to 10 years. Some of them have papers, some of them don't. They have submitted demands to be legalized,"
"The arrested protesters were released later the same day and have since accepted short-term hotel accommodation,"
Thats nice, the french are so kind offering people who protest accomodation in a hotel
Couldnt get anywhere with your Gipsy link though !
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"Simple is good" & I strongly dislike politics. You cannot defend the indefensible.
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turk
USA
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Posted - 02 Aug 2010 : 16:33:25
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I fixed the link touby.
They are protesting whatever the status is. Especially when police face women with the babies, law officer must have the tolerance, this is not the first time French government show their intolerant side. Obviously, Sarkozy is known for how he sees immigrants, Africans, and Muslims. Considering his view on Turkish entry to EU, due to popular school of thought by Le Pen and other French right/nationalist wing in France that Turkey is not European/Christian he looks to give something to French nationalists.
I like your sarcasm for hotel accommodation. It was real funny. lol. |
diaspora! Too many Chiefs and Very Few Indians.
Halifa Salah: PDOIS is however realistic. It is fully aware that the Gambian voters are yet to reach a level of political consciousness that they rely on to vote on the basis of Principles, policies and programmes and practices. |
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toubab1020
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Posted - 02 Aug 2010 : 16:42:54
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Vive SARCOZY et Vive le franglais eh Turk ?
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"Simple is good" & I strongly dislike politics. You cannot defend the indefensible.
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turk
USA
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Posted - 02 Aug 2010 : 16:54:05
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Considerant l'armee n'a pas francaise succes militaires dans l'histoire, ce serait la,
quand ils sont contre les femmes, la premiere victoire de l'armee francaise. |
diaspora! Too many Chiefs and Very Few Indians.
Halifa Salah: PDOIS is however realistic. It is fully aware that the Gambian voters are yet to reach a level of political consciousness that they rely on to vote on the basis of Principles, policies and programmes and practices. |
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toubab1020
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Posted - 02 Aug 2010 : 17:45:37
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"Simple is good" & I strongly dislike politics. You cannot defend the indefensible.
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Dembish
Gambia
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Posted - 02 Aug 2010 : 23:00:42
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| Very hearth touching,but what comes to my mind is, Africans will continue to be treated as such in the streets of europe as long as African leaders continue to fail to put together,economically, socially and politically, the abundant resources of this great continent for the simply betterment of Africans. |
There is no egg without a chicken, and no chicken without egg. |
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toubab1020
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Posted - 02 Aug 2010 : 23:25:25
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| OK very fair comment,do these "african Leaders " require more time to " put together,economically, socially and politically, the abundant resources of this great continent for the simply betterment of Africans." ? If the answer is Yes,the next question is How much more time ? 20years 50 years 100 years ? The peoples of Africa have their continent back now,what do these people want most of all ?To travel to Europe America and western countries,why?because there is nothing but poverty and selfishness in Africa, a never ending struggle for survival.Blame the Western Countries for this ? Most not all admittedly Colonial countries in Africa were left with a working adminstration after they gained their independence,did they utilise this groundwork,NO. India, and most other Asian countries took what they had been left by those who colonised them and developed the basics to suit their own needs,and are now strong countries in this modern world. |
"Simple is good" & I strongly dislike politics. You cannot defend the indefensible.
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turk
USA
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Posted - 03 Aug 2010 : 00:38:38
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Dembish
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You see forget about Development,Its useless without freedom.Lepold Senghore (former president of senegal)said, "FREEDOM IN POOVERTY IS BETTER THAN SLAVERY IN RICHNESS).
To have freedom, respect one needs to be developed. To fight for freedom, you need money. To have respect you need social, economic and political development.
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diaspora! Too many Chiefs and Very Few Indians.
Halifa Salah: PDOIS is however realistic. It is fully aware that the Gambian voters are yet to reach a level of political consciousness that they rely on to vote on the basis of Principles, policies and programmes and practices. |
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Sister Omega
United Kingdom
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Posted - 03 Aug 2010 : 00:45:42
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The AU should boycott France Period ! This is utterly disgusting total savagery complete disrespect for Human Rights!
This video should be shown in Africa so that people will see and understand what racism is and what the reality of state brutality is. The French Police have no respect at all for African Life period! They call themselves Police but in reality they are women and child abusers. All of those POlice should be facing charges of brutal. Where does Obama stand on this issue? How come he's quiet?
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turk
USA
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toubab1020
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Posted - 03 Aug 2010 : 01:25:15
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Sister, I have just had a small view of a programme on the UK TV on the ironing of young girls breasts with hot stones twice a day by their mothers to maybes slow growth of the breast as girls with big breasts are very attractive and sought after by boys in Cameroon,I only watched for 2 mins,this is obvious child abuse,but its accepted ,Culture? these words you used:
"This is utterly disgusting total savagery complete disrespect for Human Rights!
This video should be shown in Africa so that people will see and understand what racism is and what the reality of state brutality is. "
If you inserted "shown in france" instead of shown in Africa your words would fit exactly with my revulsion that I experienced watching those 2 mins of documentary footage about Cameroon.
I personally do not think that either of our postings should be made the subject of political debate,both actions are wrong.
I appriciate that this topic is not titled breast ironing in Cameroon,but the same feelings that you have expierenced applied to me when I saw this small footage on Cameroon.
I have now started a new topic here:
http://www.gambia.dk/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=9526 |
"Simple is good" & I strongly dislike politics. You cannot defend the indefensible.
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LEMON TIME
Afghanistan
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Janko
Gambia
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Posted - 04 Aug 2010 : 21:57:26
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Thanks, Sister O
interesting and valid points there.
I wonder why toubab1020, sees a "blame colonialism" notion in every topic, or dicussion, or subject matter. Is it accentuating a preconception, or consenting guilt or a strategy of bagatellizing serious issues of hegemonic implications? But to compare French-racism with Cameroonian Cultural practice is the crux of apathy.
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Clean your house before pointing a finger ... Never be moved by delirious Well-wishers in their ecstasy |
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toubab1020
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Posted - 04 Aug 2010 : 23:48:21
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Janko,I really do have to take issue here with you,I will try not to hurt your feelings I dont want to do that but for you to write this :" But to compare French-racism with Cameroonian Cultural practice is the crux of apathy" does show that you appear not to understand what I was endevouring to show ,and that was that BOTH of these incidents are WRONG and cannot be justified I think that you are a traditional person,(I may be mistaken, but that is the impression I get from your writings)"ironing" young girls breasts with hot stones or other objects is WRONG ,but done no doubt by mothers who are so fearful of their daughters being made pregnant by boys and the family shame that may bring ,the girls have to be injured, that mothers abuse their own flesh and blood,is totally "WRONG". and unacceptable.
Janko,it is VERY usual for African peoples to BLAME their "colonial masters" for practices that were normal over a hundred years ago and site them as an excuse for Africa's problems,MOST Africans have a very hard time accepting responsibility for their own actions,how much better to blame someone else for the problem,then its NOT YOUR problem anymore, and it does't have to be resolved by you.
I can understand most of your posting and have responded the best way I can I am however very confused by "bagatellizing serious issues of hegemonic implications? " what does this mean? |
"Simple is good" & I strongly dislike politics. You cannot defend the indefensible.
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Janko
Gambia
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Posted - 05 Aug 2010 : 02:54:38
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toubab 1020
"bagatellizing serious issues of hegemonic implications? "
- To make serious “Power Relations” issues insignificant (diminutive).
The French State has the power and authority. The French police are licensed users of violence and in this case against powerless women and children, who happen to be from “Africa”
This topic is; “French Police vs African Women”, in France. Not about a Cameroonian Cultural practice, in Cameroon. Therefore comparing the two at this material time equals to not heeding to the predicament of the women.
If throwing the rotten traditions from the bag of traditions instead of throwing the whole bag is being a traditionalist, then you are one as well. It surprises me that you do not see what is wrong with comparing the two at this juncture; it would have been totally different if you had started a new topic.
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