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mansasulu



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Posted - 04 Jun 2008 :  16:21:59  Show Profile Send mansasulu a Private Message
Turk, when Abu Bakr (R.A) was Kalifa, Khalid bin Walid (R.A) once wrote to him about a man who committed homosexuality. He gathered the Sahabi and asked their opinion concerning this matter and Ali made the following statement which was unanimously agreed by all the companions:

"Only one nation disobeyed Allah by committing such sin and you know how Allah dealt with them. I see that we should burn the man with fire."

This incident was reported in numerous sources among them 'Fat-h al-Qadir' by Ibn al-Humam and one of Al Bayhaqi's works, 'Shu`ab al-Iman'.

There is also a hadith narated by Abdullah ibn Abbas in Sunan Abu Dawud (Kitab ul Hudud) that the Prophet (SAW) said: If you find anyone doing as Lot's people did, kill the one who does it, and the one to whom it is done.


"...Verily, in the remembrance of Allâh do hearts find rest..." Sura Al-Rad (Chapter 13, Verse 28)

...Gambian by birth, Muslim by the grace of Allah...
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toubab1020



12314 Posts

Posted - 04 Jun 2008 :  18:27:48  Show Profile Send toubab1020 a Private Message
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Originally posted by toubab1020

Has IT started now? maybe!
Gambia News : Two Alleged Homosexuals Arrested

Full story:http://www.gambianow.com/news/News/Two-Alleged-Homosexuals-Arrested

Snippet.

The police last Friday arrested two men believed to be homosexuals, this paper has been reliably informed. The two are reported to be Spanish nationals.
Pere Joan, 56, and Juan Monpserratrusau, 54, held at Kotu police station, allegedly approached two taxi drivers (names withheld) and made proposals to them.

Our sources said the drivers acted quickly but secretly by immediately alerting the police, while putting up a show of interest in the advances of the culprits who were lured to a rendezvous in Manjai, where they were subsequently arrested.




They appear in court today.

http://observer.gm/africa/gambia/article/2008/6/4/spanish-gays-charged-appear-in-court-today


"Simple is good" & I strongly dislike politics. You cannot defend the indefensible.
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toubab1020



12314 Posts

Posted - 05 Jun 2008 :  14:05:24  Show Profile Send toubab1020 a Private Message
http://thepoint.gm/africa/gambia/article/2008/6/5/alleged-homosexuals-leave-the-gambia

According to the Point,
Alleged Homosexuals Leave The Gambia
africa » gambia Thursday, June 05, 2008
The two alleged Spanish homosexuals who were arrested last Friday and released on Tuesday left the country on the night of the same day, this paper can reveal.
Pere Joan and Juan Monpserratrusau left the country following their release on Tuesday, contrary to media reports that they are being charged with an attempt to commit “unnatural offence” and were to appear in court yesterday.
They were arrested and detained for nearly four days without charge.

By Abba A.S. Gibba




"Simple is good" & I strongly dislike politics. You cannot defend the indefensible.

Edited by - toubab1020 on 05 Jun 2008 14:08:49
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MeMe



United Kingdom
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Posted - 06 Jun 2008 :  11:00:05  Show Profile Send MeMe a Private Message
The heat in the kitchen got too much for H E so he's having to step back .... and try some damage limitation ... good luck with that, mate
http://www.freedomnewspaper.com/Homepage/tabid/36/mid/367/newsid367/3324/Breaking-News-Mad-Yahya-Jammeh-Denies-Making-Threats-Against-Gays-Foreign-Affairs-Faxes-Freedom/Default.aspx



It is better to die standing than to live on your knees - Ernesto Guevara de la Serna

Edited by - MeMe on 06 Jun 2008 11:06:28
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turk



USA
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Posted - 07 Jun 2008 :  01:24:09  Show Profile  Visit turk's Homepage Send turk a Private Message
mansasulu

As the most extreme punishment of homosexuality. I would seek direct reference from the Quran, rather than judgement reference of abu-bakr. There are several cases that sunnah may not be applied due to validity of the sunnah, in the case of most extreme punishment, death.

diaspora! Too many Chiefs and Very Few Indians.

Halifa Salah: PDOIS is however realistic. It is fully aware that the Gambian voters are yet to reach a level of political consciousness that they rely on to vote on the basis of Principles, policies and programmes and practices.
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