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Janko
Gambia
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 Posted - 12 May 2008 : 22:56:28
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turk,
Your statement in itself is not encouraging rather an agitation to suicide.
I would have taken you seriously if your critic was elaborative and has at the least some proposals for betterment.
You are right in a way; Gambians should learn that hospitality can sometimes be understood as foolish and dumbfounded especially towards someone they don’t share the same cultural values with. Your “Collective suicide” analogy is not only a generalisation but also shows your “appreciation” of Gambia and Gambian hospitality.
You most have failed to notice the wave of western scientists invading traditional medicine in their quest for a quicker commercially viable result in their modern laboratories. Culture and traditions is more than FGM and traditional medicine, it is also how you meet people, receive them, talk, reason, share with them, make them yourself and so fort.
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turk
USA
3356 Posts |
Posted - 12 May 2008 : 23:32:32
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Hospitality? Collective suicide? What are you talking about? Sorry I didn't get your point.
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diaspora! Too many Chiefs and Very Few Indians.
Halifa Salah: PDOIS is however realistic. It is fully aware that the Gambian voters are yet to reach a level of political consciousness that they rely on to vote on the basis of Principles, policies and programmes and practices. |
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Janko
Gambia
1267 Posts |
Posted - 13 May 2008 : 00:00:27
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WELL,Sorry
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turk
USA
3356 Posts |
Posted - 13 May 2008 : 01:34:15
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Sorry for having pessimistic view.
Oh yeah. Most western scientists are learning from Gambian style HIV medication, or they recommend their patients some holy texted water. Can't you see my point, many Gambians are not only INACIVE to take action on problems, mostly RESIST advancement/improvement, worse they DEFEND things like HIV medication, political situation, FGM in this century... Who says I do not have a proposal for betterment: stop the collective suicide.
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diaspora! Too many Chiefs and Very Few Indians.
Halifa Salah: PDOIS is however realistic. It is fully aware that the Gambian voters are yet to reach a level of political consciousness that they rely on to vote on the basis of Principles, policies and programmes and practices. |
Edited by - turk on 13 May 2008 03:23:50 |
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toubab1020
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Posted - 13 May 2008 : 01:39:22
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| Neither do I Janko, please elaborate to extend that which you see as a valid point I am a little confused as to what you are trying to say,I will not formulate my opinion until you have clarified your posting otherwise I may be making a serious error. |
"Simple is good" & I strongly dislike politics. You cannot defend the indefensible.
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Janko
Gambia
1267 Posts |
Posted - 13 May 2008 : 13:29:53
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| Sorry for being cryptic, secondly English is not my language, just trying. What is it that you do not understand? |
Clean your house before pointing a finger ... Never be moved by delirious Well-wishers in their ecstasy |
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toubab1020
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Posted - 13 May 2008 : 16:16:05
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Your English is just too perfect and would easily be able to be understood by lawyers and politicians,however I am neither, please post your response to turk in plan English that can be understood by normal people as I am very confused by you posting, as is turk,thats all I can say as I do not understand the meaning of your response at all.
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"Simple is good" & I strongly dislike politics. You cannot defend the indefensible.
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turk
USA
3356 Posts |
Posted - 14 May 2008 : 02:01:56
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| can you clarify hospitality point? How is it related to our debate? |
diaspora! Too many Chiefs and Very Few Indians.
Halifa Salah: PDOIS is however realistic. It is fully aware that the Gambian voters are yet to reach a level of political consciousness that they rely on to vote on the basis of Principles, policies and programmes and practices. |
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Janko
Gambia
1267 Posts |
Posted - 14 May 2008 : 16:20:48
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I disagree with the metaphor of “collective suicide” used to describe the faith of Gambia. Especially not from someone who would only return there (Gambia) for holidays/visiting family. How real is such a person’s advice or critic?
The explanations given as to Gambia committing collective suicide are;
• the economic situation
• no Rule of Law
• not resisting the politics and yet defending some traditional practices like FGM and the HIV-cure
There have been and are many discussions here and elsewhere regarding how Gambians feel and think about the economic situation, FGM, the HIV-cure and the rule of law.
The analogy is not only off-putting but irritated and untroubled and a display of a defiant and offensive attitude to Gambia and its people. That’s why I said Gambians have to be mindful of their generosity, especially towards those who do not share their cultural values, for their generosity could be deduced as foolish and dumbfounded.
My questions to turk are;
Have you been disrespected in the Gambia?
Are the people you met not mannered and welcoming?
Have you had a work permit and paid tax at any given time (ex. when you worked for the construction company)?
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toubab1020
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Posted - 14 May 2008 : 16:48:49
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| Thanks Janko, I can understand that. |
"Simple is good" & I strongly dislike politics. You cannot defend the indefensible.
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turk
USA
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Posted - 14 May 2008 : 23:07:58
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Huh. I can't provide my opinion/critic, because I am visiting? Why is it offensive to Gambia? It may be pessimistic, but how is it offensive? And it has nothing to do with hospitality? Are you saying gambians should not be hospitable people who provide pessimistic critics?
To answer your questions.
Yes I have.
As every other nation in the world, some not mannered and welcoming some mannered and welcoming.
What construction company? I finance/built toilet and bathroom for my in laws.
What is your point with these questions? |
diaspora! Too many Chiefs and Very Few Indians.
Halifa Salah: PDOIS is however realistic. It is fully aware that the Gambian voters are yet to reach a level of political consciousness that they rely on to vote on the basis of Principles, policies and programmes and practices. |
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toubab1020
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Posted - 15 May 2008 : 13:14:29
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Oh dear turk,so your construction company went down the pan with just one job,sorry about that.
(what I have written above is a humorous response,a joke,if you cannot understand the meaning I am sorry,if you can then great,the comment is not a serious observation, I thought I just better clarify that! |
"Simple is good" & I strongly dislike politics. You cannot defend the indefensible.
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turk
USA
3356 Posts |
Posted - 15 May 2008 : 22:37:46
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| i capish. :=) |
diaspora! Too many Chiefs and Very Few Indians.
Halifa Salah: PDOIS is however realistic. It is fully aware that the Gambian voters are yet to reach a level of political consciousness that they rely on to vote on the basis of Principles, policies and programmes and practices. |
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toubab1020
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Posted - 15 May 2008 : 23:35:54
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quote:
Originally posted by turk
i capish. :=)
That's OK then. |
"Simple is good" & I strongly dislike politics. You cannot defend the indefensible.
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turk
USA
3356 Posts |
Posted - 16 May 2008 : 01:51:46
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toubab
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I thought I just better clarify that!
Are you afraid of me? lol |
diaspora! Too many Chiefs and Very Few Indians.
Halifa Salah: PDOIS is however realistic. It is fully aware that the Gambian voters are yet to reach a level of political consciousness that they rely on to vote on the basis of Principles, policies and programmes and practices. |
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