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shaka
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 Posted - 23 May 2008 : 22:11:12
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| Bev the problem is cultural difference. Just three or four decade ago it would not have been unheard of for a western leader to echo a similar sentiment as Jammeh, it took some time for Gays to be accepted in Western societies. The problem is that the Western media at times tries to dictate the pace at which Africans have to accept values that are alien to our culture. This they achieve by lobbying Western politicians to blackmail Africans in the form of economic sanctions into accepting these values. My contention is that Africans should be allowed to dictate the pace they move in accordance with their cultural values. We do no have to accept anything that is tossed at us especially if they come with preconditions or blackmail. So if any onyone is thinking of boycotting Gambia holiday, i say to them we are going to miss you and your million and billions of dollars, see you in year 5065 when Gambia becomes a Gay nation. |
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inez
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Posted - 23 May 2008 : 23:06:07
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You are so right Tamsier, the next group might be the ones wearing jeans, and then rastas,later people who have/had sex before marriage, people who are vain, people who are richer than president...This is grazy because it gives people a veapon to use against their enemies, how can someone protect himself if they are accused of being gay?? Will they have time to do that before they get killed by the mob that might not even know the person?? Is that the kind of society you all want to live in?
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Originally posted by tamsier
I will not name names, but those who agree with this decree will come to regret it when he move on to another group in months/years to come, and them or their families are directly affected. At the moment, it does not affect them so they can use their narrow mindedness in support of this decree, but they will come to regret it in the future. I hope for their sakes, they/their families never go through that. Instead of wising up to the fact that, this man is destroying the Gambia and this is merely the begining, they sat-back and clapped their hands in support of this devil.
Note: It does not matter whether you support homosexuality or not. Think outside the box.
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MADIBA
United Kingdom
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Posted - 23 May 2008 : 23:27:17
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Bro Shaka God Bless you.
I think the West should spare us this hypocrisy. They can pressure their gov'ts, that the business of their gov't and their people. Infact most of these people are irreligious. How would they know that the Gambia is religious country? Christianity is the primary religion of most countries in the west;but most of them go to church on three occasions, WEDDINGS, FUNERAL and CHRISTMAS. And the Bible said the following:
“… the Lord rained upon Sodom and upon Gomorrah… He overthrew those cities…”(Genesis)
All world major religions condemn this practice.
Even if Jammeh is not the west's darling, prior to this homo upheaval, Gambia's bigger neighbour and a better democracy Senegal, chased these people out. Did we hear any condemnation?
The world is going hungry, moreso Africa, how many campaigns for food security have we heard coming from so-called pressure groups? Israel has been and is still wrecking havoc on innocent and defenceless Palestinian Women and Childern. Any noise? No. Except , Bush openly backing these killings, just to hop on the plane next destination Saudi to ask for more Oil.
Have ur homosexuals in ur back yards thats not our problem.What we do in our back yard is NO BODY'S business but ours.
Africa should RISE AND STAND, end this nonsense of blackmail. Africa(Gambia) should be able to depend on other products other than tourism.
Look we are in the 21st century Africa CANNOT BE DICTATED TO.
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shaka
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Posted - 24 May 2008 : 00:01:25
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| True Madiba, they were chased out of Senegal and nobody gives a hoot but as soon as Jammeh opened his mouth, the world and his mother comes raining with their spoons and saucepans. |
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anna
Netherlands
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Posted - 24 May 2008 : 00:12:06
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| Madiba, we are in the 21st century indeed - it cannot be tolerated that governments go back in time and execute human beings in a medieval way because of their sexual preference. |
When an old African dies, it is as if a whole library has burnt down.
Amadou Hampate Ba (Mali) |
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MADIBA
United Kingdom
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Posted - 24 May 2008 : 00:22:15
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Anna, I understand Jammeh's use of beheading as metaphorical, becos as far as i know there is no death penalty for such.
For those living in the UK let them remember the veil issue in England specifically. Is it becos it affects Muslims that's why no human rigths issues were listened to or supported?
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/10/19/AR2006101901601.html
Besides homosexuality is going against nature by all standards. Animals of the lower ranks such as dogs, cats, cattle DO NOT EVEN HAVE GAYS! How can Human Beings of the highest order condone such? If it is mental disorder, with the advancement of science and medicine its remedy is certainly within reach. |
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MeMe
United Kingdom
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Posted - 24 May 2008 : 00:35:20
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YAWN ... how many times do we have to go round and round on this? This posting is about H E Jammeh and his beheading comment not about the intolerance of religion. Do we in the UK threaten to behead anyone with a beard? Anyone wearing hijab? Apples and oranges here.
Did Hitler not start with his rantings againts Jews, got a 'touch of' condemnation from the rest of the world so merrily went on to almost destroy Europe before people woke up? Jammeh might not have the gun in his hand but he's handing the shooters bullets .....
Let's hope it NEVER becomes a case of 'I told you so'!! |
It is better to die standing than to live on your knees - Ernesto Guevara de la Serna |
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fee_sweetie
United Kingdom
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Posted - 24 May 2008 : 00:45:15
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Originally posted by MADIBA
Bro Shaka God Bless you.
I think the West should spare us this hypocrisy.
Ha Hypocrisy- Gambians definately know the meaning of that word!!!!
The Gambian National Anthem :
For The Gambia, our homeland, we strive and work and pray,
That all may live in unity, freedom and peace each day.
Let justice guide our actions towards the common good,
And join our diverse peoples to prove man's brotherhood.
We pledge our firm allegiance, our promise we renew;
Keep us, great God of nations, to The Gambia ever true.
- Adapted from the traditional Mandinka song 'Foday Kaba Dumbuya'
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"Religion is an insult to human dignity. Without it you'd have good people doing good things + evil people doing evil things but for good people to do evil things it takes religion"- Richard Dawkins |
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turk
USA
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Posted - 24 May 2008 : 04:38:53
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huh. Stop scape goating jammeh. most gambian support his ideas. the approval of his policies may be the highest. people deserve the management they got. Mission is being accomplished. Long live the king.
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diaspora! Too many Chiefs and Very Few Indians.
Halifa Salah: PDOIS is however realistic. It is fully aware that the Gambian voters are yet to reach a level of political consciousness that they rely on to vote on the basis of Principles, policies and programmes and practices. |
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shaka
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tamsier
United Kingdom
557 Posts |
Posted - 24 May 2008 : 11:45:58
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Homosexuality do exist in the 'animal kingdom'. They are a minority just as gay people are a minority in the human pieces. To say that homosexuality/gay does not exist in cats, dogs, cattle etc, is totally wrong and unfounded.
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Tamsier
Serere heritage. Serere religion. Serere to the end.
Roog a fa ha. |
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MADIBA
United Kingdom
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Posted - 24 May 2008 : 12:26:01
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Originally posted by tamsier
Homosexuality do exist in the 'animal kingdom'. They are a minority just as gay people are a minority in the human pieces. To say that homosexuality/gay does not exist in cats, dogs, cattle etc, is totally wrong and unfounded.
Maybe on two legs |
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tamsier
United Kingdom
557 Posts |
Posted - 24 May 2008 : 16:15:25
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and on 4 legs.
My next comment is not directed at anyone in particular just a general statement, but from my experience, people who are 'violently' anti gay on most occations are closet gays themselves. As a straight man, what gay people get up to in bed is the least of my worries, therefore, I find it extremely hard to comprehend why other so called straight men dont think like me especially those who use violence against gay people. Even if they come on to you by mistake, a simple, 'I am straight and I am not interested' will suffice. why the violence or remarks? This is beyond my understanding. |
Tamsier
Serere heritage. Serere religion. Serere to the end.
Roog a fa ha. |
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shaka
996 Posts |
Posted - 24 May 2008 : 17:29:32
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"From my experience....."(Tamsier)
Bloody hell!!! You sure do have a lot of experience!! Violent ones and all. Holy Christ!!!! |
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lurker
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Posted - 24 May 2008 : 19:16:47
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mark my words carefully. with the fuel prices and an id*ot president who is damaging the allure of gambia by the minute, this beautiful little country is already halfway down the global toilet.
i am sorry if that hurts, but this is very serious and this moron in charge is pulling the chain while those who suffer will later wonder where it all went wrong.
the darkest days are upon gambia, but few realise or want to accept. something has to be done...soon, before 25 yrs of reasonable stability is washed away for generations.
he is a one-man wrecking crew.
sorry........... |
Edited by - lurker on 24 May 2008 19:17:54 |
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