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Santanfara



3460 Posts

Posted - 10 Mar 2008 :  23:33:18  Show Profile  Visit Santanfara's Homepage Send Santanfara a Private Message
i couldnt make the halifa sallah book launch. i am curious to know whether the event was grace by many gambians. i also wish to order the book. is it on amazon? and what is the title of the book? the pdois desciples should try to enlighten us on how to get the book as soon as possible. momodou ,any idea on the avalability of the book and at what cost? since i know you are desciple number two of pdois.kobo is desciple number one. dbaldeh may be number four

Surah- Ar-Rum 30-22
"And among His signs is the creation of heavens and the earth, and the difference of your languages and colours. verily, in that are indeed signs for men of sound knowledge." Qu'ran

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Edited by - Santanfara on 10 Mar 2008 23:33:49

Momodou



Denmark
11800 Posts

Posted - 12 Mar 2008 :  15:25:54  Show Profile Send Momodou a Private Message
Santanfara, you can call the phone numbers provided below for the book.

Treatise for Founding a Federation of
African Republics

By Halifa Sallah
Price D200

Available at People’s Centre
Tel: (+220)4373138, (+220)9918216, (+220)7001270

A clear conscience fears no accusation - proverb from Sierra Leone
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Santanfara



3460 Posts

Posted - 13 Mar 2008 :  00:46:40  Show Profile  Visit Santanfara's Homepage Send Santanfara a Private Message
thanks momodou. i will wait untill when it is on amazon. ordering from the gambia may be a bit expensive unless i know of some one coming. thanks any way.

Surah- Ar-Rum 30-22
"And among His signs is the creation of heavens and the earth, and the difference of your languages and colours. verily, in that are indeed signs for men of sound knowledge." Qu'ran

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dbaldeh

USA
934 Posts

Posted - 29 Mar 2008 :  00:36:26  Show Profile  Visit dbaldeh's Homepage Send dbaldeh a Private Message
Santanfa, I don't think it is really appropriate to call people disciple simply because they support a particular party's ideas. People using that term are desperate defenders of their divisive intentions. You seem to be bought by those who were desperate in defending their indefensible act of tearing our nation apart.

So with all due respect you have some ideas that you support either they are social or political. Does that make you a disciple? Would you accept being a disciple of Pa Nderry?

My response here is to draw your attention to destractors from the truth. If you know what PDOIS subscribes to for our nation, you will forget about party affiliation and promote their ideas regardless of whether they ever come to power or not. What is good for our people should stick with us all regardless of who uttered it.

So if being a disciple means love and sacrifice for our Gambia, then you are so right, I am # 1 disciple.

Just a thought....

Baldeh,
"Be the change you want to see in the world" Ghandi
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Santanfara



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Posted - 29 Mar 2008 :  11:35:36  Show Profile  Visit Santanfara's Homepage Send Santanfara a Private Message
demba, i guess you didn't spot the camarade in my write-up. my many family and friedns are all pdois supporters in wulli ,i sat in many pdois discussion forums in sutukonding my good friend. i was only joking. some times ,a light hearted joke make politics interesting. i tell you what, we call sedia who frequent my mum's house a communist. but that is all in the spirit of political jokes.if you must know i am not a udp or nrp supporter .never been to any of their rallies.if some one call pdois folks desciples, that should be taken lightly. i know the pdois stand point very well. i don't aggree with every thing stand for but they have good plans. yes, you can call me a desciple of any one i admired,i will not have any problem with that. i am not an associate of pa nderry.i don't know him ,neither ever saw him, but i wouldn't mind associating with him or any good gambian brother. thanks demba.

Surah- Ar-Rum 30-22
"And among His signs is the creation of heavens and the earth, and the difference of your languages and colours. verily, in that are indeed signs for men of sound knowledge." Qu'ran

www.suntoumana.blogspot.com
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brikama

USA
35 Posts

Posted - 29 Mar 2008 :  12:11:40  Show Profile Send brikama a Private Message
Those types of cheap jokes are probably responsible for the party performance which you have referenced many times. Jawara told Gambians that PDOIS was a communist party and that if they were voted in office, they would abolish property rights and even husband's right to his wife would be taken away. The lie sticks with the party beyong the life of Jawara's government.

Edited by - brikama on 29 Mar 2008 12:13:07
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Karamba



United Kingdom
3820 Posts

Posted - 29 Mar 2008 :  12:56:40  Show Profile Send Karamba a Private Message
PDOIS (DOY) "denu doyadi", meaning not good for purpose, not fit. Such was one foul expression pasted on the face of a party that stood by muscle and words to liberate Gambia from political backwardness. Gambian politics has always known derogative language if that makes a score on opponents. Santafara may be joking but deadly opponents of some parties mean serious business of image distortion. In the process, the entire political process becomes choatic. That has been used before and now continue worst used by the thuggish APRC bnadits in their brutal parade of dirtier politics.

Karamba

Edited by - Karamba on 29 Mar 2008 13:14:48
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brikama

USA
35 Posts

Posted - 29 Mar 2008 :  21:47:37  Show Profile Send brikama a Private Message
Karamba,
I think Santanfara is probably among those peddling derogative language against PDOIS. He has been consistently making bias characterization of PDOIS and the person of Halif Sallah. I don’t think he is joking, instead I think his intention is to defame PDOIS and Halifa. Sometime ago he started a topic here on Halifa and Darboe and his lines of argument points to this conclusion. Last week he started a topic in the Gambia L forum and made unfounded statements about PDOIS. Why can’t we give credit where it is due?
Brikama
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kobo



United Kingdom
7765 Posts

Posted - 29 Mar 2008 :  22:47:03  Show Profile Send kobo a Private Message
LETS STOP PETTINESS, POLITICAL BICKERING, INTELLECTUAL DIS-HONESTY, FAVOURATISM, UNDER-MINING OF EFFORTS & CAMPAIGN FOR LIBERATION, JUSTICE, TRANSPARENCY, ACCOUNTABILITY & EMPOWERMENT

More on WHO IS WHO? refer to related Bantaba topic: who is halifa sallah ? under http://www.gambia.dk/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=4338&whichpage=7

Santanfara hope you already got your copy as ADVERTISED UNDER GAMBIA ECHO FRONTPAGE as follows: Halifa Sallah's Book

Treatise for Founding a Federation of African Republics

By Halifa Sallah

Price D200

Available at People’s Centre

Tel: 4373138, 9918216, and 7001270

Thanks for your COMRADESHIP, RESOURCEFULNESS & DYNAMISM!


Edited by - kobo on 29 Mar 2008 22:48:26
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jambo



3300 Posts

Posted - 31 Mar 2008 :  14:07:50  Show Profile Send jambo a Private Message
if I visit Gambia I would buy this book ,it is not overpriced and the fact that is published and the public domian is a good thing
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Santanfara



3460 Posts

Posted - 31 Mar 2008 :  20:21:15  Show Profile  Visit Santanfara's Homepage Send Santanfara a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by brikama

Karamba,
I think Santanfara is probably among those peddling derogative language against PDOIS. He has been consistently making bias characterization of PDOIS and the person of Halif Sallah. I don’t think he is joking, instead I think his intention is to defame PDOIS and Halifa. Sometime ago he started a topic here on Halifa and Darboe and his lines of argument points to this conclusion. Last week he started a topic in the Gambia L forum and made unfounded statements about PDOIS. Why can’t we give credit where it is due?
Brikama


brikama, please stop the messy politriks.to start with i was never part of the gambian online debating forums when nadd was form, infact i wasn't even aware of any sort of coalition formation untill after it the grouping was disband. secondly, i never made any comment against pdois holy ideas during election nearing times, never. so if you are looking for a culprit ,start the search fresh. i want to carry out a study of pdois's economic policies yet you are calling that ''unfounded comments''. come on mister. for pdois to win th hearts and mind of many ,they must stop assuming the invincibility concept. every idea or concept get scuritinised, that way ,the outsider make a balance and good judegement.but any time some one make a comment about pdois ,the desk officer's or militant start to harang you ,that is a step backward. stop the sensitivity and get to grip with what is important ,which is how to sell the party's message to the gambian people who have been rejecting the party for the past twenty years. you can blame me all you want, that is not the solution. kobo can bold all his patriotic words,that is not the solution for pdois. start engaging with stuborn gambians on the party's way forward and stop the over sensitivity. people will think there is some thing the party is hiding. why are you folks refusing to be disiples of pdois? what is a desciple? is it so bad that you don't like that comment. if i am a pdois supporter i will happily accept the tag desciple.
did any of you folks read the observer editorial on amie sillah.if not read it. the editor call pdois '' a 2% no hoppers''. that is slanderous comment,but still ,the response should positive.

Surah- Ar-Rum 30-22
"And among His signs is the creation of heavens and the earth, and the difference of your languages and colours. verily, in that are indeed signs for men of sound knowledge." Qu'ran

www.suntoumana.blogspot.com
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brikama

USA
35 Posts

Posted - 01 Apr 2008 :  03:02:41  Show Profile Send brikama a Private Message
Santanfara,
I never said you took part in the formation of NADD. I don't care whether or not you played any part in that endeavor. I am just alluding to the manner you treat PDOIS and Halifa Sallah. I think your cheap remarks are uncalled for.
You accuse PDOIS of being too sentivity to scrutiny, forgeting your own sensitivity. Do you forget what you did to Colonel Sarr for his tribal comments. You exploited his mistake and ran him down. I am a mandinka just like you, but I was not offended by his statements because tribe is a non-issue for me.
I think we would serve Gambia better if we represent others the way we want to be represented ourselves. If Mr. Sarr's statements about your tribe could turn you off like it did, then by extension, others have a right to defend their interest in a similar manner. The golden rule should be guide.
Thanks
Brikama

Edited by - brikama on 01 Apr 2008 03:05:28
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Santanfara



3460 Posts

Posted - 01 Apr 2008 :  13:32:44  Show Profile  Visit Santanfara's Homepage Send Santanfara a Private Message
there you go again. keep on talking about irrelevant comments and your attention to make pdois electable will be diverted. the sam sarr issue is a different ball game momane. politics is not about tribal sentitivity or comments. when you intend to back-up a politicain, you have to be ready to be open minded about what non-supporters have to say but not the pdois folks. every body is against them .that is cheap brikama. i careless if you are a fula ,sarahuleh or mandinka. i would have taken on sam or any one if he has lied about manjakous or akus. you keep on the negative verbs. brikama. i don't have time for willy nilly conversation. ask halifa if i had ofended him in any way? then you can give us the feed back. when i started a toipc in gambia l a while ago about why pdois is misunderstoond ,halifa answered some few questions, i wasn't satisfied with some of his answers .he is a politicains, he will always answer questions the way he deemed conveneint.but if you folks keept on believeing that all other non-pdois supporters are devisive and ignorant, well, i am happy of not suporting them.

Surah- Ar-Rum 30-22
"And among His signs is the creation of heavens and the earth, and the difference of your languages and colours. verily, in that are indeed signs for men of sound knowledge." Qu'ran

www.suntoumana.blogspot.com
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dbaldeh

USA
934 Posts

Posted - 01 Apr 2008 :  18:25:52  Show Profile  Visit dbaldeh's Homepage Send dbaldeh a Private Message
Uncle Santa, with all due respect this is where those of us who see light in PDOIS's message differ with some folks who just write because they have access to a computer and forum.

When the plight of our people are at grave end, people joke around with flimsy words trying to discredit people who sacrificed their whole life trying to educate Gambians.

Others like to disagree with people like Halifa because they want to be seen to challenge or test their intellectual IQ. If anyone don't like Halifa or any man that is their beef but if you disagree with the issues then bring them up for debates. All I hear is people trying to discredit the most resourceful in our society with empty rhetoric.

These so called jokes is what brings our nation down. When Jawara made those silly comments about PDOIS it still sticks with the politically ignoramus. He was playing to peoples' minds and checking how unaware our people were.

So please don't reduce the seriousness of debating the issues by trying to joke about issues just to distract.

I can bet uncle Santa you only realized you were joking after we raise eye brows on what you said. If you are being honest with readers here, you were probably even not concious of the fact that using disciples may be offensive to others.

I have previously said I was proud to be associated with progressive ideas regardless of who they come from, but using words to make a statement by implying jokes is distractive and sentimental to say the least.

So please put the issues that you think PDOIS are not good for Gambians here and we will be glad to enlighten the readers on the issues. I think so many people don't have the stomach or mastery to understand what the real issues are affecting our nation. Bring the issues and lets debate.

What say you????

Baldeh,
"Be the change you want to see in the world" Ghandi
Visit http://www.gainako.com for your daily news and politics
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brikama

USA
35 Posts

Posted - 01 Apr 2008 :  21:56:01  Show Profile Send brikama a Private Message
dbaldeh,
Thanks for your remarks.
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MADIBA



United Kingdom
1275 Posts

Posted - 01 Apr 2008 :  22:46:52  Show Profile Send MADIBA a Private Message
Given the present state of the opposition parties in the Gambia, the ONLY people that DESERVE my precious vote are PDOIS.

This is mainly because they have convinced me that they are NOT seasonal politicans and are NOT there to MILK the masses to their death. I remember first attending their meeting in 1987 when i was still in High school. At that gathering 95% where youths like myself, the elderly would just listen, and say, THEY ARE EDUCATED , but laugh it off by adding the Jawara TAG, but they are DOIYADEE.

PDOIS over the years have been practising what they ahve been preaching for over two decades. Besides their MPs i have not heard any MP who set up development funds for their constituents.

They all lead modest lives. All their meetings i have witnessed they ONLY discussed ISSUES no mudslinging.

The biggest burden on the Gambians is INTELLECTUAL DIS-HONESTY. Many educated folks prefer NOT to see the COUNTRY first but themselves.

I said it here before the need to SACRIFICE by HELPING out the VULNERABLE FOLKS who then can SHUN the dirty baits of the politicians. If we EMPOWER these rural folks , then they would 'own' their minds and vote where their interest lies RATHER being coerced.

I suggested INTIATING local projects such as DECENT WATER SUPPLY, ACCESS ROADS, SOCIAL AMENITIES ETC. I have been told of certian projects in some parts of the Gambia where some local INDEPENDENT POLITICIANs intiated some projects single handedly.

I saw these type of projects in neighbouring countries such as SENEGAL. Senegal has a large immigration population and heavily invest in their rural communities in the form of VILLAGE GARDENS for Women, HEALTH FACILITIES, Electrification etc.

Why can't we do the same? If you imagine the rich people that lived in the FAJARA area in the 80s with expensive cars, swam the FILTHY muddy waters in rains everyday. NO DISRESPECT. But they could have intiated self-help projects and improve their locality BUT NO gov't should do that. Ok Gov't should do that thru the local councils. If their own is head of the council, why not remind him of the need of decent roads in the areas they live, before they monies collected ends in the revenue collectors and their bosses?

I will re-iterate it here that i believe the first STEP to reverse the fortune of our people is for us to CHANGE OUR ATTITUDE. ACT MORE DO LITTLE TALK.

Thanks DBaldeh and Brikama for brilliants inputs.

madiss
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