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njucks
Gambia
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 Posted - 03 Aug 2007 : 20:50:01
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Kafuta is the first village after foigny right? but your explanation also implies that people migrated along the current borders which is unlikely. perhaps you should also consider that the names could have origin in other languages other than mandinka.
there's another village near brikama called Nyofelleh. it is self explanatory. |
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Janko
Gambia
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Posted - 03 Aug 2007 : 21:36:47
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/---/perhaps you should also consider that the names could have origin in other languages other than mandinka./---/
Yes, and thats why (if mandingka) is included in the above possible explanation. If could be explained in any other language, I would be thankful......we are around to exchange knowledge |
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Momodou
Denmark
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Posted - 03 Aug 2007 : 22:14:30
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Janko, here are some names to add:
Tabanani
Sotokoi
Sutukoba
Kolibantang
Tambasansang
Faraba
Bantato
Bansang
Boraba
Dalaba
Santanto
Toniataba
Dumbuto
Jattaba
Kemoto
Sibito
Berending
Kabakoto
Sittanunku
Faraba
Farato
Jiboro
Tumani Tenda
Basori
Kabafita
Kunkujang
Sutusinjang
Kaur and Kuntaur have something to do with good grazing place for livestock in Fula I was once told. |
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Janko
Gambia
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Posted - 03 Aug 2007 : 23:36:57
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Njucks, your question is on the floor -
Has Nyofelleh any other origin/meaning than the self-explanatory one?
Momodou, I ning barra
And.............
Kanube tenda
Jareng tenda
Tamba kunda
Talto
Nyang Bolong
Sita Nunku
Santamba
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MADIBA
United Kingdom
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Posted - 04 Aug 2007 : 00:56:00
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Janko this is a brilliant idea. This has been interesting.
Konds the reason is most if not all Fula settlements have been changed either into wolof or Mandinka. Koto Alhassan reminded me of a name i used to hear alot wen i was growing up; SARE MAWDEH, i guess that was the original name of NEMA KUNKU? Among the original inhabitants was a family friend. KERR MAMA upper nuimi, despite being known amongst the Fulas by SARE MAMA. Named after the founder.
Bijilo however according to a narration by an elder Sukuta resident, is the first settler was a Fula herdesman/sheperd called BIJI. He was in charge of cattle of Sukuta people. Its beleived that Bijilo was originally the farmland of Sukuta. So wen these sukutarians wanted milk or cow dung, they usually go over to BIJI who was now satying in BIJILO instead of going home everyday to Sukuta. |
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kondorong
Gambia
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Posted - 04 Aug 2007 : 01:22:31
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| Nema Kunku actually took its form from the family of Sheikh Ibrahim Niasse. Nema meaning blessings. The Niasse family chose that settlement in the Gambia. Sometimes its called Nema Nassir. |
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kondorong
Gambia
4380 Posts |
Posted - 04 Aug 2007 : 01:33:01
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Originally posted by njucks
Kafuta is the first village after foigny right? but your explanation also implies that people migrated along the current borders which is unlikely. perhaps you should also consider that the names could have origin in other languages other than mandinka.
there's another village near brikama called Nyofelleh. it is self explanatory.
I guess in Nyofelleh Village, nothing is secret. If everyone looks and checks one another, then there is no place for my Fula man Madiba to practice magic.
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MADIBA
United Kingdom
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Posted - 04 Aug 2007 : 11:21:01
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Originally posted by kondorong
Nema Kunku actually took its form from the family of Sheikh Ibrahim Niasse. Nema meaning blessings. The Niasse family chose that settlement in the Gambia. Sometimes its called Nema Nassir.
I think this name Nem Nassir is recent. SARE MAWDEH has been there since the late 70s to early 80s as far back as i can remember. Infact my aunt was given a piece of land in the early 80s which she ignored becos of the remoteness of the place. i know she has regretted now. Konds NYOFELLEH, doesn't it sound as the discovery of millet/sorghum?
Infact there are Fulas there, but their apparentices are Soninkes |
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Janko
Gambia
1267 Posts |
Posted - 05 Aug 2007 : 14:24:35
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How would you categorise the names of towns and villages of the Gambia?
My categories are;
1) Name of founder - Sareh, Kerr, Kunda
2) Animal - Bamba (tenda)
3) Name related to the river - Tenda (Ba)
4) Name related to the landscape,vegetation,farm - Taba, kunkujang
5) Desirable qualities or function, verb, adjective - Tonya, Karang, Salikenye
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Alhassan
Sweden
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Posted - 06 Aug 2007 : 08:53:37
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Originally posted by kondorong
What is the name of the first manding Settlement?
Alhassan
I think Janko has the right answer to your question. I was late to answer. I was drinking the magic water
kondorong,
Which and were are you refering to? If in the Gambia, I do not realy know the the answer to you question. |
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Alhassan
Sweden
813 Posts |
Posted - 06 Aug 2007 : 08:55:50
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Madiba,
SARE MAWDEH is the real name. I remembered the village because when I was a child, our cattel used to spend the rainy season there near WELINGARA. |
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Alhassan
Sweden
813 Posts |
Posted - 06 Aug 2007 : 09:04:29
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Originally posted by njucks
Kafuta is the first village after foigny right? but your explanation also implies that people migrated along the current borders which is unlikely. perhaps you should also consider that the names could have origin in other languages other than mandinka.
there's another village near brikama called Nyofelleh. it is self explanatory.
Njucks,
You must have to ask the people of KAFUTA before you say that I am wrong. The interpretation by Janko is not the reason why the village got the name. I have also red fro kondorong about NEMA NASIR, but he also is wrong. SARE MAWNDE started as a FULA settelment, the wollofs came there after in the 70s. It was in WELLINGARA that you had some Wollofs of the Mbenga family from Leman Street in Banjul. Even the brother of the late Modou Musa Njie the former police baba Yero lived at Old Yundum and Wellingara. The Fullas were the firet settelers arround there. It is places like SINCHU ALAGI that is resent. Sinchu used to be where cattle spent the dry season. |
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MADIBA
United Kingdom
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Posted - 06 Aug 2007 : 09:11:56
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| Koto Alhassan, was Juldeh Bah ur herdsman? I remember that there was some cattle along the way from tabokoto going to SARE MAWDEH via welligara. |
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Alhassan
Sweden
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Posted - 06 Aug 2007 : 10:10:08
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Originally posted by MADIBA
Koto Alhassan, was Juldeh Bah ur herdsman? I remember that there was some cattle along the way from tabokoto going to SARE MAWDEH via welligara.
Madiba,
What a small world. Juldeh too care of the cattle that belonged to the M'benga family. Our herdsmanwas one of my mothers causins Yero Jeng. I remembered Juldeh, very strict when it came to eating LACHERE och BIRADAM with suger in the container used to milk the cattle. He recomended salt and until today I use salt.
He also made good NJURI och KOSSAM if you remember this Fullah drink.
SINCHU Sori is not far away. Sinchu Sori, Sinchu Baliya and Sare Mawndeh as I said were students of Cherno Modou Barri of Old Yundum.
Wellingara is the oldest settelment in that area and Sinchu Alhaji is the youngest. In fact it is Sinchu Alhaji that is inhabited mostely by the people of Ibrahima Nyass of Kaulack. I was not in the Gambia when the settlement started. In fact the border of sinchu and Old Yundum by the Nette tree is our old Findi(Findo) farm.
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kondorong
Gambia
4380 Posts |
Posted - 06 Aug 2007 : 18:14:55
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Originally posted by Alhassan
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Originally posted by njucks
Njucks,
I have also red fro kondorong about NEMA NASIR, but he also is wrong. . Even the brother of the late Modou Musa Njie the former police baba Yero lived at Old Yundum and Wellingara. The Fullas were the firet settelers arround there. It is places like SINCHU ALAGI that is resent. Sinchu used to be where cattle spent the dry season.
Can you then tell me what is right. Dont just condemn and offer no answer. Thats not the way to teach someone. |
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