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mandjago

Gambia
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Posted - 18 Apr 2006 :  21:45:47  Show Profile Send mandjago a Private Message
Hello everyone ! I'm in personal need for information on the above mentioned hospital. It is because I read in a newspaper today, that Gambians are treated for free in that hospital and secoundly the founder of that hospital Ms. Zachau is advertising a Anti-Aids-project in The Gambia. Well I'm thinking of to help with my contacts for maybe hospital beds or such things. Now my problem, I'm not sure whether really she is doing the things the way she is advertising it here in Germany. So therefor I will be very glad if someone here could feed me with some more information. Anybody ever been to this hospital ? I've heard really wild roomers and need to find out some truth...so please if anyone knows something relevant for me...?

kondorong



Gambia
4380 Posts

Posted - 18 Apr 2006 :  22:01:49  Show Profile Send kondorong a Private Message
You might want to do more research .There was a clinic with similar name that ended in some crisis with local gambian partner and they split. They were initially in Churchills Town then a branch evolved at bakoteh Bridge and now another at S/Kunda in the compound of late AA Njie the NCP candidate.

I believe they wrere about to build a new clinic just before Sotokoi but after Faraba.

May be i am mixing things up. Please contact the Department of State for health or the NGO Affairs Agency. The hospital cannot escape their radar.

“When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants and murderers, and for a time, they can seem invincible, but in the end, they always fall. Think of it--always.”
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mandjago

Gambia
9 Posts

Posted - 18 Apr 2006 :  22:08:44  Show Profile Send mandjago a Private Message
quote:
You might want to do more research
:) That's why I'm here...looking for reliable sources. The advise on the department is great. Thank's a lot....I will do that.
Myself I'm trying my personal ways to understand life and humanity these days...(attention -it could get out of topic)and my sources are defenetly not reliable, but if this is a true matter, then I will do my part to help. But if my feeling is prooven right.....(I have a bad taste on the name of the founder) then once more my trust and believing in good hearted people has been shaken and twisted to the worst...*as a non-believer you see me sitting here praying for light* I'm a little desperated these days and therefor special greatful for your reply...THANK'S again

Edited by - mandjago on 18 Apr 2006 22:10:39
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sab



United Kingdom
912 Posts

Posted - 18 Apr 2006 :  23:48:25  Show Profile Send sab a Private Message
Greetings Mandjago, I am afraid this clinic had a news story in The Daily Observer end of December.

Following a tip-off about substandard health care The DOSH&SW ordered its immediate closure. When inspected it was operating below required standards, including improper staffing, lack of medical doctor, two unregistered nurses, deplorable sanitation, etc.,

According to inspectors they found used syringes & gloves, ragged pieces of clothes & undisposed medical wastes with needles & gloves all over the place. The admission rooms emitted a stink and the ceiling covered with spider webs & dust etc.,

The senior nurse told the team that the clinic had been operating without a qualified medical doctor for around nine months etc.,

Bremen Clinic is part of West African German Project.

Having been in emergency health care for 23years this took my attention and I kept it on file.

regards, sab.
Freedom & peace.....

The world would be a poorer place if it was peopled by children whose parents risked nothing in the cause of social justice, for fear of personal loss. (Joe Slovo - African revolutionary)
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sab



United Kingdom
912 Posts

Posted - 18 Apr 2006 :  23:59:40  Show Profile Send sab a Private Message
Mandjago, the clinic that was closed was near the Bakoteh Bridge.

regards, sab.

freedom & peace....

The world would be a poorer place if it was peopled by children whose parents risked nothing in the cause of social justice, for fear of personal loss. (Joe Slovo - African revolutionary)
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kondorong



Gambia
4380 Posts

Posted - 19 Apr 2006 :  00:20:15  Show Profile Send kondorong a Private Message
I thought as much. Sab has a better picture. Good job.

“When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants and murderers, and for a time, they can seem invincible, but in the end, they always fall. Think of it--always.”
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sab



United Kingdom
912 Posts

Posted - 19 Apr 2006 :  00:39:23  Show Profile Send sab a Private Message



Greetings, but my head hurts watching you! Can’t you just do it with your feet for a change?

regards,
freedom & peace....

The world would be a poorer place if it was peopled by children whose parents risked nothing in the cause of social justice, for fear of personal loss. (Joe Slovo - African revolutionary)
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kondorong



Gambia
4380 Posts

Posted - 19 Apr 2006 :  01:59:02  Show Profile Send kondorong a Private Message
It was done on purpose for us to do something about gambia. The country needs us badly.

“When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants and murderers, and for a time, they can seem invincible, but in the end, they always fall. Think of it--always.”

Edited by - kondorong on 19 Apr 2006 01:59:21
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serenata



Germany
1400 Posts

Posted - 19 Apr 2006 :  13:30:52  Show Profile Send serenata a Private Message
ASB (Arbeiter-Samariter-Bund) Clinic is a very recommendable German outpatient clinic in Dippa Kunda. They helped me a lot when I had this accident last year. At that time, Gambians paid 7 Dalasis for a consultation/treatment (medicaments are extra). The friendly and competent doctor asked me with a smile to pay the(moderate) 'toubab price', and I did it willingly as a small support for the clinic. But as many people go there for treatment, you need to have a little bit time.

Immediately after the accident they transported me to Lamtoro clinic in Kololi, which was a real rip-off. Just a few details: If my husband hadn't stopped him, the doctor, A. Sallah, would have put a bandage around my leg without cleaning the wounds. He ignored the fact that I was in a state of shock, and so on. But his bill was 'first class'!!

Edited by - serenata on 19 Apr 2006 17:42:54
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kondorong



Gambia
4380 Posts

Posted - 19 Apr 2006 :  18:06:19  Show Profile Send kondorong a Private Message
I have learnt one thing in the Gambia.Nearly all lab tests are done at RVH and then you are charge a higher price for the service they have not done infact. They only collect results from RVH.

Therefore you are better off checking RVH for lab tests yourself. I knew this when i tried to create a health insurance for our employees. I went around every clinic in the Gambia and up to Brikama to see for myself. This is a useful information. Local clinics take samples to RVH and for a cost so low and then end up charging the patient sometimes ten times the cost.

We therefore decided not to sign a coverage with any of them and left it open to staff to choose where ever they would lke to go but advised them about hidden costs that had nothing to do with actual care. Over 90% of our staff end up at RVH, Ahmadiyya, and Westfield Clinics. There was a 20% co-payment employees were responsible for.

“When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants and murderers, and for a time, they can seem invincible, but in the end, they always fall. Think of it--always.”

Edited by - kondorong on 19 Apr 2006 18:09:36
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bamba

Sweden
401 Posts

Posted - 19 Apr 2006 :  18:07:40  Show Profile Send bamba a Private Message
Serenata, it's amazing that Dr. Adama Salah's hospital is the most expensive private hospital in Gambia. He got his medical education in Sweden free of charge. He was brought to Sweden by a filthy rich Swede that sponsored him thru medical school uphere. The expectation was for him (Adama) to go back home to help his people. He is a qualified paediatrician and nothing else. But in Gambia, a doctor is a specilist in all fields, sadly.

Being a proprietor of the most expensive private hospital in Gambia is not my idea of helping ones people, or?

Bamba
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kondorong



Gambia
4380 Posts

Posted - 19 Apr 2006 :  18:12:28  Show Profile Send kondorong a Private Message
Bamba

I learnt that many years ago. You will be suprised how much of work is contracted outside and clinics just sit and charge above the actual cost for not doing anything. RVH sadly has better equipment than the clinics although we are made to believe the reverse.

“When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants and murderers, and for a time, they can seem invincible, but in the end, they always fall. Think of it--always.”
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bamba

Sweden
401 Posts

Posted - 19 Apr 2006 :  18:30:44  Show Profile Send bamba a Private Message
Kondorong, it's the church mouse culture in Gambia or Africa for that matter. One gnaws even the Bible that is supposed to preach salvation.

Bamba
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kondorong



Gambia
4380 Posts

Posted - 19 Apr 2006 :  18:43:56  Show Profile Send kondorong a Private Message
Getting sick in the gambia is a nightmare. A family memebr went to westfiled clinic afeter a shock with low blood sugar. Even though they do not have insulin, they insisted that she had to pay 2000.00. After the family paid, they only gave her drips and they said she needed to be transported to RVH because they do not have insulin. By the way she was still in coma. They also said they had no ambulance. Meanwhile the money is non refubdable. They hurriedly looked for taxi to Banjul because Serrekunda clinics ambulance was not available.

Whe they arrived at RVH, she was lucky to get insulin but found someone on the bare floor who would not be treated until he paid 150.00 fee. Nurses were passing by him on the floor to rot to death. This sick family memeber decided to donate 50.00 dalasis others contributed to make up the difference. It was then anyone starting to speak to the man on the floor.

More serious stories are a daily occurence. A dangerous place to be sick without money.Routine lab tests can cost more than three months salary of an average civil servant.

“When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants and murderers, and for a time, they can seem invincible, but in the end, they always fall. Think of it--always.”
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serenata



Germany
1400 Posts

Posted - 19 Apr 2006 :  18:50:54  Show Profile Send serenata a Private Message
Thank you, now I know about the pompous Dr. Sallah's background. He may be a good paediatrician, but he should keep his hands off accident surgery, and should have sent me directly to RVH, where I had to go for x-ray anyway the next day. Though my husband prevented the worst, my wounds got infected; the scars are still quite impressing.

I told the German Embassy about this, and they recommended ASB Clinic. Westfield and RVH are also good; I saw them all on my hospital tournee... But Kondorong, what you are writing about Westfield makes me think if I can trust my perception.

Edited by - serenata on 19 Apr 2006 18:54:21
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bamba

Sweden
401 Posts

Posted - 19 Apr 2006 :  18:59:28  Show Profile Send bamba a Private Message
When I worked for the Gambian government for ten years and yet found out that, accessibility to the meagre resources, called for matriculation to prescribed social stratas, I was forced to leave my country. It's thirty years now and I dont regret a single hour of it. Who can blame me?

Bamba
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