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dylanGER
Germany
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 Posted - 31 Oct 2008 : 19:58:26
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A Gambian friend of me had told me some month ago that he had to go with his mother to Guinea Bissau, because his mother became sick (he called it "Black Sickness") because she was being "bewitched" (sorcery)--- Well they had paid the nature doctor (he said they have good treatment and doctors in Bissau for these cases, but he had no moneys to return with her mother to Serekunda. So he asked me by mail for money, but the banks were closed and I had no money, plus, I was not so sure if I should believe this story.
He was very angry, because I did not sent money by Western Union
(shortly before I payed his private college plus the renovation of the compound, plus mobile bike and more.
THese are my questions:
-Should I (have) believe(d) the story of witchcraft?
-Does it excist ??
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How long shall they kill our prophets
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Some say it's just a part of it
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Edited by - dylanGER on 31 Oct 2008 20:31:14 |
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Momodou
Denmark
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Posted - 31 Oct 2008 : 20:22:10
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Originally posted by dylanGER
-Are all Gambians so greedy, not to understand, when U cant always
help with money? (I have to pay half of my income for kids-alimony each month)
Your question reminds me of people who think that all Germans are Nazis and believes in the third Reich which I know is not true.
Why do you generalise and insult all Gambians? |
A clear conscience fears no accusation - proverb from Sierra Leone |
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dylanGER
Germany
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Posted - 31 Oct 2008 : 20:30:09
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It was not my major question. I have to apologize, of course I
know, that i should not generalize this, of course there are all
types and kinds of people in all nations, plus I know that Gambia is
a very poor courty, witch makes it understandable. I dont judge any-
body, and if it sounded like i do, i am sorry. I delite the last question. |
How long shall they kill our prophets
While we stand aside and look -
Some say it's just a part of it
We've got to fullfill the book - BOB MARLEY |
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Momodou
Denmark
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Posted - 31 Oct 2008 : 20:46:40
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Your apology is accepted.
Perhaps you should see this topic: http://www.gambia.dk/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=3887
As a child, I used to believe that those Harry Porter kind of stories exists but nowadays I don't. Yes, witch craft is widely believed in The Gambia and I believe there are people in almost every country in the world who believes is such things. There are more believers of such things in poorer countries. |
A clear conscience fears no accusation - proverb from Sierra Leone |
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MeMe
United Kingdom
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Posted - 01 Nov 2008 : 00:57:34
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dylanGER - small niggle here but could you at least attribute your 'signature' statement to Mr Robert Nesta Marley! Many thanks, a grateful fan of the Legend himself  |
It is better to die standing than to live on your knees - Ernesto Guevara de la Serna |
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toubab1020
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Posted - 01 Nov 2008 : 12:43:33
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MeMe you appear to be a very well read person ! |
"Simple is good" & I strongly dislike politics. You cannot defend the indefensible.
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anna
Netherlands
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Posted - 01 Nov 2008 : 13:04:34
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I am sure that is so, but she's also yelling along with all Bob's songs when she is cleaning the kitchen. Right MeMe  ? |
When an old African dies, it is as if a whole library has burnt down.
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Bodwick
United Kingdom
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Posted - 01 Nov 2008 : 20:24:45
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Originally posted by Momodou
Your apology is accepted.
Perhaps you should see this topic: http://www.gambia.dk/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=3887
As a child, I used to believe that those Harry Porter kind of stories exists but nowadays I don't. Yes, witch craft is widely believed in The Gambia and I believe there are people in almost every country in the world who believes is such things. There are more believers of such things in poorer countries.
Hi Momodu,
I looked up your childhood boogyman ‘Porter’ as I was wondering if that was some sort of Jinnhttp://www.gambia.dk/forums/topic.asp?whichpage=1&TOPIC_ID=6440#43372 you used to believe in. I only found a few brief details…
The Lamin Porter Series A Quick Guide:-
Book One ‘Lamin Porter and the Stone Circles’ was the first volume in a planned series of seven books written by Gambian author J. K. Lamin and featuring young Lamin Porter, a Griot . The book was first published on 30 June 1907 by Bloomsbury in London, and has also been made into a film of the same name. The book was renamed in many countries including the USA to Lamin Porter and the Circles of Stone.
Book Two Lamin Porter and the Bantaba of Secrets, by J.K. Lamin, was the sequel to Lamin Porter and the Circles of Stone. It was the second book in a series of seven Lamin Porter books. The book was published in 1908. A film was thought about before the idea was dismissed as laughable.
Book Three Lamin Porter and the Prisoner of Mile Two, was the third book in the Lamin Porter series of children's books by J. K. Lamin. The book was published on July 8 1909. A silent film based on the book was released on May 31st 1917, in the United Kingdom (released early due to popular demand) and June 4th in the United States and many other countries but was a dismal failure due to a translation problem from the original Wolof into sub-titles.
Book Four Lamin Porter and the Goblet of Julbrew, was the fourth book in the Lamin Porter series. Published in 1910, the release of this book was surrounded by more hype than any other children's book in recent times - outdone only by its successors, Lamin Porter and the Order of the missing Pizza and Lamin Porter and the Half-Blood Toubab. At 666,636 pages (hardback British edition) it was fairly large for a children's book. The book attracted a lot of attention owing to a pre-publication warning from J. K. Lamin that one of the characters would be murdered in the book. This started a stream of rumours and speculation as to whom the murdered character would be. The publishing of Goblet of Julbrew caused unprecedented heights of Laminmania to be reached internationally. This novel won a Bubba Award in 1911.
Book Five Lamin Porter and the Order of the missing Pizza, was the fifth book in the Lamin Porter series of children's books by J. K. Lamin. The book was published on 21st June 1913 in the Gambia, United Kingdom, United States, Canada, Australia, and several other countries. It sold almost seventeen billion copies in the United States and the United Kingdom combined on that day. It has 355,438 chapters, and is about 2,555,525,500,000 words long.
Book Six Lamin Porter and the Half-Blood Toubab, is the sixth novel in J. K. Lamins popular Lamin Porter series. Set during Lamin Porter’s sixth year at Goa*****s, it prepares the reader for his last battles with Lord Lucan( who you will remember was found alive and well living in Georgtown, Janjangbureh in book two), whose past is examined in much more detail than in previous books in the series. The book also deals with the emerging romantic relationships of various students. When it was released on July 16th 1915, it was the first book in the Gambia to have a simultaneous standard print, large print, and Braille edition release.
Book Seven! Lamin Porter and the Deathly “Hello, nice to be nice!” At last! Bloomsbury have announced midnight on Saturday 21st July 2017 will be the release date for Book 7 “Lamin Porter and the Deathly “Hello, nice to be nice!””
Bod... |
A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly.
Specialization is for insects.
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Momodou
Denmark
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Posted - 01 Nov 2008 : 20:41:30
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 Bod.., you nearly made me believe by replacing J.K.Rowling with J.K.Lamin. Why do you think H.E is seen with his sword whenever he is seen in public.?  |
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MADIBA
United Kingdom
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Posted - 02 Nov 2008 : 15:08:49
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dylanGER,
Its very good to help the needy if you want to and can. However, if its becoming a worry i think its appropriate to make the beneficiary understand the limitations. You are not the only ones(non-Gambians) in such situations. Gambians too face such situations. Most of the people that have never travelled to the West think that we dnt have to work or work hard to earn our living. I as a Gambian, born and bred have to explain to some of my family and friends back home , how things work here in Europe. Some would understand others wouldn't but i would have made my point anyway.
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MeMe
United Kingdom
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Posted - 02 Nov 2008 : 18:45:34
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Originally posted by anna
I am sure that is so, but she's also yelling along with all Bob's songs when she is cleaning the kitchen. Right MeMe ?
Too true, Anna! Even funnier is the fact that our little prince loves Bob and even recognises his singing on the radio!! We're already worrying how to break the news to him that this legend is no longer with us ... it may be worse than telling a child there is no Santa Claus (not that we're thinking of buying into that particular piece of commercialism!!).
Thanks for taking note of my request, dylanGER, and apologies for not keeping with your thread |
It is better to die standing than to live on your knees - Ernesto Guevara de la Serna |
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dylanGER
Germany
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Posted - 02 Nov 2008 : 18:52:49
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No problem, nice to be nice!
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How long shall they kill our prophets
While we stand aside and look -
Some say it's just a part of it
We've got to fullfill the book - BOB MARLEY |
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Hiz Princess
United Kingdom
464 Posts |
Posted - 02 Nov 2008 : 22:21:05
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OMG
Bodwick my sons sitting here with tears rolling down his cheeks thanks for making our evening |
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serenata
Germany
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Posted - 04 Nov 2008 : 09:33:27
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dylanGer, I have the impression that your friend's demands are a bit immoderate. I must say that some, no, MANY people in Gambia seem to think that people in Europe, no matter if they are Europeans or Gambian migrants, are sh.....g money from dawn till dusk. Sorry, but this is what I experienced, Momodou. Some years ago we even had to change our telephone number because we, my Gambian husband and me, have been molested almost every day; sometimes the calls came from people we hardly knew. Life is not easy in Gambia, TV and ads arouse the desire for more and more goods, and this could lead to unrestrainedness and greed. But someone who sees me as nothing but a milking cow can't be my friend.
Bodwick, |
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Formby
United Kingdom
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Posted - 04 Nov 2008 : 14:44:53
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Bod Brilliant!
Anyway, to the OP. I don't like the sound of someone becoming 'very angry' at your refusal to part with (more) money. Sounds like manipulation. |
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dylanGER
Germany
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Posted - 04 Nov 2008 : 20:43:02
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THanks MADIBA,
its good to be understood by someone. I have tried to explain my limits and situtation (half of my income is gone at the beginning os the month of alimony), but either they dont understand or forget very
soon. This can make U sick, having a heart but being helpless.
I know my problem very well. We call it a "helping syndrom" here in Germany, lots of people, espeacilly those who work in the social
aereas, like I do, are affected with it.
I have faced life in the compounds, it really touched me and in some sense we are all rich here, but on the othe hand, I am happy with old used cloth, old cheap mobile, while those need a 500Euro mobile and are dressed much better than I am. Its hard to understand, why do poor
run after materialism?? do they think it makes them happier? I guess
some things like mobiles, expensive cloth are status symbols, the want to be "somebody" - but i would be more happier with a more simple life. Can´t we learn from each other? Learn to live with little, just hand of rice...
One thing kind of makes me proud, it seems that by the studies at the I.B.C. someone got a job, I say it seems, but never knowing if U get the truth in Africa,cause of corrution,is the thing thast makes me the most sad.
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Originally posted by MADIBA
dylanGER,
Its very good to help the needy if you want to and can. However, if its becoming a worry i think its appropriate to make the beneficiary understand the limitations. You are not the only ones(non-Gambians) in such situations. Gambians too face such situations. Most of the people that have never travelled to the West think that we dnt have to work or work hard to earn our living. I as a Gambian, born and bred have to explain to some of my family and friends back home , how things work here in Europe. Some would understand others wouldn't but i would have made my point anyway.
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How long shall they kill our prophets
While we stand aside and look -
Some say it's just a part of it
We've got to fullfill the book - BOB MARLEY |
Edited by - dylanGER on 04 Nov 2008 20:45:45 |
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