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Janko

Gambia
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Posted - 06 Apr 2008 :  14:31:42  Show Profile  Visit Janko's Homepage Send Janko a Private Message
dbaldeh,
thanks for the outline
Am sure we would all learn from (the)"Treatise for Founding a Federation of African Republics". Whatever that is demands reading the book.


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kobo



United Kingdom
7765 Posts

Posted - 06 Apr 2008 :  14:55:34  Show Profile Send kobo a Private Message
Janko, hope that dBaldeh have tackled what you looking from these quotes; "The above is what I could get from the reference you gave.
You mean it explains the title of the book…...is it.

I´ll buy the book.
Would you kindly give us a little more flesh on the bone? It could enhance buyer interest…..don’t you think."
END OF QUOTE!

However for benefit of some readers, the KEY WORD TITLE reference and DICTIONARY MEANING ON "TREATISE" reflects on HALIFA'S WELL THOUGHT PLAN ON AUTHORITATIVE EXPERIMENTAL METHODS to TACKLE THIS GREAT BOOK FOR ALL GENERATIONS OF AFRICA .

A Dictionary meaning of the KEY WORD "TREATISE"= A formal essay in which a subject is treated systematically.

Courtesy of Wikipedia on Noteworthy treatises under http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treatise

Thanks dBaldeh for REVIEW & COMMENTS! NOTHING IS WRONG IN IT

Edited by - kobo on 06 Apr 2008 15:01:53
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Janko

Gambia
1267 Posts

Posted - 06 Apr 2008 :  16:10:19  Show Profile  Visit Janko's Homepage Send Janko a Private Message
Thanks Kobo

Yes, together with your reference link, I got a hint of the intention of the book as implied by its title, thanks.

A formal essay, systematically treating the possibility of Founding a Federation of African Republics invites discursions on many levels. I look forward to such a fruitful discussion.

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tamsier



United Kingdom
557 Posts

Posted - 07 Apr 2008 :  17:42:46  Show Profile

Brikima,I would like to know what 'husband's rights to his wife' you are talking about. Do you think that women are cattle or slaves? As a man, I find this highly offensive, egotistical and extremely sexist. I hope deep down you dont think like that.

Tamsier

Serere heritage. Serere religion. Serere to the end.

Roog a fa ha.

Edited by - tamsier on 07 Apr 2008 17:52:33
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Janko

Gambia
1267 Posts

Posted - 28 Apr 2008 :  11:47:32  Show Profile  Visit Janko's Homepage Send Janko a Private Message
A very ambitious undertaking by Mr. Sallah. Thanks!

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shaka



996 Posts

Posted - 29 Apr 2008 :  22:55:12  Show Profile Send shaka a Private Message
Why "very ambitious" if i may inquire?
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Janko

Gambia
1267 Posts

Posted - 30 Apr 2008 :  09:35:49  Show Profile  Visit Janko's Homepage Send Janko a Private Message
My perceptive

Ambitious/grand:

Mr. Sallah wrote;

"This treatise is aimed at addressing Lumumba´s call for Africans to write their own history.
As the curtain closes it has dawned on me that that part of history which can be recalled by words is written."/---/[p.206]

What say you, after reading the "book"?

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shaka



996 Posts

Posted - 30 Apr 2008 :  14:34:17  Show Profile Send shaka a Private Message
I would hesitate to use the word ambitious in the context you did but then that is just me. I am yet read Mr Sallah's book but i hope to make an order for two soon, one for my friend Nyari and one for myself.
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Janko

Gambia
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Posted - 30 Apr 2008 :  15:36:18  Show Profile  Visit Janko's Homepage Send Janko a Private Message
MMMMMMMMM......
Why would you hesitate to use the term,"ambitious"?(..in the context)

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shaka



996 Posts

Posted - 30 Apr 2008 :  18:09:03  Show Profile Send shaka a Private Message
Ambitious in that context sounds like Mr Sallah's work(writing that book) is beyond your expectation of him or he had ventured into the untested or unknown. Now anyone who knew him will tell you that he dedicated most of his adult life to the Pan-African struggle therefore this book came as no surprise to me. Now enough said before Nyari launches a bazooka.
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Janko

Gambia
1267 Posts

Posted - 30 Apr 2008 :  19:02:58  Show Profile  Visit Janko's Homepage Send Janko a Private Message
Point taken.
Thank you for calling my attention to that connotation.

My connotation of “ambitious” in the context refers to the massiveness and complexity of the issue taken up in the book.

I recommend it to all inquisitive individuals; because it is only then that its content could be discussed fruitfully and fairly.

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dbaldeh

USA
934 Posts

Posted - 30 Apr 2008 :  21:04:35  Show Profile  Visit dbaldeh's Homepage Send dbaldeh a Private Message
Shaka, I will also offer a copy of the book to my friend Nyarikang the new Lawyer in British law to read. Sometimes it is actually challenging to read from someone you don't like. The danger though is that you might find yourself agreeing with the person even though you might be in denial because of the hate for him/her.

Anyway, I think Uncle Janko's use of Ambitious is not surprising to me. This notion of us not being able to overcome our own problems is still alive and well. For the rest of the world they can accomplish anything even settling in Mars, but for Africans the bar is always too high for us to measure upto.

I am sure that is not what uncle Janko implies, but sometimes the the common conventional wisdom comes out natural without taught process. Am sure many other people will say the samething, that Halifa is calling for something almost impossible.

I strongly oppose such notion that we cannot accomplish what others are able to accomplish. If they can do it, and it is good for their people, we certainly can do it and it will be good for our people. History will be the judge whether we stand up to the challenges or continue to cast blames and see refuge in their progressive ideas.

Just an observation..


Baldeh,
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Janko

Gambia
1267 Posts

Posted - 30 Apr 2008 :  22:07:55  Show Profile  Visit Janko's Homepage Send Janko a Private Message
“Anyway, I think Uncle Janko's use of Ambitious is not surprising to me. This notion of us not being able to overcome our own problems is still alive and well. For the rest of the world they can accomplish anything even settling in Mars, but for Africans the bar is always too high for us to measure upto.”

Uncle dbaldeh, my connotation has nothing to do with inferiority-/superiority-complex(es) nor “a slip of the tongue,” rather the magnitude of the subject.
Not at all, I am optimistic. Let’s deal with this book and subject as we would with any other and not take an ad hoc stance. Only then would we learn and expand our knowledge and understanding about the subject. The alternative is silence, which does no good to either the book or its topic.

“I recommend it to all inquisitive individuals; because it is only then that its content could be discussed fruitfully and fairly.”


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shaka



996 Posts

Posted - 01 May 2008 :  00:33:00  Show Profile Send shaka a Private Message
I got your drift Janko, the English language could be a bit complex sometimes but who am to mourn, am just a Gambian. Baldeh am sure our Learned Honorable Nyari would appreciate your offer. He is a bit what the Akus call a "book man". He can read two books at the same time. Don't forget to add some fish and chips from his local chippie because the Learned Gentleman love his British food as well. Nyari don't take offense, this is just my British sense of humor.
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dbaldeh

USA
934 Posts

Posted - 01 May 2008 :  00:51:42  Show Profile  Visit dbaldeh's Homepage Send dbaldeh a Private Message
Uncle Janko, I hear you and please don't take offense because I don't mean ever go that route. I understand the magnitude of the task but as I said, if it can be done by others, we can do it as well regardless of the magnitude. Timing is everything and when the time is right no one can stop the wind of change.

I believe all of Africa's problems are magnitude to say the least. Hunger and starvation; genocide, poverty, leadership failures and bone marrow infected corruption. Those problems are magnitude and by default makes every one of our dreams a more daunting task.

Thanks for the optimism and with your history background and knowledge you can help us overcome some daunting obstacles by helping us relate to similar successes and failures. We absolutely value your contributions.

Shaka, I need to get Nyarikang over to the U.S to do some reading, and give him some Bush Coolee but I want to wait until he finishes Halifa's book. I bet you, that will be the hardest argony he will have to ever go through. He will be transformed though once he agree to have an open mind....

Baldeh,
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