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gambiabev
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 Posted - 09 Oct 2010 : 21:33:15
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Sister Omega, where do you get the statistic that 85% of jobs in Uk arent advertised? Is that official? I really don't believe it.
In most jobs now there are procedures to be followed and criteria to be met. In most situations people appoint the best person for the job. Surely that is in everyones best interests?
Casual work may go by word of mouth, but even then an interview will usually take place and references and qualifications will be checked.
I would like to think the UK is a meritocracy. Perhaps that is not the case these days. That would make me sad.  |
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LEMON TIME
Afghanistan
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Posted - 10 Oct 2010 : 11:11:54
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Originally posted by gambiabev
Sister Omega, where do you get the statistic that 85% of jobs in Uk arent advertised? Is that official? I really don't believe it.
In most jobs now there are procedures to be followed and criteria to be met. In most situations people appoint the best person for the job. Surely that is in everyones best interests?
Casual work may go by word of mouth, but even then an interview will usually take place and references and qualifications will be checked.
You are absolutely right on this one my friend Bev. |
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Sister Omega
United Kingdom
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Posted - 10 Oct 2010 : 13:51:04
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Yes, Bev 85% of all jobs aren't advertised these are known as "Hidden Jobs". For example if you look in your weekly regional or daily newspaper in the Job sections. Do you really think the small about of adverts really represent the amount of vacancies within any locality? It costs money for companies to advertise therefore they will choose the cheapest form of advertising as possible and that is through networking using word of mouth over the expense of advertising in a newspaper, over the radio or on TV or the Internet.For example an Employer has just lost a member of staff and receives a speculative CV and Cover letter through his/her e-mail of someone looking for a job. They are more likely to respond to the e-mail and invite that person for an interview. Than to create an advert on the internet. Or a Job hunter sees whilst doing CV Drops works down a side road and goes into a cafe asking if there are any vacancies and there are extra shifts available they're more likely to asked to do a work trial.
The job selection process would usually involve an interview which could take various forms i.e one-2-one, group, panel, staged, telephone work trials or a combination of these.
The way that a Job Hunter looks for a Job and the way that the employer looks for a employee are different. For example in the UK there's an Employability Sector, which is responsible for teaching the unemployed employability skills to get them back into work.
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toubab1020
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Posted - 10 Oct 2010 : 14:10:18
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Lemon Time and Gambiabev, I am afraid I have to agree with Sister O on this,true there are legal rules in place regarding employment that are supposed to ensure that the best person for the job from the applicants gets the job, BUT it is a fact that networking plays a very important role in the outcome of a job offer, also if applicants fail to find out about the specifics of the job on offer then that is rightly regarded by the prospective employeer as a lack of interest in the company,your chances of employment are also greatly enhanced if you do homework on the aspireations of the company and the name of the present chairman,things like that.
I recognise that there are areas of very high unemployment in the UK in these areas new jobs are few,gone are the days when you could be lucky enough to get a job locally,also a choice of job that you would really love to do is now limited, meaning that you may be have to be prepared to take what's on offer.The days of sitting back and waiting for jobs to be provided for you whilst you draw your state benefits are rapidly coming to an end.The present government has made it quite clear that if you are able to work then you will work and no longer be able to sit on your a... doing nothing,letting the state care for you. |
"Simple is good" & I strongly dislike politics. You cannot defend the indefensible.
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Momodou
Denmark
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Posted - 11 Oct 2010 : 07:46:15
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What There are people in the world without a Facebook page ????? Lol
Sorry for going off topic but the network’s superficial approach to social interaction and the strong focus on self-promotion does not attract me. There is too much about "Watch me! Watch me!" |
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toubab1020
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Posted - 11 Oct 2010 : 10:09:12
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| Well Momodou, I do agree with your position,but that's the way of the world now,self promotion to enable YOU to get the very best exposure,however if people want to use the facility good luck to them,personally I think its a bit of a waste of time and effort but its the modern way and as has been seen on bantaba you are a non person if you don't twitter or have facebook, beebo or some similar application, you know what Momodou we should start "The Non Person Club" |
"Simple is good" & I strongly dislike politics. You cannot defend the indefensible.
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gambiabev
United Kingdom
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Posted - 11 Oct 2010 : 11:18:34
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Facebook can be positive. It is away of making contact with old friends and keeping contact with colleagues.
I also use it as a sort of blog, so friends can keep in touch with what is going on in my life.
I don't think there is anything sinister in that.
For many people it is an outlet for an expression of who they are with photos and opinions and links to things they are interested in.
It shouldn't be in replacement for a life in REALITY, but I find it enhances my life by keeping me in touch with people I may have lost contact with.  |
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jambo
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Posted - 11 Oct 2010 : 16:47:41
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| Sister Omega has touched a point about jobs not being advertised. A few of the companies I work for ask employees "to recommend a friend", or "help wanted" do you know anyone type of schemes". Also i know my local council was sued for only hiring family members of people already in work. jobs for the boys kind of thing. If you had a job, you could more or less guarantee to find a job for a family member. |
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toubab1020
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Posted - 11 Oct 2010 : 17:07:20
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Gambiabev for you I am sure its fine,but for momodou and I we are not sure,nothing sinister but too much of ourselves would be exposed may be the way to look at it,or frightened of all this modern stuff another way
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Originally posted by gambiabev
Facebook can be positive. It is away of making contact with old friends and keeping contact with colleagues.
I also use it as a sort of blog, so friends can keep in touch with what is going on in my life.
I don't think there is anything sinister in that.
For many people it is an outlet for an expression of who they are with photos and opinions and links to things they are interested in.
It shouldn't be in replacement for a life in REALITY, but I find it enhances my life by keeping me in touch with people I may have lost contact with.
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"Simple is good" & I strongly dislike politics. You cannot defend the indefensible.
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Sister Omega
United Kingdom
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Posted - 11 Oct 2010 : 22:14:33
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Jambo I just wondered if you'd looked at the Cultural Music section there is a link to Jayzik. I remembered some time ago you mentioned that you knew her.
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