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Moe
USA
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 Posted - 18 Jul 2010 : 22:08:35
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You are an Inbred too Toubab1020, Did you plan to disregard all the rhetoric form Dembish including the threat of "EXPOSURE" are you mentally unstable or just plain stupid. Everything I say here is godly if it makes you angry and hopeless.99.99% of what I say is scripture, Dembish is Handicapped now after betting his two legs, I have "Two Chicken legs for sale" anyone in need of "TANKA" can holla at a brother.................................Peacequote:
Originally posted by toubab1020
I know that I wrote I would stay out of this "domestic" interchange of ideas,Moe,I agree with others that you often post stuff that can easily be disagreed with, but on this occasion,your words (from an outsiders perspective) are from the heart and I agree with those words.Except perhaps for the inbred bit.
Sorry for the intrusion.
[quote]Originally posted by Moe
"I will tell you what the following people represent. As Turk stated and elaborated on earlier, they are Typical Gambians and products of our very own society. None of us is any different from what these people represent. Jesus's involvement in the Armed robberies within Banjul even led to the death of a police officer but it is nothing new in our society, the very people you entrust will betray you and look you in the face or possibly castigate you at the end, Jawara's regime suffered the same fate. How did Commercial bank lose almost 200 million under the watch of competent individuals. Let me reassure ya'll are The people I am scared of in Gambia really it is not the State but my very own brothers and sister's. I simply understand why slavery was so prevalent within the region and so successful. There should be a blood type J, newly discovered by Moe.If you wanna make me the subject of discussion Dembish start a new thread inbred..............................................Peace
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I am Jebel Musa better yet rock of Gibraltar,either or,still a stronghold and a Pillar commanding direction
The GPU wants Me Hunted Down for what I don't know ..... |
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toubab1020
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Posted - 18 Jul 2010 : 23:52:37
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From all this huff and puff that you write MOE I take it that you agree with my posting ? except the inbred bit that is  |
"Simple is good" & I strongly dislike politics. You cannot defend the indefensible.
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Moe
USA
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Posted - 18 Jul 2010 : 23:55:56
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Of course toubab1020 My argument was based on the premise of what Turk elaborated on earlier...........................Peacequote:
Originally posted by toubab1020
From all this huff and puff that you write MOE I take it that you agree with my posting ? except the inbred bit that is
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I am Jebel Musa better yet rock of Gibraltar,either or,still a stronghold and a Pillar commanding direction
The GPU wants Me Hunted Down for what I don't know ..... |
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Moe
USA
2326 Posts |
Posted - 19 Jul 2010 : 01:08:02
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Justice Emmanuel Amadi of the Banjul High Court on Thursday 15 July, convicted and sentence former Chief of Defence Staff of The Gambia Armed Forces (CDS), Lieutenant General Lang Tombong Tamba, Brigadier General Omar Bun Mbye, Major Lamin Bo Badjie, Lieutenant Colonel Kawsu Camara, (alias Bombarde), Former Deputy Inspector General of Police (DIGP) Momodou B. Gaye, Gibril Ngorr Secka, Abdoulie Joof and Yousef Ezziden (alias Rambo) to death after he convicted them on two counts of treason. He also struck out count three against the accused persons.
In his marathon Judgment that lasted from 10:00 am to 12:55pm, Justice Amadi first highlighted the three counts charges against the accused persons and the particulars of offence in connection to each count. He pointed out that the state called sixteen witnesses and at the end of the case the defence made a “No Case to answer” submission which he dismissed on 17th May. He said the accused persons opened their defence and at the end of their defence they filed a written address, and the DPP also filed his address on behalf of the state.
Justice Amadi also went into the evidence of all the sixteen witnesses and analysed them. He also went into the evidence of all the convicted men. He posited that at the end of the trial both sides filed written addresses to the court. He added that Lawyer Pap Cheyasin Secka challenged count three as bad in law and urged the court to strike it out. Justice Amadi indicated that he agreed with Lawyer Secka and stated that count three is substantially defective and he therefore struck count three out.
On the charges of conspiracy, Justice Amadi stated that when two or more people agreed to do a particular mission that constitutes a conspiracy. He added that for the charges to succeed the prosecution most prove that there was an agreement between the convicts. He stated that he had summarised the evidence of the first prosecution witness (PW1) and that of the eight accused persons. He said PW1 said all the eight men attended meetings at the houses of General Tamba, adding that all the eight men denied ever attending any meetings. He added that the question is how did PW1 (Ebrima Marreh) come to know all the eight men and how did he get their telephone numbers. He indicated that General Tamba knows all the eight accused persons and that Yousef Ezziden is a personal friend to him to the point of having a special lunch together on Saturdays. He asserted that from the evidence of PW1 he has no doubt that they were members of the coup plot and that his evidence is credible and that the court believes him. He added that he cannot convict them on the charges of conspiracy if the evidence of PW1 was not corroborated, but that he will consider the evidence of PW2 (Rui Jabbi). He cited a case and the Evidence Law book of Hassan B. Jallow. He added that both PW1 and PW2 cannot be an accomplice in the case. He stated that PW2 (Rui Jabbi) was very frank about himself that he is a businessman, and that the court believes him and his evidence is credible.
At this point, electricity went off due to heavy down pour and wind. The court room became very dark. The Director of Public Prosecution (DPP) Richard N. Chenge gave a mobile phone with torch light for the judge to see to enable him to read out the verdict.
Continuing, Justice Amadi pointed out that the piece of evidence of PW1 was unchallenged and that his evidence compels that of PW1. He added that the court also found corroboration in the evidence of PW3 (Kabiru Saidy). He noted that the prosecution has proven the charge of conspiracy against the accused persons.
He pointed out that the evidence of PW5 (Inspector Lamin Cham) a police officer who discovered military gears at the houses of General Tamba and those military items corroborated the evidence of PW1. He posited that Ngorr Secka in his evidence described Rui Jabbi (PW2) as an unknown man to him, adding that the court did not believe that he did not know Rui Jabbi. He stated that PW3 (Kabiru Saidy) testified as to how he came to know PW2 (Rui Jabbi) and Ngorr Secka. He added that the evidence of PW3 remains unchallenged. He also added that the evidence of PW 2 about the marabout, the jujus and the 21 bull sacrifices was not challenged by the defence and is uncontroverted. He added that the sixth accused (Ngorr) and Koukoie Samba Sanyang were acting on behalf of all the accused persons were engaged in a spiritual mercenary. He said that the accused persons’ defence constitutes only a denial of any involvement.
He said, “I’m satisfied that the prosecution has proven counts one and two beyond reasonable doubt and I therefore convict them all as charged.”
Lawyer Sheriff M. Tambedou, defending General Tamba, Lieutenant Colonel Kawsu Camara rose up and reminded the court that the convicts were not charged under the death section of the Criminal Code. He cited section 35-subsection (1) and (2) of the Criminal Code (CC). He argued that the convicts were not charged under section 35, subsection (1)(f), but were instead charged under section 35 sub-sections (a) and (g). He added that the convicts can only be sentenced to life imprisonment and not death. He urged the court to use its discretion not to impose a death sentence on them.
In mitigating on behalf of the General Tamba and Colonel Kawsu Camara, Lawyer Tambedou said General Tamba has served the state for a good twenty three (23) years. He added that Tamba is a family man with two wives and several children and that his family depends entirely on him as far as their livelihood is concerned. He asked the court to impose a lesser sentence on him.
On Colonel Camara, Lawyer Tambedou stated that considering the services that he rendered to The Gambia from 1988 to 2009, that the court should temper justice with mercy. He added that Colonel Camara is a man with three wives with children who only look upon him as their benefactor.
Lawyer Papa Cheyasin Secka on behalf of Brigadier General Omar Bun Mbye, Major Lamin Bo Badjie, Former DIGP Modou Gaye, Gibril Ngorr Secka, and Abdoulie Joof, also echoed the statement of Tambedou that the sections that the convicts are convicted on do not constitute a death penalty.
On Abdoulie Joof, Lawyer Secka said Mr. Joof is 68 years old, with three wives and about 27 children. He said when he was arrested he was so sick that even the DPP helped facilitate for him to be taken to hospital. He added that Mr. Joof has suffered three heart attacks while in detention. He described Mr. Joof as a man of unblemished character and very valuable to his community. Lawyer Secka stated that, Ngorr Secka, Modou Gaye, Lamin Bo Badjie and Bun Mbye, apart from the fact that they are all family men, have served their country for over 20 years with commitment. He asked the court to temper justice with mercy on them.
The defence counsel for Yousef Ezziden, Mrs. Hawa Sisay Sabally, said her client is a sick man and that his medical records are before the court. She added that there is no evidence before the court to show that he is a habitual offender or ever convicted on any crimes. She added that due to the precarious health condition the court can fine him. She called on the court to temper justice with mercy on all the accused persons and to impose a fine on Mr. Ezziden.
Justice Amadi said he had listened to the mitigations of the counsels and their arguments. He announced the verdict as follows. “Lieutenant General Lang Tombong Tamba Sentenced to death on counts one and two. Brigadier General Omar Bun Mbye sentenced to death on counts one and two. Major Lamin Bo Badjie sentenced to death on counts one and two. Lieutenant Colonel Kawsu Camara sentenced to death on counts one and two. Momodou Gaye sentenced to death on counts one and two. Gibril Ngorr Secka sentenced to death on counts one and two, Abdoulie Joof sentenced to death on counts one and two and Yousef Ezziden sentenced to death on counts one and two.” He also added that the convicts are to suffered death in a manner to be authorised by the law, adding that they have the right to appeal.
As Justice Amadi was reading out the sentence, family members of the accused persons could be seen and heard weeping, crying on top of their voice thus prompting the entire court into confusion and chaos. Justice Amadi later resorted to shouting on top of his voice for the public to hear him announced the sentence on the last convict.
The convicts could be seen waving to their loved ones and asking them to take the verdict in good faith as they do.
Outside the court premises, families of the convicts were seen fainting and collapsing on the ground. A taxi was seen evacuating those that fainted to the hospital.
The convicts were later driven towards Mile 2 central prison amid heavy armed escort by the police and the military. Many family members were left wandering within the court gate for more than an hour.
Souce:http://www.foroyaa.gm/modules/news/article.php?storyid=5083 |
I am Jebel Musa better yet rock of Gibraltar,either or,still a stronghold and a Pillar commanding direction
The GPU wants Me Hunted Down for what I don't know ..... |
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Dembish
Gambia
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Posted - 19 Jul 2010 : 15:49:16
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Moe majority of Gambians are far different from these people,they end up the way they do simply beccause of the choice of Dictator Jammeh when it comes to employing Gambians.
He based his principle of employing Gambians or even developing regions based on party support (sycophancy) rather than qualification or experience, as he himslf openly says.And Moe sadly, but worth saying that many who come foward and willing to be sycophants are not the truthful supporters of his party, they are doing that for personal gains and once they succeeded in fooling Jammeh to an extend that they are granted public offices they quickly take the chance to either rich themselves or abuse it in incompetency.
Unless Jammeh starts to believe that we as a nation cannot all be supporters of his idea,that oppositions are NOT state enemies and stop maginalising Gambians who are well qualified to run public offices but hold difference stance to his idealogies,this trend of hiring and firing will continue till the end of his government.
Toubab the above is the reason,do not buy moe's idea of trying to categorise all Gambians as those sycophant lots who were willing to stripe naked all their human dignities and values to be kick around like a fooball by Dictator jammeh and easy dump at his will with no reason what so ever.
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Originally posted by Moe
FJC,
Baba jobe
Lang Tombong,
Kawsu Camara
Daba Marenah
Yankuba Touray
Ablie Kujabi,
Essa Badgie
I will tell you what the following people represent. As Turk stated and elaborated on earlier, they are Typical Gambians and products of our very own society. None of us is any different from what these people represent. Jesus's involvement in the Armed robberies within Banjul even led to the death of a police officer but it is nothing new in our society, the very people you entrust will betray you and look you in the face or possibly castigate you at the end, Jawara's regime suffered the same fate. How did Commercial bank lose almost 200 million under the watch of competent individuals. Let me reassure ya'll are The people I am scared of in Gambia really it is not the State but my very own brothers and sister's. I simply understand why slavery was so prevalent within the region and so successful. There should be a blood type J, newly discovered by Moe.If you wanna make me the subject of discussion Dembish start a new thread inbred..............................................Peace
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Originally posted by Dembish
Hahahahaaaaa, I can't help but laugh loud.........Sister O, No threat mean at all, I simply mean APRC suporters like you end up picking jobs with Dictator Jammeh and in the Process end up on his hook.FJC, Baba jobe, Lang Tombong, Kawsu Camara,Daba Marenah,Yankuba Touray,Ablie Kujabi,Essa Badgie,the list goes on were all once strong supporters of APRC, where are they today.I Dembish can swear that I wil not be hooked because I will not go near a Dictator like Jammeh, I rather die jobless.So be warn, you better see the light now like the rest of us (Anti APRC)or you risked being hooked oneday.I have called for Moes return Home to help jammeh but he keeps ignoring that bit, a clear manifestation that he is just playing mouthy, but he knows conditions are not good backhome over here.Hope u got the point sister?
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gambiabev
United Kingdom
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Posted - 19 Jul 2010 : 18:13:55
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I have just read this posting and responses. I am in shock that anyone could defend the death penalty, especially as the President himself came to power from a coup! Should he be tried too?? Oh but his coup was successful of course, so now he tried all ways possible to hang onto power.
Why are there coup attempts? People are wanting change and it is NOT going to happen through the ballot box as Gambia IS NOT a democracy, it is a dictatorship. How else will change happen?
In an ideal world people would go to the ballot box and vote for change. Most people are too fearful to vote against the President.
Muslims shouldnt take the life of another, or so is my understanding. So how will the death penalty be handed out and who will do the killings in the name of the state?
Probably they will be given clemancy, but this system enourages people to be fearful of the President because it makes him omnipotent, God like, with the power to imprison someone or take away a life on a whim.
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Moe
USA
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Posted - 19 Jul 2010 : 18:42:24
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| It will happen the same way in Britain, there will be a coup and women will be raped in the British Parliament, Your loved ones including your family will be under the wrath of the menace to society, Pillaging, destruction just all of the above including raping any white woman. Someone like you might even be chased in the streets butt Naked. Are you mentally unstable Bev, or is it the fool in you coming out. This is exactly what I mean when I say some Toubab's don't mean well for the Gambia. What makes you think the Average Gambian wants Jammeh out . 700 plus people just crossed the carpet to the ruling party, keep your retarded foreign ideas to your self. What happens in Africa you are clueless about, yeah right a nother coup huh!.............................................Peace |
I am Jebel Musa better yet rock of Gibraltar,either or,still a stronghold and a Pillar commanding direction
The GPU wants Me Hunted Down for what I don't know ..... |
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Dembish
Gambia
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Posted - 19 Jul 2010 : 19:40:48
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Gambiabev, don't be surprise my brother if these people are killed.It will definately not beyond me if they faced a firing squart.Jammeh want to put as much fear into gambians as possible,to send a massage that no one should attempt to coup.
With regards to who will execute these people? my brother killings have happening in the Gambia Since advent of the AFPRC/APRC and those who are doing them claim to Muslims.My believe is jammeh himself is not a Muslim,if he can swear in a public media to kill people and bury them six feet,while pulicly threatening to kill human right activist. He believed in witch craft. just as recent as last week he publicly claimed that the Sankulay kunda bridge was difficult to build to the contrators due to supernatural presence of that particular river, come on guys where is the muslim faith in Allah in this Dictator? |
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Moe
USA
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Posted - 19 Jul 2010 : 20:55:43
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| Sannehmentering was in Gambia prior to the coming of Jammeh. How do you explain that............................................Peace |
I am Jebel Musa better yet rock of Gibraltar,either or,still a stronghold and a Pillar commanding direction
The GPU wants Me Hunted Down for what I don't know ..... |
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turk
USA
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Posted - 19 Jul 2010 : 21:03:29
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Muslims shouldnt take the life of another, or so is my understanding. So how will the death penalty be handed out and who will do the killings in the name of the state?
Gambia, this has nothing to do with Muslims. USA has death penalty. |
diaspora! Too many Chiefs and Very Few Indians.
Halifa Salah: PDOIS is however realistic. It is fully aware that the Gambian voters are yet to reach a level of political consciousness that they rely on to vote on the basis of Principles, policies and programmes and practices. |
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Sister Omega
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dembis
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Posted - 19 Jul 2010 : 23:44:46
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| tom dembis dont worry yourself to moe. this type of man like moe will shot you live just because you are a opposition. Lang tombong did the same and what happened now to him. Jammeh like to killed his supporters more than the people opposing him. Let gambians keep encouraging jammeh to go on even if his killig there family members.Cowards die 100 times before there death. shakespeare |
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gambiabev
United Kingdom
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Posted - 19 Jul 2010 : 23:55:15
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Sister Omega, I KNOW many parts of USA have death penalty. That doesnt make it RIGHT!
I wasnt blaming it on MUSLIMS, I was saying as Muslims they should be against it. The same as I believe any peaceful person should be.
Moe, you believe the propaganda. Next thing you will be saying the observer is an independent newspaper!
Do you really believe that most people think the President is wonderful and they want him to stay in power for ever? Do you believe most people arent frightened of the President and his people in the army, the police and the secret service?
Sometimes on here I think people deliberately misunderstand postings for the sake of an argument. |
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toubab1020
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Posted - 20 Jul 2010 : 00:32:06
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Surley not Gambiabev,
"Sometimes on here I think people deliberately misunderstand postings for the sake of an argument."
Some fine upstanding posters here, take MOE and Turk for instance very logical and not at all contaversal or want an arguement.  |
"Simple is good" & I strongly dislike politics. You cannot defend the indefensible.
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Dembish
Gambia
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Posted - 20 Jul 2010 : 16:09:19
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| "Jerejeff" Tom Dembis, this man Moe is Brainless, very thick..all the sycophants are eating the humble pie at the moment,bcos what the opposition has warned them is what is come to light with the Lang Tongbong Case. |
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