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Alhassan

Sweden
813 Posts

Posted - 13 Sep 2007 :  12:15:16  Show Profile Send Alhassan a Private Message
jambo,
I have nothing against your posting, but how many wants to stay in the Gambia?
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jambo



3300 Posts

Posted - 13 Sep 2007 :  12:35:23  Show Profile Send jambo a Private Message
it was not a matter of staying it is a matter of attitude, if they are willing to give it a go in Gambia after being trained in a skill or helped in a business it shows a certain mindset
how negative to think people do not want to stay, why do you have such thoughts.
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toubab1020



12311 Posts

Posted - 13 Sep 2007 :  13:37:32  Show Profile Send toubab1020 a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by jambo

it was not a matter of staying it is a matter of attitude, if they are willing to give it a go in Gambia after being trained in a skill or helped in a business it shows a certain mindset
how negative to think people do not want to stay, why do you have such thoughts.



Well said.

"Simple is good" & I strongly dislike politics. You cannot defend the indefensible.
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Sibo



Denmark
231 Posts

Posted - 13 Sep 2007 :  13:39:43  Show Profile Send Sibo a Private Message
IŽll have to agree with Jambo that if people have an oppotunity to stay in gambia and be able to support their families at the same time, they will.
I know that I would love to live in gambia if my parents did not bring me to denmark or if I have the opportunity to get the type of education I want and my parents can afford it. Many gambians are livivng in europe because they simlply do not have an option to it any other way. They are living here because they know that in eurpoe they have a better future for themselves and their children. If they have the same opportunilies in gambia as here, IŽll bet you thet we would all be livivng in gambia.
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Alhassan

Sweden
813 Posts

Posted - 13 Sep 2007 :  13:57:04  Show Profile Send Alhassan a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by jambo

it was not a matter of staying it is a matter of attitude, if they are willing to give it a go in Gambia after being trained in a skill or helped in a business it shows a certain mindset
how negative to think people do not want to stay, why do you have such thoughts.


jambo,
Today you can call it negative. In reality, many Gambian youths are not satisfied by staying at home and working. Just imagim how many youths have paid the human smuggelars to come to Europe and ended up by being flown back to the Gambia? Why would they risk their lives and money for an uncertain journey? Remember I am too from the Gambia and well in touch with the youths down there. This is not a negative taught but it is a fact. Otherwise go to the Gambia and make some research about what I have posted.
99% of the Gambians in diaspora choose to klive here because they did not belive in the Gambia. Children brought up in the diaspora could say they had no choice, but if asked they would not go back to the Gambia to work as a civil servant. Some would but my question is howmany jambo? You are educated why not go back to Gambia to work or start a buisness?

Edited by - Alhassan on 13 Sep 2007 14:01:56
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jambo



3300 Posts

Posted - 13 Sep 2007 :  16:04:09  Show Profile Send jambo a Private Message
alhassan, my question was aimed at people who wonder why they are "played", i just thought that if they put a little more effort into their relationships we would nt have subjects like this, read the first posting.
i say it is negative because yu are a gambian and if you think there is no hope how sad is that.
i still believe that if you educate the person to have a sall living they are happy, nothing major not talking about owning a hotel, but the women at the road side are paying bills, the carpenters are paying bills.
some people just want an easy ride out of town. also if gambian economoy was better people could afford to live, years ago it was okay but now too expensive.
better pay for teachers, nurses etc would help. some people just want it easy, but others would stay, i truly believe they would.
As for me going back and educating people, if i listen to you it would be all over.
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Sibo



Denmark
231 Posts

Posted - 14 Sep 2007 :  09:18:03  Show Profile Send Sibo a Private Message
Good point, Jambo
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Alhassan

Sweden
813 Posts

Posted - 14 Sep 2007 :  11:58:18  Show Profile Send Alhassan a Private Message
jambo,
Just because it is bantaba here you can debate in this manar. I am through here because we have different experience and cannot come to an agreement. Better pay or not youths will not stay at home. This is something I have learnt to accept. Why then pay all the human smuggelars? Where does the money comne from?
Children brought up here have not yet shown the intrest to move back home and work yet. Those I have seen here in Sweden are from other countries not Gambia.

Edited by - Alhassan on 14 Sep 2007 12:01:17
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jambo



3300 Posts

Posted - 14 Sep 2007 :  12:45:54  Show Profile Send jambo a Private Message
alhassan, i see what you are saying no matter what is offered in gambia, youths want to leave, okay fair point. but my comments were aimed at people who enter into relationships without thinking things through.
still not sure what you mean about "Just because it is bantaba here you can debate in this manar." or "Children brought up here have not yet shown the intrest to move back home and work yet.", i was replying to the main topic of this debate.
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serenata



Germany
1400 Posts

Posted - 14 Sep 2007 :  17:46:34  Show Profile Send serenata a Private Message
Of course (young) people want to see the world, but I saw so many homesick, unhappy Gambians here in Europe. Right, jambo, a good education/training in Gambia in many cases is a better support than a hazardous marriage.
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jambo



3300 Posts

Posted - 14 Sep 2007 :  18:00:34  Show Profile Send jambo a Private Message
thanks for that, and how does that manifest its self, negativity towards the person they are close to, in this case their partners.
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tapalapa

United Kingdom
202 Posts

Posted - 15 Sep 2007 :  11:05:59  Show Profile Send tapalapa a Private Message
For me its about freedom of choice- exploring the world,knowing you are free to do so. Being brought up in the UK I have aloways been free to travel even if I choose to or not. I cannot imagine being told that I could never leave England when there is a whole huge world to explore which we are all members of.

Simple

Have a good weekend everyone
Tapa
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gambiabev

United Kingdom
3091 Posts

Posted - 15 Sep 2007 :  12:52:49  Show Profile Send gambiabev a Private Message
I think I am right in saying there were financial restrictions at one time. I think it was in 1970s. Brits were only allowed to take so much money out of the country at any one time? It was an attempt to get people to stay at home for holidays and not spend money abroad. (can anyone else say more on this? Its a very vague memory).

I didnt go abroad until I was 20. My family holidays were spent happily in the UK. We didnt have the money to travel abroad, and my parents at the time didnt have the aspirations either. It was considered a thing rich people did, and we werent rich.

Now travel in UK is considered to be an option for quite a % of the population.

It shows how quickly things can change in a country. Who knows, in 30 years time Gambians may be free to travel and may be able to afford to visit places they would like to see. It is something to aspire to and work towards.

My grandma, never visited London in all her 95 years. It is 120 miles from Leicester, around 3 hours travelling. She never had any desire to visit and for many years never had the means. Now people from Leicester go to London for the day.

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