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kobo
United Kingdom
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 Posted - 12 Apr 2008 : 23:31:32
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Dalton 1, don't you think that WE SHOULD CAMPAIGN TO MOBILIZE RESOURCES & SPONSORS UNDER AUSPICES OF SAVE THE GAMMBIA DEMOCRACY PROJECT OPEN INVITATIONS TO THREE KEY OPPOSITION PARTY LEADERS ON TWO OR THREE DAYS RE-UNION FORUM FOR A UNITED NATIONAL FRONT & A FORMAL DIALOGUE ON RECONCILIATION & CONSIDERATION OF NEW RESOLUTIONS ON THE WAY FORWARD UNDER ONE BANNER.
WITHIN NEXT THREE MONTHS, lets table what we can do to mobilize the RESOURCES AND FORMALLY LAUNCH THE PLATFORM & INVITE KEY OPPOSITION PARTY LEADERS & PARTICIPANTS FOR SERIOUS DIALOGUE   Time is running out for 2011 General elections!
Lets RE-VITALIZED, ENLIVEN OUR SPIRITS & HOPES FOR CHANGE & VICTORY!
Proposed THEME (AS ABOVE!):
RE-UNION FORUM FOR A UNITED NATIONAL FRONT - A FORMAL DIALOGUE ON RECONCILIATION & CONSIDERATION OF NEW RESOLUTIONS ON THE WAY FORWARD UNDER ONE BANNER |
Edited by - kobo on 12 Apr 2008 23:37:18 |
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Dalton1
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Posted - 13 Apr 2008 : 05:34:40
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quote:
Originally posted by kobo
Proposed THEME (AS ABOVE!):
RE-UNION FORUM FOR A UNITED NATIONAL FRONT - A FORMAL DIALOGUE ON RECONCILIATION & CONSIDERATION OF NEW RESOLUTIONS ON THE WAY FORWARD UNDER ONE BANNER
Bro Kobo,
It sounds like a plan. Count me always as an associate to promote such agendas -far & near.
Here is where we are: Any entity to try to bring the oppositions must be able to bring together diaspora surrogates first together. This nut is hard to crack based on the history of bridge collapse witnessed already.
In all honesty, lets 'make hay while sun shines.' The time is now. We cannot wait till the last minute and start on it.
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"There is no god but Allah (SWT); and Muhammad (SAW)is His last messenger." shahadah. Fear & Worship Allah (SWT) Alone! (:
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dbaldeh
USA
934 Posts |
Posted - 13 Apr 2008 : 08:34:16
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Nyarikangbanna good to see you weighing in. This may look like a fairytale, but those who think things will automatically happen for themselves and just one day all our problems will be taking care of and we will have the president and party we want in power.
As the Chinese saying goes "Those who think it cannot be done should not stop those willing to do it" Exploring the best of ideas from each and everyone of us can lead us to that dream that we all have as Gambians.
At the very least we should be confident in our intellectual abilities to put our difference aside and work towards a great lasting change.
We have tried once and we failed, we should learn from our lessons and get right back up for a better results.
I still wish our people can overcome fairytale or not? And "yes we can too"
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Baldeh,
"Be the change you want to see in the world" Ghandi
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Nyarikangbanna
United Kingdom
1382 Posts |
Posted - 13 Apr 2008 : 20:03:26
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Hello Baldeh!
Nobody is suggesting that a call for unity is a fairytale but that the kind of unity that is been called for by whoever insuniated that April Fool Prank is a fairytale. If You really want unity, then call your Ayatollah and ask him to join the UDP-led coalition instead of talking like if you are preaching gospel. You need to start thinking for yourself rather than believing that Ayatollah Halifa Sallah is God destined to think for you, **** head!
No one is stopping you from doing whatever you want to do. You can do whatever you like including fantasising about bringing the whole world under NADD Coalition or trying to think that you can lure people towards your Ayatollah's agenda when in fact your Ayatollah have said he would never embrace anybody's agenda. That ain't my problem. My task is to invest my energy into a more realistic option and it doesn't matter if you try to stop that because you can't.
I do not oppose unity but I oppose damn union.
Thanks
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Edited by - Nyarikangbanna on 13 Apr 2008 20:42:38 |
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Dalton1
3485 Posts |
Posted - 13 Apr 2008 : 23:00:32
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Mawdo Demba,
Thanks a lot!
From my part, I long since concurred with Shaka. You cannot help that someone lacks sense of humor. The renowned clown, self-proclaimed surrogate and a potty head twister of facts doesn't represent none of his party motto. In the past, I talked to people like Karamba, Ebrima Dibba and Saihou Mballow -those are among the ones that reason with the UDP. To the clown's surprise and continuous bitterness, even Lawyer Ousanou Darboe who I spoke with at the time endorsed the idea of unity. This is someone I even met in the past, captured his way of thinking. Not to talk of Ebrima Dibba who whole-heartedly sacrificed his own resources towards it, as well as Saihou Mballow. I thought for the records, I can at once address this issue which is why over time I refused to be embedded in the false bickering, and lacking in spirit of unity from a lost clown, not heading to sensitivity of wisdom rays. If he represents himself, please accept his opinion, as it very well helps to show the way that he thinks. This is a nut hard to crack. That's why people like you are here to educate us and engage in fruitful discussions. It is as well a known fact that he lives in a fool's world, not an iota of truth of your principled nature, a man so dearly in love with our Gambia. Over time, I avoided threads like this, not to be seen as an associate praise-singing his mate -you.
He can as well expose himself to reveal to this forum his apology to Ebrima Dibba, whose character he attacked here shamelessly at some point, not knowing the man is closest to Darboe than any, if not for the likes of Karamba and Saihou Mballow.
Further, it is clear that he is fighting some inferior complexity. To that I say, let him heal him self. This is a small Gambia where everyone knows the other, or at least a family member. To the man -Hon. Sallah, whom he so bitterly despised, that again showed his lacking in appreciation and ungratefulness, time and again. He've been caught flip-flopping on controversial and non-substantiated statements in the past, the kind that cannot come from a sane man, but of mere hate resembling a seasoned crack-head.
When unity and reconciliation is aimed at, there have to be a compromise level for it to materialize. That's why I wonder about the pages of the books that the lad is flipping over. C'amm!!
If the genuine Gambians like Ebrima Dibba, Karamba and the others, who so well engage in mature dialogue and support worthy unity calls, who else will be the knuckle-head, soon to drown in shame, to give a bad taste to the simple call of unity. That shows his level of 'comprehension', even humor they cannot grasp. I thought in my humor sharing with Kanibaa who pointed to the virtue and jubilated the April fool piece with great reception, dancing to fidles and bukarabu, I addressed the poor lad also thinking he will get the message at once. "khunyila bagjut fuhkof. Kuukila yola zingzim. eh nyamatei ohmei ka'luupo. "
Lastly, over the humor piece, he have a choice to thread on something different. If he chooses to get dirty, that's what he will get. He is not holding a license to misconstue others' postings here. As well, he doesn't have a mouth more sour. The limits of tolerance and acceptance stops where the one on the offensive is in self-denial and constantly in motive to belabor without true conscience, or at least ill-spirited. That's the reality check that the poor lad needs. The beast is a human pest that need a smack on his mouth to peel off his aggression and anger. May be someone else can put some candor in his head.
Enough of you!! Enough of your poor comprehension!!
Further, In hal pular, thus: "To avoid being tainted with fart, don't ever wrestle with a stinky fart."
Dalton. |
"There is no god but Allah (SWT); and Muhammad (SAW)is His last messenger." shahadah. Fear & Worship Allah (SWT) Alone! (:
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dbaldeh
USA
934 Posts |
Posted - 14 Apr 2008 : 05:06:16
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Nyari...., your posting is very revealing of the kind of hostage you are held within yourself. Your bitterness is eating your flesh up and time and again you come out more destructive to yourself than ever before.
Am sure even your own UDP people has disowned you and the kind of mannerism you manifest time again. You kind of self hate and lack of moral values has isolated you to a dangerous level.
How comes you cannot even understand when people are trying to be civil and treat you with decency and respect not because of your personality but simply as a human being?
Are you serious that you expect people to strip themselves nicked and go that low to respond to your self destructive language?
Are you worth engaging at all? I don't know what kind of social upbringing did you have? or what is really going on in your life? Your mind and mannerism is worth a scientific study because I think I detect some mood swings that is a sign of a bipolar disorder.
I think people reading this forum that are close to you or atleast knows you should be careful and if there are any minors around you they should take note of your behavior. You are showing dangerous signs of lost soul and can do harm to others anytime.
This is not only hatred but also something deeper....
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Baldeh,
"Be the change you want to see in the world" Ghandi
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Nyarikangbanna
United Kingdom
1382 Posts |
Posted - 14 Apr 2008 : 18:43:44
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I have always said I always speak for myself but you can take any thing I said here to the bank. I have no association with the people quoted above by Dalton and none of them can claim to have known me personally apart from Saihou and even that is only to some extent. He would never claim he has spoken to me on the phone or has my number. So you can make your fictions or allow Dalton to make them for you, and then draw your own fictitious conclusions. That doesn't bother me. I do not need UDP barons to recognize my support. My Patriotisms is the only compelling factor.
You can also imply that I am in trouble with myself. Again, that too does not bother me.
As regarding my views on the subject, again no regret about anything I said as they represent the truth. Nobody said unity is not good and I did not say am against unity. But I am against your type of unity.
Can I also remind you that there is nothing between us to be civil or rough about. You support your agenda and I support mine. That is what democracy is all about. If you can't come to my show, don't expect me to embrace yours, period!
Dalton, you haven't done enough here, have you. Next time you need to get Ousainu Darboe himself to condemn me. That won't bother me either. As long as you continue to play a double sword game, a Ayatollah Sallah surrogate and a UGAMA facilitator my words will always furustrate you. And I can tell you, you haven't seen enough of them yet. This is all about suppressing dissent. isn't it? Do you think you are winning this war? You bet not. Demeaning my person is the only thing you've now got left in your arsenal. That is good news for me because I hardly care about personal attacks. I know how to handle that. You just go on claiming to know something that nobody knows. Time will tell!
Gambians will not be deceived by an eloquent but disingenuous call for unity.
Rest my case
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Edited by - Nyarikangbanna on 14 Apr 2008 20:08:21 |
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kobo
United Kingdom
7765 Posts |
Posted - 14 Apr 2008 : 20:51:06
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Comrades don't be bothered by da-tractors & those bent on UNDER-MINING OUR EFFORTS TO SET THE UNITY AGENDA ON COURSE FOR THOSE IN THE POLITICAL BATTLE AGAINST CURRENT REGIME, BITTER/HARSH ECONOMIC & UN-DEMOCRATIC CONDITIONS THAT FACED OUR NAION!,.The EGOES, ARROGANCE, BAD ATTITUDES, HATRED, PERSONAL ATTACKS, BIKKERING & SMEARING AIN'T GONNA TAKE US NOWHERE
On my part, its a NATIONAL DUTY TO SUPPORT ALL OUR DEMOCRATS and would call on VOLUNTEERS & SO-CALLED PATRIOTStake up the challenge to FORWARD ANY SOUND PROPOSALS TO SAVE THE GAMBIA DEMOCRACY PROJECT. Dalton 1 & STGDP, "WE SUPPORT YOU AND BEHIND YOU 100% TO SET THE PLATFORM FOR DIALOGUE ON UNITY & THE WAY FORWARD!"
I've started COMPILATION OF A STRATEGIC PLAN & DESIGNING A GOOD NET-WORKING SYSTEM TO HARMONIZE COMMUNICATION, PROTOCOLS & PROMOTION OF UNITY TOWARDS THE COMMON GOOD!
TARGETED DEMOCRATS!
1) ALL OPPOSTION PARTIES & INDIVIDUALS ON CIVIL ACTIVITIES AGAINST CURRENT REGIME.
2) INDEPENDENT CANDIDATES.
3) ALL GAMBIAN ON-LINE WEBSITES ON HOT GAMBIAN POLITICAL DEBATES.
4) THOSE AT HOME & ABROAD.
Stay tune for LAUNCHING OF A VIABLE PROGRAM; TO MOBILZE RESOURCES & COORDINATE ACTIVITIES FOR THE GAMBIA OUR HOMELAND! THAT ALL MAY LIVE IN UNITY, FREEDOM & PEACE EACH DAY! AND JOIN OUR DIVERSE PEOPLE!..........TOWARDS THE COMMON GOOD!.
The New Dawn is a REALITY & NOT A FAIRYTALE!
Believe it! YES WE CAN!
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dbaldeh
USA
934 Posts |
Posted - 14 Apr 2008 : 22:44:22
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Brother kobo echo your call high and loud. Only the disingenuous and vagabond like Nyarikang with disorderly conduct can distant themselves away from a call to unity.
It has long been realized that people in his cult like minded ideas cannot function under a genuine association.
It is becoming clear by the day that he absolutely has no associates and role to play except to bark his guts off with empty rhetoric. When every Gambian is seriously thinking how to overcome our difference and rally the troops against the status quo, this irrelevant dud continue to sound disgusting by the minute.
Am glad he has made it clear that he has no associates or worst even no one knows him. No wonder he is so lonely and desperate for a group to associate with. Am sure Darboe will easily dump such an arrogant kid without identity.
Watch little fellow, unity will prevail either you like it or not. Then you can blow your head off anger...
I guess we can now safely say these were the like kind in the UDP camp who were in bed with Waa Juwara until he broke away.
Unity is a must and we shall overcome hatred. |
Baldeh,
"Be the change you want to see in the world" Ghandi
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Nyarikangbanna
United Kingdom
1382 Posts |
Posted - 15 Apr 2008 : 19:55:12
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Originally posted by dbaldeh
It is becoming clear by the day that he absolutely has no associates and role to play except to bark his guts off with empty rhetoric. When every Gambian is seriously thinking how to overcome our difference and rally the troops against the status quo, this irrelevant dud continue to sound disgusting by the minute.
Am glad he has made it clear that he has no associates or worst even no one knows him. No wonder he is so lonely and desperate for a group to associate with. Am sure Darboe will easily dump such an arrogant kid without identity.
What a fool! You think I will come here to talk about my associates or possible links? All I have said is that I am not associated with any of the guys quoted by Dalton except Saihou in our own ways, and that I always speak for myself. I have said that ever since I joined this forum. But judging by what I have been saying since the events leading to the last presidential election and what then happened in reality since then , only a fool like you will not take reason from my words. You got to remember, we were all born in the Gambia, and it is a very small country. I am not here to take pride of my links or associates. That is not my thing. I wonder why you lot find it necessary to establish my links. Links are of no importance here. It is the facts that is being presented to your distaste.
Here are the issues; You guys called for a unity that mirrors what Halifa Sallah has been defiantly calling for since September 2006 in furtherance to his delusion that joining the UDP led alliance amounts to helping its leaders to become elites. You then form an association called UGAMA, filled it with Sallah surrogates and disciples and the likes of Dr Abdoulie Saine who openly displayed contempt for the UDP on numerous occasions, and then you still advocated for that type of unity that hasn't work before and thus, outrightly rejected by the two main opposition parties [UDP and NRP] just because that is what Halifa called for. You people need reality check. The so-called UGAMA facilitators are just a bunch of Charlatan, charades and political counterfeits. As Ebrima conteh once suggested here, we need honest brokers for this job. We know what the likes of Dalton have implied here before.
Nobody in his right mine would say he is anti unity and I did not say I am. What I am opposed to and have always opposed is damn union, a union based on disinguinity because it doesn't work and have failed us before. It won't be a 'Deja Vous' all over again this time around. If you guys think your brand of unity is an irresistible one, why then haven't you wrapped this up by now? It's being long time since you form that UGAMA [approaching 2yrs now] but what have you achieved? Well, according to Dalton's own admission, you haven't even been able to put folks in the US together let alone political parties in the Gambia. I tell you why, it is because your association is stuffed with counterfeits and grotesque Halifa Sallah political surrogates. Give way to honest brokers. I have no doubt that the likes of Ebrima Conteh can do a great job if teamed up with good people.
I suppose there is no point talking about this now. This debate will unfold at the right time one day and all the different positions will be made clear, and I bet you will be gobsmacked. No doubt about that. You said unity will prevail. I agree with that but it won't be your type of unity and that is whether Halifa Sallah likes it or not.
'Gambian would not be deceived by an eloquent but disingenuous call for unity'.
Thanks
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Edited by - Nyarikangbanna on 15 Apr 2008 20:59:08 |
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dbaldeh
USA
934 Posts |
Posted - 16 Apr 2008 : 08:31:52
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Unity without concession is the kind of damn union you anticipated the last time around. If you have no associates then you are not worth engaging as you are just venting the fire burning in your guts.
The word Patriotism associated with you? You must be kidding.... Not even kindergaten kids can you convince that you are patriotic to what nation? May be to the UDP which I think is quite different from Gambia.
Bitterness takes a toll on a soul and as a result you cannot move beyond what has happened. The self proclaimed statistician and self appointed spoke person of the UDP is now left alone in the gutters.
A man without association is nothing more than a beast in the jungle. Gambia will ever be doomed if it has to rely on patriots like Nyarikang whose cowardice will not let him reveal his identity.
Gambia and Gambians must prevail with or without people like you. As you are not even willing to sacrifice a dime for your own people simply because of an empty brain.
There are truly dead people working alive. As Dr. king said" If a man can't find something to die for, then he ain't worth living |
Baldeh,
"Be the change you want to see in the world" Ghandi
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kayjatta
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Posted - 16 Apr 2008 : 08:43:28
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dbaldeh
USA
934 Posts |
Posted - 16 Apr 2008 : 22:42:14
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Kayjatta, I guess the different here means "Unity" is to put our difference aside and move towards the general interest of our nation versus "Union" as used by Nyarikang... join my group as I am the so called largest regardless of principle and once I get what I want then damn with the Union.
Gambian elites cannot be taken on a ride anymore even if it means trying over and over again. Any union has to be base on sound principles and the best interest of our nation. Unity cannot be achieve without sound strategic principles and policies.
Only an ill informed population will rally behind a party without clear spelling of objectives that defines not just the short term goals but also how we move ahead once we achieve our initial goals. There is too much stake to simply accept "trust me until I get there"
As far as I am concern, I am ready to do anything I can to support a union base on principle and mutual interest of our people. I must however, say that there cannot be any deception on ill intentions that I will be silenced about. I don't care if it is Halifa or Darboe or Bah or even Jammeh, I must call it the way I see it regardless.
The days of entitlements in Gambian politics is no more. We must all explicitly put our agendas forward to digestion period...
That is my take....what do you read into the debate??? |
Baldeh,
"Be the change you want to see in the world" Ghandi
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Nyarikangbanna
United Kingdom
1382 Posts |
Posted - 17 Apr 2008 : 23:33:18
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Dalton's frustration has now become quite uncontainable for him and I am having a good time here laughing about it all. The pettiness has also become extraordinary. I suppose that is a matter for him to live with if not die with but let me just recall one of his previous veil rants. He said he spoke to Ousainu Darboe and that the later endorsed his unity call. But the last time I checked Darboe's interview on senegambianews.com, he described those leading the call in the Diaspora [UGAMA]as 'not genuine’. Not my word! I wonder where that leaves Dalton and his credibility. Again, a matter for him to sort out. In any case, I will continue to state the fact as bluntly as I always do even if that means him [Dalton ]blowing himself up and I will not be distracted by his pettiness. And for everybody's information, he now wants to talk to me on the phone because he is still paranoid about my associates and possible links. Well, I got a lot of valuable calls to return and frankly I am not interested in talking to a Kuulongbaloow on the phone.
As for Baldeh, you are just a fool. One thing no one can make you understand is this; in politics, majority means legitimacy. That is all I have for you. I know you won't comphrehend it but at least it can fire up your frustration to my delight.
I think the difference between being blunt with facts and spreading anti-unity sentiments would become clearer when the chickens have started coming home to roast.
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Edited by - Nyarikangbanna on 17 Apr 2008 23:51:58 |
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kobo
United Kingdom
7765 Posts |
Posted - 17 Apr 2008 : 23:56:04
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LETS PROMOTE UNITY AND SET THE PLATFORM FOR DIALOGUE AND NOT PRE-EMPT THE SITUATION WITH MAJORITY, PENDING & ALL STALMATE ISSUES.
COMRADES! THOSE SOWING SEEDS OF DISCORD MUST BE IGNORED FOR PROGRESS
WISE WORDS (courtesy of Santafara!); Lets stop the "bekering and futile merry go round?"
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Edited by - kobo on 18 Apr 2008 00:02:15 |
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