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kassma
334 Posts |
 Posted - 17 Jul 2006 : 22:53:31
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Originally posted by Jede
Kassma,
I dont agree with you. The main influx of foreigners in Western Europa these days are now from Russia, Oekraine and the former states within the USSR, Roemenia, the former Yougoslavia, Albanie, and so on.
You blame Western europe for the bad ecomic situation in the former states under influence of communism too or for colonial behaviour in these states ?
Jede, the problem with immigration might be from these eastern european countries, but you'll never hear about it, if there are a few people of color there, they will say that its those people that are messing up everything. i blame the west for both, communism wasn't a virus that had to be destroyed or humanity was be destroyed but the west sure acted like it, they have a hand in the way those countries are too. look at the history, if the west doesn't like something, its only option is to destroy it and then say "oh, look how bad this is, didn't we say it was bad" |
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Jack
Belgium
384 Posts |
Posted - 18 Jul 2006 : 00:07:37
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Kassma,
I think you really have a problem with west-european countries. You blame those countries for just everything if I follow your postings on this bantaba.
From colonialism to introducing HIV, from economic disasters to social systems. From fair voting systems to dictatorship.
The west is as bad as can be, and Africa is heaven with only angels (just an expression because I'm atheist). Everything which is good is due to African behaviour, religion and mentality, and everything which is a problem now in the world is due to western europe. 
And probably you don't hear in the Gambia about the eastern european migrants in Western Europe, but the problem is there. And I can assure you that they cause really problems (I risk now to generalise but..) women traffic, drug traffic, human traffics, heavy criminality... Gangs, I assure you its really heavy stuff.
And if you talk about communism, don't tell me that's a good society model. It is against nature of mankind and can't survive on the long term. It has however its benefits like any system. Even dictatorship has its benefits, if you have a good dictator or if you are the dictator  LOL
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Janyanfara
Tanzania
1350 Posts |
Posted - 18 Jul 2006 : 00:40:39
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Thank you then bro jede for that correction.well Jede as you would agree with me sounds very femenine so I thought you are a very beautiful inteligent girl/woman.
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kassma
334 Posts |
Posted - 18 Jul 2006 : 01:29:24
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quote:
Originally posted by Jede
Kassma,
I think you really have a problem with west-european countries. You blame those countries for just everything if I follow your postings on this bantaba.
From colonialism to introducing HIV, from economic disasters to social systems. From fair voting systems to dictatorship.
The west is as bad as can be, and Africa is heaven with only angels (just an expression because I'm atheist). Everything which is good is due to African behaviour, religion and mentality, and everything which is a problem now in the world is due to western europe.
And probably you don't hear in the Gambia about the eastern european migrants in Western Europe, but the problem is there. And I can assure you that they cause really problems (I risk now to generalise but..) women traffic, drug traffic, human traffics, heavy criminality... Gangs, I assure you its really heavy stuff.
And if you talk about communism, don't tell me that's a good society model. It is against nature of mankind and can't survive on the long term. It has however its benefits like any system. Even dictatorship has its benefits, if you have a good dictator or if you are the dictator LOL
i have no problems with countries that behave, and are just and have just policies. look at your policies and then tell me, an african, that i have no reason to be angry. but yes, africa is great, GOD bless Africa and Gambia!!! |
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Jack
Belgium
384 Posts |
Posted - 18 Jul 2006 : 08:46:59
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Well Kasma,
Every country has several reasons to complain.
Belgium was in his history ruled by almost every country in Europe and was the battle field for almost every war in Europe. 
It started with the romans, after that came the Vikings, Spane, Austria (habsburgers), France, the Netherlands, and in our recent history Germany 2 times. They all robbed Belgium at that time.
Belgium as it exists now is a compromise between the big nations in 1830 : England, France, Germany and Russia and as a result of that Belgium exists in fact of 2 different populations : a french speaking part and a flemish speaking part. It was England who presented us the first king, Leopold I (a german with tied family branches in england..), not because of his qualities but with the only purpose to stabilisize Europe at that time and to reduce the influence of France.
In the history of every country there are opportunities to get forward, to improve. But you have to grab them. (don't take this personnaly)
ci jamaa. |
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serenata
Germany
1400 Posts |
Posted - 18 Jul 2006 : 15:26:30
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Originally posted by Jede
And if you talk about communism, don't tell me that's a good society model. It is against nature of mankind and can't survive on the long term.
Jede, I am not a Communist, as I think for complex society systems the 'classical' Marxist-Leninist model (not to mention the Stalinist model...) is not appropriate.
But to say that Communism is 'unnatural' is nonsense. Every human society in its beginning is 'communist'. Sharing is a human basic, while money grubbing is the result of a certain ideology and certain societal factors which I would call 'differenciated', but not 'developed'. |
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gambiabev
United Kingdom
3091 Posts |
Posted - 18 Jul 2006 : 15:38:08
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I think there is a nature urge to want to improve and better oneself in life. Sharing is for survival, but you want your family to have the nicest compound or the best dresses?
In communist china for many years everyone wore the same uniform. Individulaity was supressed. Intellectualism was undervalued and so on.
I think a combination of the best of both models works best. Freedom, democracy with social support of those that cant make it for themselves. |
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serenata
Germany
1400 Posts |
Posted - 18 Jul 2006 : 16:21:54
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Originally posted by gambiabev
I think a combination of the best of both models works best. Freedom, democracy with social support of those that cant make it for themselves.
Really, this would be the best. |
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OB1
84 Posts |
Posted - 18 Jul 2006 : 23:36:14
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Folks....there will be NO elections in 2006 in The Gambia.
rest assured. I first said it here.
peace.
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kondorong
Gambia
4380 Posts |
Posted - 18 Jul 2006 : 23:37:50
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| I ALSO SAID ABOUT REGISTRATION ISSUES HERE LONG BEFORE THEY HAPPENED. IT LOOKS LIKE NEARING EVERY ELECTION IEC IS A CASUALTY. A DEFACTO ONE PARTY STATE WILL EMERGE AFTER THE 2006 ELECTIONS |
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OB1
84 Posts |
Posted - 18 Jul 2006 : 23:46:37
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| There will be none. |
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kondorong
Gambia
4380 Posts |
Posted - 18 Jul 2006 : 23:55:17
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| WHY. I BELEIEVE THERE WILL BE AN ELECTION IN 2006. SURE APRC WILL WIN. NO DOUBT ABOUT THAT. THEY ARE BETTER ORGANISED AND FOCUSED. I WILL VOTE APRC COME SEPTEMBER. I HATE TO LOOSE AND THE OPPOSITION WILL SURELY LOOSE. |
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Janyanfara
Tanzania
1350 Posts |
Posted - 19 Jul 2006 : 00:35:51
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never will there be a one party state in the Gambia never.Be rest assured of that I tell you.
I only hope and wish no vote for the opposition as a sign of protest for their betrayal of the people. |
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kobo
United Kingdom
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jambo
3300 Posts |
Posted - 08 Aug 2006 : 17:46:35
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Kobo, you and Che have come back , been anywhere nice or just chillin |
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