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Momodou
Denmark
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 Posted - 22 Oct 2009 : 17:18:22
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Lawyer Darboe Explains Reasons Behind NADD’s Failure
By Saikou Ceesay
 The leader of the biggest opposition United Democratic Party has cleared the air over assertions of other opposition members that Gambian oppositions are in a state of "coma", saying that even though he respects the expressions of opinions of by any individual, he does not see that as a fact.
"What he [OJ] said is not a fact but an opinion and even if he was stating facts, those facts are not applicable to the UDP Party. If there is anything, it is his party that is in a state of ‘coma’. How can one say that a party is in a state ‘coma’ when UDP party has four elected National Assembly Members, one of whom is a member of the ECOWAS Parliament? How can one say that UDP is in a state of ‘coma’ when the party is actively engaged in grassroots mobilization?
In an exclusive interview with The Daily News, Darboe said UDP Youth Wing have recently concluded a nationwide tour. A women wing has also just mobilized a rally at Bakau. "It is because of the popularity of the UDP that even those members of other opposition parties lay claim to membership of UDP when they switch allegiance to the ruling APRC party. With all due respect to OJ, his assertion that the opposition is in a state of "coma" is incorrect in so far as the UDP is concerned, and I know as a fact that the NRP is as active as it was in 1996", Darboe explained.
According to Darboe, he had known from the Chairman of PPP Yahya Ceesay that PPP is not interested in supporting a candidate. "Infact the majority of those who signed the documents for the registration of PPP have made it clear that they are not interested in supporting a candidate but instead, to regain their assets seized", he said. But at that selection, Mr. Omar Jallow was nominated, and when my deputy Yahya Jallow told him that, "look your party PPP is not interested in supporting a candidate", OJ responded that he is NADD and not PPP.
Mr. Yahya Jallow nominated me and there was no representative who seconded his nomination. Mr. Halifa Sallah was nominated but later, his nomination was withdrawn but someone from NDAM said OJ is the one nominated. And I said, "But look there has to be consensus and we said we (UDP) have not agreed". The following Saturday when they convened, Mr. Halifa Sallah was nominated by Mr. Sam Sarr, editor of Foroyaa newspaper and they said that it was a mistake to have withdrawn Halifa’s previous nomination.
Darboe explained that the re-nomination of Halifa Sallah to him showed something different. He said there were few members of his executive who were against his resignation and they tried to convince him to stay on so that they can work out a solution to the impasse.
"On the 7 February, I tendered my resignation from NADD the political party and indicated that the UDP was committed to the Memorandum of Understanding signed in 2005 and that it would be to the UDP to decide on its continuous membership of the alliance. The Chairman Mr. Hassan Musa Camara said he was not accepting the resignation letter because he wanted to work on me to reverse my decision. I however promised that I will withhold the copies of my resignation to the press and IEC, which I did".Below is the excerpt of the interview…..
Is it true that the opposition parties are in a state of “coma” as stated by Omar Jallow alias OJ?
Every person has a right to his opinion and I always respect expressions of opinion by any individual. I do have respect for Mr.Jallow and I appreciated his expression of opinion about the state of the opposition. What he said is not a fact it’s an opinion and even if he was stating facts those facts are not applicable to the UDP Party. If anything it’s his party that is in a state of “coma”. How can one say that a party is in a state “coma” when UDP party has four elected National Assembly Members, one of whom is a member of the ECOWAS Parliament. How can one say that UDP is in a state of “coma” when the party is actively engaged in grass root mobilization. Our youths have recently concluded a nation wide tour. A women’s wing has just mobilized a rally at Bakau.It is because of the popularity of the UDP that even those members of other opposition parties lay claim to membership of UDP when they switch allegiance to the ruling APRC party. With all due respect to OJ his assertion that the opposition is in a state of “coma” is incorrect in so far as the UDP is concerned and I know as a fact that the NRP is as active as it was in 1996.
What can you tell us about the country’s multi-party system as we speak now?
The Gambians are struggling to have a real multi-party system in the country; the fact that we have many registered political parties does not in itself guarantee multi-partyism.The environment within which these parties operate is the factor that determines the existence or non existence of multi-partyism.It is obvious that the current environment is very hostile to the growth of multi-partyism.The opportunities accorded to the ruling APRC party in the dissemination of their views through the national media is denied the opposition parties. The independent press which could serve as a credible medium for dissemination of opposition views is under very serious threats, intimidation, harassment and cajoling. Other institutions that are supposed to serve as bulk-walks to support multi-partyism all bow to the wishes and dictates of President Jammeh and his ruling party. What is required is to create conducive environment which allows for the operation of multi-partyism.
In one of our editions published Gambians have expressed lack of confidence in the opposition parties as they have failed in the formation of NADD coalition. What is your opinion on this?
I appreciate the fact that every Gambian has right of opinion on every particular issue and Gambians are entitled to have their views on opposition alliance. I have in the past resisted to answer any question or make comment on why I resigned from NADD.I have always referred people to Mr.Hassan Musa-Camara who was Chairman of NADD.I have always believe that Mr.Camara will give unbiased and an impartial view of events to the Gambian people from the first day of the negotiation to establish (NADD)to the day I resigned.However,recent comments in the Foroyaa Newspaper by Mr.Halifa Sallah in his way forward as well as Mr.OJ urging the Daily news to ask Hamat Bah and I why we resigned, I can no longer be silent and leave Gambians with the belief that Mr. Bah and I were the obstacles to an opposition alliance.
Mr.Ceesay in 2004, all the parties agreed on the need to form an alliance for opposition parties and this need became more urgent and apparent when the constitution was amended by introducing a simple majority for Presidential elections. Hitherto a Presidential candidate would be declared duly elected if he obtains more than 50% of the votes validly cast at the elections. We all felt it made more sense to have an alliance of opposition parties so that we do not have split votes to the opposition. The UDP was very committed to the idea and because of that we agreed to be at par with all other opposition parties. We agreed to have equal representation and equal voice with even an untested party like NDAM,we agreed to have equal voice and equal representation with a party such as PPP which had a committee only in Serrekunda.We also agreed to be at par with PDOIS which did not even poll more than 5% at the 2001 Presidential elections. I know as a fact that non of the leaders of these parties would have accepted this sort of arrangement if they had the political dominance UDP enjoyed. We conducted all the negotiations on the basis of having an alliance of opposition parties. We did not discuss and agree on the merger of political parties or the creation of new political parties. The opening words of the preamble are “We, the undersigned representatives of opposition political parties, who seeked to establish an alliance…….” Under part one of the Memorandum of Understanding (MOU) the alliance was established and article one states “an alliance is hereby established. The name of the alliance is National Alliance for Democracy and Development (NADD) with the acronym (NADD).Then article four states amongst other things “all opposition parties who are signatories to this MOU shall be founding members of the alliance. The selection of candidate for the alliance for Presidential, National Assembly and Council elections should be by consensus but if there is an impasse then selection must be by Primary election which will be restricted to party delegates and there would be equal member of delegates comprising a chairman and youth leader of every party from village, ward and constituency.
These are some of the most important provisions in the MOU, what we have opted to do by MOU is to set up an alliance of opposition parties. Obviously the criteria set for the selection of candidates could be met only by the UDP. PDOIS did not have the following to meet the criteria, nor did the PPP or NRP.It was only UDP that had the capacity and following to meet this criteria. It is common knowledge that the MOU was signed in 2005.At that ceremony something happened which would have aborted the signing ceremony. The UDP delegation comprising me and my deputy Mr.Yahya Jallow went to that ceremony to sign the MOU on behalf of UDP and make a statement that is appropriate on such occasions. Before the commencement of the ceremony I was given a document virtually an oath declaring commitment.OJ told me he was seeing it for the first time and I was going to either walk out or refuse to sign the declaration. But there were four gentlemen in the assembly, Mr. Sam Johns,Dr.SJ Pama,Alagie Ba Trawalley and Dr.Sheriff Ceesay to whom I deferred because I have enormous respect for these people and I think it would be out of place for me not to conform with this unexpected development. This development to me showed insincerity and a lack of openness on the part of whoever might have drafted that declaration and brought it to the ceremony without consulting my party. Nonetheless UDP remain committed to the MOU. After the signing of the MOU some members of the alliance conscious of UDP’s dominance came to the conclusion that if a Presidential candidate were to be selected under the MOU, the UDP being the dominant opposition political party would produce a candidate and they did not want to support a candidate running in the name of UDP.So they flouted and the discussion to register NADD as a political party really took at least three months. In fact I presented a scenario to them if the Independent Electoral Commission (IEC) were to invite me to a meeting as leader of UDP while I am also a member of NADD,a registered political party and an issue arises between UDP and NADD which one will I support. I continuously advised them against the registration of NADD as a political party. During one of the meetings when I came very hard in my arguments one of the party leaders walked out of the meeting called some people in the United States to say that Darboe and UDP are creating obstacles for us. And before we left the meeting it was on the Freedom Newspaper, and me and my party are being portrayed as anti-united opposition when infact the anti-united opposition are those who refused to accept the reality of the fact that the MOU signed did not call for the establishment of a new political party. And I remember, I think it was on the 16 April 2005,I said since you are insisting go and register it. When the constitution of NADD, the political party, was presented by Managing editor of Foroyaa Newspaper Sam Sarr to the IEC for registration he reported he was asked certain questions. This made the Chairman Mr.Hassan Musa Camara to ask Sam Sarr to go and withdraw the document he submitted at the IEC for registration but it was too late.
Now what followed the Registration of (NADD)?
All the opposition seats in the National Assembly were lost, although three of them were regained following the bye-elections. And in fact when the court made the ruling I told all of them that with my little understanding of the Gambian constitution I know this is what would have happened. I also hinted that I will be considering my position in NADD viz a viz UDP because it is legally impossible for me to be a member of two different political parties and I cannot abandon UDP for a new party.
In 2005, before I left for the United States, Musa Drammeh of the then PPP and Mr.Hassan Musa-Camara invited me to a short discussion at which they also requested the presence of Alhagie M.C Cham because Musa Drammeh knew Alagie MC Cham could influence my decision on certain matters. Musa Drammeh pleaded with me that I should continue my membership of NADD because my departure from NADD would have some adverse consequences on candidates who were to contest those bye-elections.Mr.Drammeh initiated this move because the previous day OJ was on BBC network Africa programme saying that anyone who resigned from NADD would be committing a political suicide. This was an apparent reference to me because I had earlier indicated to the executive of NADD that I would consider my position in NADD.Out of respect for Hassan Musa Camara, Alhagie MC Cham and Musa Drammeh I acceded to Mr.Drammeh’s request. I was the only political leader who went to all the constituencies and appealed to the UDP supporters to vote for the NADD candidates. And I personally met all my expenses; I don’t even rely on even my party to meet the cost of my travels and other expenses. I did so because I wanted to see that candidates running on NADD ticket won their seats notwithstanding my earlier disagreement to register NADD as an opposition party.
Around December 2005, there was talk of celebrating the first anniversary of the founding of NADD and I insisted you cannot go to the public and celebrate without NADD having a leader. My insistence led the way for them to select a flag bearer. I had known from the Chairman of PPP Yahya Ceesay that PPP was not interested in supporting a candidate, infact the majority of those who signed the documents for the registration of PPP have made clear that they are not interested in supporting a candidate but instead to regain their assets seized.
But at that selection Mr. Omar Jallow alias OJ was nominated, and when my deputy Yahya Jallow told him that look your party PPP is not interested in supporting a candidate. OJ responded that he is NADD and not PPP.Mr.Yahya Jallow nominated me and there was no representative who seconded his nomination.Mr.Halifa Sallah was nominated but later his nomination was withdrawn but someone from the National Democratic Action Movement (NDAM) said OJ is the one nominated and I said but look there has to be consensus and we said we (UDP) have not agreed. The Following Saturday when they convened Mr.Halifa Sallah was nominated by Mr. Sam Sarr editor of Foroyaa Newspaper and they said that it was a mistake to have withdrawn Halifa’s previous nomination.
I discussed the situation with senior members of my executive in Pipeline here and I told them that I think it is time for me to resign from NADD because I did not believe that the other party leaders are sincerely committed to the idea of a united opposition as I was. I also felt that I was an obstacle to those who were aspiring to be flag bearers for NADD.I told members of the executive that if their was sincerity among the leaders they would have worked out a consensus around the candidature of Mr.Jallow but the re-nomination of Halifa Sallah to me showed something different. There were few members of my executive who were against my resignation and they tried to convince me to stay on so that they can work out a solution to the impasse.
On the 7 February I tendered my resignation from NADD the political party and indicated that the UDP was committed to the Memorandum of Understanding signed in 2005 and that it would be left to the UDP to decide on its continuous membership of the alliance. The Chairman Mr.Hassan Musa-Camara said he was not accepting the resignation letter because he wanted to work on me to reverse my decision. I however promised that I will withhold the copies of my resignation to the press and IEC which I did. Prior to that NADD set-up a committee to work out the qualifications to be satisfied by anyone before being selected as NADD flag bearer. My deputy Mr.Jallow refused to nominate anyone to represent UDP on that committee but the chairman prevailed Kemeseng Jammeh to do so. And when this committee met they came out with seven point criteria to be satisfied by anyone. On the day I tendered my resignation I made it quite clear to all of them that there was clear lack of sincerity and I and my party will not subscribe to any qualification or criteria that is not contained in the constitution of the republic of the Gambia. Since I am an obstacle I resigned, you can go ahead and do what you want.
Even when I resigned from NADD and OJ conceded to Halifa Sallah, Lamin Waa Juwara put forward his candidature in opposition to Halifa Sallah. You see the lack of sincerity and lack of commitment on the part of those who professed to be champions of the united opposition in the Gambia. This is synopsis of what led to my resignation from NADD.I have omitted from this narration, the various campaigns launched against me in the US when the leadership of NADD went to the US supposedly to sell NADD to Gambians in the US whilst I was busy in the Supreme Court trying to save the Parliamentary seats that were lost. I have also omitted to mention the various clandestine efforts made by some members of NADD during the period that I was defending some of them against the charges brought against them before Justice Paul.Hamat Bah resigned from NADD to join the UDP in an alliance because he faced an accepted reality that in politics it is the number that matters and UDP had the largest following and it made more sense for anyone really committed to restore true democracy that we yearn for should give his support to the UDP and that is what Mr. Bah did.
What do you think is the way forward for the country’s opposition parties?
Those who are in leadership position of parties must accept the fact that Gambians know that the ultimate decision in electing any government is thires.We the political leaders must also accept that we do not have all the ideas that can take this country out of this hostile political environment and move the country forward. We must not be presumptuous and we must disrobe ourselves from the clothes of self-righteousness believing that we are the only ones capable of doing things right. Self perpetuation or a self-perpetuating government must be eschewed. When we talk about self perpetuating government does the Gambia have such a history? Now was the PPP government a self perpetuating government? Why would anybody think that if Hamat Bah is voted into office he will run a self perpetuating government? Why would anyone think that a UDP government would be a self perpetuating one?
These are some of the thinking some of the political leaders must discard and come to terms with the fact that there is no party leader who would perpetuate himself in power. My own personal history shows absolute and uncompromising adherence to constitutionalism. Thirty-six years of standing in support of the constitution of the Gambia at all levels demonstrates and provides testimony that if I do not enforce the present constitution I will not do anything that would not go down well with the wishes of the Gambian people. The executive of the UDP is meeting to consider proposals submitted to it for a united opposition front and for me it will not be proper at this stage to say what such a united front should take.
Source: The Daily News
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shaka
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Posted - 22 Oct 2009 : 22:35:53
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| At long last!!!! Finally the man has spoken after all these years Gambians have been demanding answers regarding the NADD split up, only to be bloated with the cold air mantra of 'lack of sincerity.' I urge all Gambians to keep a tight lip while noting every transcript of the 'DEFUNCT' NADD leaders as they delve into reasons for the disgusting split. Let them peruse each other's transcripts, interviews and opinions as they narrate their role in the ill-fated drama that was the NADD split up, from each's stand point. Let Gambians then be the judge. What should not be permissible however is to make innuendos and accusations only to close the lid before finishing the statement. Like Darboe's "I have omitted from this narration, the various campaigns launched against me in the US when the leadership of NADD went to the US supposedly to sell NADD to Gambians in the US whilst I was busy in the Supreme Court trying to save the Parliamentary seats that were lost. I have also omitted to mention the various clandestine efforts made by some members of NADD during the period that I was defending some of them against the charges brought against them before Justice Paul" This in my opinion has no place in an open and transparent debate. Speak your mind and let Gambians determine relevance from your opinion. It is omissions and sitting on 'facts' like this over the last few years, that have led to the stifling of this long overdue debate. We would have been on a different level today in terms of the next step for political union of the opposition if this debate was so forthcoming. Unto you Hamat Bah, Assan Musa Camara and then a second round for each person to counter accusations, tags and blames. Then Gambians can have a say. Bravo to The Point, Foroyaa and The Daily News for enhancing the democratic dispensation. Keep it up and pursue all parties in this debate. I would also recommend the diaspora online newspapers to pursue the diaspora leaders and gangs involve in this scandal after the home leaders' debate. |
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kayjatta
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Posted - 23 Oct 2009 : 08:08:08
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Where is Hamat Bah I think both UDP and NADD should be very careful of some ex-PPP officials, M.C. Cham and others who might just be interested in regaining their lost assets. Darboe's revelations kind of made me uneasy.
It, however, looks like the real healing process for the opposition may have started now. Maybe a catharsis, if you like... |
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Momodou
Denmark
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Posted - 23 Oct 2009 : 09:32:33
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Kay, like you I hope this is the beginning of the healing process.
I am disappointed by some of the behind the scene activities by our leaders revealed by this interview of Ousainou Darbo. At the same time I am not surprised because we have seen the munities of the NADD internal meetings published by Freedom Newspaper during their negotiations even before the official spokesperson made any announcement. I am sure Pa Ndery will not reveal that source but I believe those were some of the people who contributed to the total collapse of a united opposition at the time.
Thanks to The Daily News and The Point for starting this debate among the Opposition leaders. Keep up the momentum.
Let’s hear from Hamat Bah, Assan Musa Camara and Halifa "then a second round for each person to counter accusations, tags and blames" as stated by Shaka above.
They owe it to thousands of Gambians whose hopes were shattered due to their lack of unity in 2006.
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Dalton1
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Posted - 23 Oct 2009 : 13:40:17
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I fear that the Daily news might run into a problem very soon like the Independent Newspaper. The reason why that is , because they are doing a heck of a good job, and Jammeh might be troubled that this will hatch to opposition unity again. These fine touches of the Daily News are very welcome and truly the "healing" process of the opposition like noted in commentaries. Each and everyone would have to puff out their hearts' contents. First, let us hope that such debates are contained (well moderated) and factual from (all of them), so it doesn't have to deepen any wounds or create further problems. Agreable, this phase of it was due long time ago. 2011 is nigh and of course Jammeh must go! I hope that people truly learnt from their mistakes, faults, etc...and a degree of wiseness attained from it.
Politicians are all very interesting....wallahi wal kitab.
http://homepage.usask.ca/~wae123/misc/prose/hinustan.htm
By John Godfrey Saxe (Master Poem in the 50s)
I read this poem, infact memorized it in grade 6 six; have you by chance read it before? Whenever I see men, in this case the opposition debating like observed, it reminds me of this mighty poem.
Jokes: We need to get all of them to a podium, so we can have a moderator... I tell you folks, there is too much to read these days (Al ham dou lil lah!)
Gratis, tre. bien! Any ways, Good luck again...May Allah (swt) make it fruitful, and protect us from any seen and unforeseen 'fitnah' in it. (AMEN)
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"There is no god but Allah (SWT); and Muhammad (SAW)is His last messenger." shahadah. Fear & Worship Allah (SWT) Alone! (:
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dbaldeh
USA
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Posted - 24 Oct 2009 : 10:19:23
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Originally posted by Momodou
Kay, like you I hope this is the beginning of the healing process.
I am disappointed by some of the behind the scene activities by our leaders revealed by this interview of Ousainou Darbo. At the same time I am not surprised because we have seen the munities of the NADD internal meetings published by Freedom Newspaper during their negotiations even before the official spokesperson made any announcement. I am sure Pa Ndery will not reveal that source but I believe those were some of the people who contributed to the total collapse of a united opposition at the time.
Thanks to The Daily News and The Point for starting this debate among the Opposition leaders. Keep up the momentum.
Let’s hear from Hamat Bah, Assan Musa Camara and Halifa "then a second round for each person to counter accusations, tags and blames" as stated by Shaka above.
They owe it to thousands of Gambians whose hopes were shattered due to their lack of unity in 2006.
Uncle Momodou, It is clear to all Gambians that Waa was behind a lot of the distrust Darboe is talking about. Waa was simply there to spoil the game - first of all to deny Darboe and the UDP any nomination and secondly, to simply leak out any information agreed by the opposition. Him and Kebba Jallow were the source of information for Freedom simple as that.
Waa has long since been a political opportunist and he exploits vacuums and injects himself where he sees room for grow... Look at him in APRC after suffering to near death.
Waa aside, it was disappointing that level headed leaders like Darboe and Halifa would allow such Childish behavior to take over our national interest.
Contrary to what many of you think that this is the begining of the healing process, I think this is the begining of ripping each other as to what happened during the NADD split. Since then they both had tight lips on exactly what transpired.
Now that Darboe has spoken openly about it... you will see Halifa coming out and speaking his side of the story.
Gambians know where OJ, and all those ex PPP members hearts are... they are still bitter and would switch in a split of a second to regain their lost political pride.
Finally, I was more dissappointed by Halifa than anyone else. What I had expected was for Halifa not to hide behind "I was nominated by NADD so therefore I will not let them down" This is an excuse.
Halifa should have once again been the National Hero by honorably declining his nomination and leaving the fight to UDP since the only thing that made them stay was if Darboe got the nomination. So in the interest of our nation, he should have let Darboe lead... simple despite the fact that UDP did not show much sincerity in their negotiations either.
The way forward now is to come back to the table and continue where we left off... I strongly believe there is room for agreement. Besides whoever comes to power, this fight will continue.
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Moe
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Posted - 24 Oct 2009 : 17:17:34
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"Uncle Momodou, It is clear to all Gambians that Waa was behind a lot of the distrust Darboe is talking about. Waa was simply there to spoil the game - first of all to deny Darboe and the UDP any nomination and secondly, to simply leak out any information agreed by the opposition. Him and Kebba Jallow were the source of information for Freedom simple as that"
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I don't know who you mentor is but you really suck at Gambian politics Dbaldeh ,This is why i tell you village fools to hush you filthy mouths ,You never fail being on the opposite end of the spectrum and thinking you have a clue whats Up. First of all the green snake under the green grass was none other than MC CHAM ,thats the opportunistics ******** ya'll should be pissed at ,Ask Darboe what Mc Chams role was in the collapse ,He had an axe to grind with the ex PPP memebers ,of course it's obvious you have no clue as a journalist cum political commentator or is it the other way around.either way trust me Dbaldeh your village is too far for you to be privy to anything conclusive. Mind you I told you Mc Cham, do your research and i will get to educate you more on why it all fell apart and what role MC cham played with his traditional tribal cards.Waa is an innocent man fed up with Gambian politricks and trickery.
"Waa has long since been a political opportunist and he exploits vacuums and injects himself where he sees room for grow... Look at him in APRC after suffering to near death."
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You seem to know a lot about opportunistic behaviour Dbaldeh ,you also vacuum and inject yourself where ever you see room for growth "YEAH OR NO" POLITICAL COMMENTATOR ,EDITOR ,SECRETARY TO BABA GALLEH what else did I forget.Take a better look at yourself before you speak.
"Waa aside, it was disappointing that level headed leaders like Darboe and Halifa would allow such Childish behavior to take over our national interest."
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This is just another one of your flawed outrageous and backward statements ,with no facts to back it up.........
"Contrary to what many of you think that this is the begining of the healing process, I think this is the begining of ripping each other as to what happened during the NADD split. Since then they both had tight lips on exactly what transpired."
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Thats what you Know and think ,everyone knows what happened Dbaldeh and who is responsible ,only the Agenda driven village fools are clueless and supposedly they run a newspaper."Now that Darboe has spoken openly about it... you will see Halifa coming out and speaking his side of the story.
Gambians know where OJ, and all those ex PPP members hearts are... they are still bitter and would switch in a split of a second to regain their lost political pride."
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Let me tell you something Demba Baldeh you have no clue as to what their motives are and you can trust your favourite marabout with this fact. OJ is not a dog and most of the PPP leadership are noble men ,they will never throw up (vomit)and eat it right back up again. Thats for ya'll badolla's to do. If you were not so stupid i would have cared to take my time and give you various instances when they could have taken the various international jobs that were declined and this includes offers from Pres. Jammeh himself. I don't mince my words ,so do your homework once again Dbaldeh,ya'll are non entities the reason for your excessive imagination" Finally, I was more dissappointed by Halifa than anyone else. What I had expected was for Halifa not to hide behind "I was nominated by NADD so therefore I will not let them down" This is an excuse.
"Halifa should have once again been the National Hero by honorably declining his nomination and leaving the fight to UDP since the only thing that made them stay was if Darboe got the nomination. So in the interest of our nation, he should have let Darboe lead... simple despite the fact that UDP did not show much sincerity in their negotiations either."
You once again don't know how the nomination was carried out , SO You Go asK YAHYA CEESAY!!, DUMMIES
"The way forward now is to come back to the table and continue where we left off... I strongly believe there is room for agreement. Besides whoever comes to power"
Hmmm only in your sweet dreams Dbaldeh.................................Peace |
I am Jebel Musa better yet rock of Gibraltar,either or,still a stronghold and a Pillar commanding direction
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Karamba
United Kingdom
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Posted - 24 Oct 2009 : 20:28:06
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Originally posted by Dalton1
I fear that the Daily news might run into a problem very soon like the Independent Newspaper. The reason why that is , because they are doing a heck of a good job, and Jammeh might be troubled that this will hatch to opposition unity again. These fine touches of the Daily News are very welcome and truly the "healing" process of the opposition like noted in commentaries. Each and everyone would have to puff out their hearts' contents. First, let us hope that such debates are contained (well moderated) and factual from (all of them), so it doesn't have to deepen any wounds or create further problems. Agreable, this phase of it was due long time ago. 2011 is nigh and of course Jammeh must go! I hope that people truly learnt from their mistakes, faults, etc...and a degree of wiseness attained from it.
Politicians are all very interesting....wallahi wal kitab.
http://homepage.usask.ca/~wae123/misc/prose/hinustan.htm
By John Godfrey Saxe (Master Poem in the 50s)
I read this poem, infact memorized it in grade 6 six; have you by chance read it before? Whenever I see men, in this case the opposition debating like observed, it reminds me of this mighty poem.
Jokes: We need to get all of them to a podium, so we can have a moderator... I tell you folks, there is too much to read these days (Al ham dou lil lah!)
Gratis, tre. bien! Any ways, Good luck again...May Allah (swt) make it fruitful, and protect us from any seen and unforeseen 'fitnah' in it. (AMEN)
Dalton
To have decent politics in Gambia, the bandit Yaya has to be fair with people and stay away. With Yaya Jammeh still greedy to cling on that position, there is no way that even the best organised group of politicians will get near winning. That is not because Gambians are not yearning for better life when Yaya is dispensed off. It is because the bandit is so blind with greed for power.
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Janko
Gambia
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Posted - 25 Oct 2009 : 02:32:07
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One could mend something that is broken or needs fixing but there is nothing to fix, the only way forward is to discard the present opposition to give way for fresh air and fresh blood.
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…We did not discuss and agree on the merger of political parties or the creation of new political parties.
The opening words of the preamble are “We, the undersigned representatives of opposition political parties, who seeked to establish an alliance…….” MOU … article one states “an alliance is hereby established. The name of the alliance is National Alliance for Democracy and Development (NADD) with the acronym (NADD).Then article four states amongst other things ...
“all opposition parties who are signatories to this MOU shall be founding members of the alliance. The selection of candidate for the alliance for Presidential, National Assembly and Council elections should be by consensus but if there is an impasse then selection must be by Primary election which will be restricted to party delegates and there would be equal member of delegates comprising a chairman and youth leader of every party from village, ward and constituency. …
… At that ceremony something happened which would have aborted the signing ceremony. … Before the commencement of the ceremony I was given a document virtually an oath declaring commitment. … But there were four gentlemen in the assembly, Mr. Sam Johns, Dr. SJ Pama, Alagie Ba Trawalley and Dr.Sheriff Ceesay to whom I deferred because I have enormous respect for these people and I think it would be out of place for me not to conform with this unexpected development. This development to me showed insincerity and a lack of openness on the part of whoever might have drafted that declaration and brought it to the ceremony without consulting my party. Nonetheless UDP remain committed to the MOU…
Interestingly, the question of a merger has never been discussed verbally but yet the articles quoted above emphasised it clearly. Mr. Darboe did observe the shortcoming or the trick if you want, yet he signed and personally paid the expenses to campaign for NADD candidates. At the same time, busy in the Supreme Court trying to safe the lost Parliamentary seats. The unavoidable questions that follow are, whose seats and why was he engaged in something so unconvincing?
After reading the interview it became clear to me that the only consistent thing with the NADD saga is how it ended; splitting and loosing the Parliamentary seats independent parties had before indulging in the biggest political blunder ever. Is clear that this present opposition is not ready to lead and it scares me to hell knowing that this is the political standard in the Land of my birth.
This brings me back to the same question once again and will keep on asking until that day…
Is it more important to replace a government than acquiring the qualities to sustain decent and healthy democracy? If it is, then we are heading for the fire hence we would be jumping from the frying pan.
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Clean your house before pointing a finger ... Never be moved by delirious Well-wishers in their ecstasy |
Edited by - Janko on 25 Oct 2009 02:36:45 |
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dbaldeh
USA
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Posted - 25 Oct 2009 : 04:39:26
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Originally posted by Moe
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Let me tell you something Demba Baldeh you have no clue as to what their motives are and you can trust your favourite marabout with this fact. OJ is not a dog and most of the PPP leadership are noble men ,they will never throw up (vomit)and eat it right back up again. Thats for ya'll badolla's to do. If you were not so stupid i would have cared to take my time and give you various instances when they could have taken the various international jobs that were declined and this includes offers from Pres. Jammeh himself. I don't mince my words ,so do your homework once again Dbaldeh,ya'll are non entities the reason for your excessive imagination" Finally, I was more dissappointed by Halifa than anyone else. What I had expected was for Halifa not to hide behind "I was nominated by NADD so therefore I will not let them down" This is an excuse.
Moe, you are at it again.... you simply cannot argue with decency... instead you go on your name calling as if you are the only one with a mouth.
If you want to argue with substance and decency I am willing to engage you intellectually... however, I will not waste my time reponding to you if you continue to go on this route... This route is simply too low and immoral for me to take.
Everyone was aware of the rivalry between Waa and Darboe... and who was talking to Freedom everytime there was a meeting with NADD? was it Waa or MC Cham?
The fact is it doesn't matter to me who infact was leaking the NADD meetings and who was the cancer among them...
As far as former PPP officials are concern I don't have much admiration for many of them simply because of the corrupt practices they were engaged in. As much as Jammeh is worst for the Gambia... they were as bad as any corrupt politician Africa has ever seen.
Again, I will not and I repeat... will not allow my person to be attacked for freely expressing my personal opinion which everyone here is entitled to.
If you simply hate my person... that is your prerogative and I don't care for real. Besides you don't need to respond to my postings if you so desire.
Demba
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Baldeh,
"Be the change you want to see in the world" Ghandi
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terangba
Egypt
225 Posts |
Posted - 25 Oct 2009 : 17:04:26
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| Dbaldeh, no matter how late it is APRC is scared of a united front; APRC opperatives will do everything in their power to derail a union. Keep your head up. |
God gave men dominion over the beasts and not over his fellow men unless they submit of their own free will. - Napoleon |
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Janko
Gambia
1267 Posts |
Posted - 28 Oct 2009 : 15:30:17
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| The lesson learnt dictates that putting ones eggs in a bottomless opposition basket without form or shape is equal to giving up the victory before the battle begins. |
Clean your house before pointing a finger ... Never be moved by delirious Well-wishers in their ecstasy |
Edited by - Janko on 28 Oct 2009 15:31:03 |
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