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toubab1020
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 Posted - 17 Jul 2007 : 14:01:01
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From the Point newspaper,
http://www.thepoint.gm/headlines2140.htm
wHAT IS OUR COUNTRY COMING TO WITH ALL THIS SELFISHNESS
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"Simple is good" & I strongly dislike politics. You cannot defend the indefensible.
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tapalapa
United Kingdom
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Posted - 17 Jul 2007 : 14:05:01
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This is disgraceful- The father could well die in Mile Two, as others are doing every month................
How will the son feel then ????
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Sibo
Denmark
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Posted - 17 Jul 2007 : 14:29:34
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| The father shouldnīt have spent the money on himself from the first place. His son trusted him he betrayed that trust. I donīt think the son is selfish at all, he worked hard for his money and he tried to help his father back home and he scrued him. |
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toubab1020
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Posted - 17 Jul 2007 : 14:59:41
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Originally posted by tapalapa
This is disgraceful- The father could well die in Mile Two, as others are doing every month................
How will the son feel then ????
tapa
I know Mile Two is not a nice place,the point I was trying to make from this article was that this father has caused untold problems to his son and judging from the report been very very selfish,I am sure that The Magistrate formed the same opinion as he remanded him to Mile Two.I should certainly not like that man for my Dad!! |
"Simple is good" & I strongly dislike politics. You cannot defend the indefensible.
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Sibo
Denmark
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Posted - 17 Jul 2007 : 15:16:32
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Tapalapa
I disagree, I donīt think itīs digracefull. This is about respect for people and their property if when those people are your children. And that is what this father is lacking for his son. How would you feel if your dad put you in this kind of situation???? |
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MeMe
United Kingdom
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Posted - 17 Jul 2007 : 15:23:29
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Originally posted by toubab1020
I know Mile Two is not a nice place,the point I was trying to make from this article was that this father has caused untold problems to his son and judging from the report been very very selfish,I am sure that The Magistrate formed the same opinion as he remanded him to Mile Two.I should certainly not like that man for my Dad!!
Worry not, Toubab1020! Everyone else could see why you posted this article  |
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toubab1020
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Posted - 17 Jul 2007 : 15:32:49
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| Thanks,I really felt for the son and his family who sent money home only to be totally ripped of by his OWN FATHER!! |
"Simple is good" & I strongly dislike politics. You cannot defend the indefensible.
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jambo
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Posted - 17 Jul 2007 : 18:01:11
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| the father turned away the son when he went to visit, nice family, no wonder the son sued the father. |
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kondorong
Gambia
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Posted - 17 Jul 2007 : 18:14:39
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Originally posted by Sibo
Tapalapa
How would you feel if your dad put you in this kind of situation????
How i would feel about him, i would walk away and not raise a finger because he is my Father not my Dad. There is a difference between Father and a Dad.
Its difficult, but you cannot choose your family. You are born into it. You can atleast choose your friends. |
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concort
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Posted - 17 Jul 2007 : 18:44:07
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Konds I agree with you...I would have taken the same stance by not disgracing my father out in public. Even though the son was ripped off, betrayed or fooled, he should have tried discussing the matter within the family. It sounds like the son sued the father because of the increased pressure coming from his partner. In Islam, we were always taught not to even raise your voice over your parents while speaking; as we could not possible pay them back for caring for us since birth.
I don't intend to offend anyone but i think that the son actions were motivated mainly just to please his partner. As stated, his father has already larvished the said funds/assets involved. By visiting mile 2 prisons could further divide the family. Two wrongs would never equal to a right. |
As Salamu Alaikum Waramatullah Wabarakatu |
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anna
Netherlands
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Posted - 17 Jul 2007 : 19:42:27
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| This can really piss me off! Yeah, easy - blame the European woman just because she put in all her savings so that a very selfish, unloving (didn't he turn his son off his own compound) and disrespectful (no respect for someone else's hard-earned money) father could con her and her Gambian man. Think again man, noone has the right to take which isn't his to take! So pity if the family will be divided, this would be the kind of family i could do without. I am sorry if i react too angry, because believe me - i have heard numerous stories like this one over the last few years and i am getting a bellyfull of profiting and parasiting Gambian families. The trouble is, they seem to think money is lying around on the streets here in Europe, nobody has to work and everything is for free. |
When an old African dies, it is as if a whole library has burnt down.
Amadou Hampate Ba (Mali) |
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kondorong
Gambia
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Posted - 17 Jul 2007 : 20:29:16
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Lets look at the story again. The money was to be used to build a house in the son's mother's compound and relatives.
It looks like both parents are divorced and as such, the son is or may not hav been staying with the father but the mother or the mother's relatives. In fact this story is not even straight. In the next paragraph, he is alledging that the house should be built in his mother's compound.See below
"Modou Kanyi, the plaintiff, told the court that he was claiming D600,500, representing the total sum of monies being the selling price of two motor vehicles he had earlier sent, as well as some building materials that were supposed to be used in a building in the compound of his mother and relatives."(point Newspaper)
Which compound should the house have been built is still not clear and therefore, the Magistrate has erred in sending him to prison since we do not know which compound should have been built.See below
"The plaintiff further claimed that instead of building the house in HIS compound as the defendant was directed, he built a house in his own compound, adding that to make matters worse, the defendant turned him back from the said compound whenever he went to visit"(Point Newspaper)
Note my emphasis on the word "HIS".
Certainly above paragraph is not talking about the mother's compound. May be, the Boy and the Mother share ownership of one compound but in that case, the complain should have been that the father did not build a house in their compound.
The first directive was to build a house for the mother and relatives. Now this paragraph is talking about his(boy) compound. I am just confused. Is the father's compound not habited by relatives?
Which compound should have been built is still not clear. Could the boy also have told his European partner a different story and now recanting. We may never know. Your truth, my truth and the THE TRUTH.
If both parents are divorced, there might be a bigger problem than the boy could handle. Its a rare case where children take thrie parents to court and have them locked up. I am not sure if i ever heard of one in the gambia. Times have changed.
LET FREE SPEECH RING.
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toubab1020
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Posted - 17 Jul 2007 : 20:37:41
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Originally posted by anna
This can really piss me off! Yeah, easy - blame the European woman just because she put in all her savings so that a very selfish, unloving (didn't he turn his son off his own compound) and disrespectful (no respect for someone else's hard-earned money) father could con her and her Gambian man. Think again man, noone has the right to take which isn't his to take! So pity if the family will be divided, this would be the kind of family i could do without. I am sorry if i react too angry, because believe me - i have heard numerous stories like this one over the last few years and i am getting a bellyfull of profiting and parasiting Gambian families. The trouble is, they seem to think money is lying around on the streets here in Europe, nobody has to work and everything is for free.
Phew, Mind the Blood Pressure Anna  please can I have a shovel full of money from Europe   I must say I agree recently Bantaba has become very laid back with little response to very serious happenings.I feel I want to say sorry to the owner whose hompage Bantaba inhabits for the fact that some of its vibrant colour has become "whitewashed".My own opinion others may disagree if so say so,or perhaps you agree. |
"Simple is good" & I strongly dislike politics. You cannot defend the indefensible.
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anna
Netherlands
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Posted - 17 Jul 2007 : 23:07:30
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Toubab1020, you're right - i should not get too worked up on this. I read the article and it was confusing. It is nice that Kondorong is trying to unravel it, what was the money to be used for, were the parents divorced.
But i really became very, very angry while reading Concort's posting even though he/she apologised beforehand just to be safe.
I am not a cookie in whatever way and i always try to react in an objective and reasonable manner. But this easy accusation of the European partner really got me spitting fire. There are only so many things i want to 'give away' on this public forum, but i don't mind telling you all that something similar happened to me and my Gambian man - fortunately the amount of money involved was a lot less. My partner's father died a long, long time ago however, there were other members of the extended family involved. The sad thing is, i am not as enthusiastic to go to the Gambia as i was before and even worse, the same goes for my partner. And there are so many similar stories......
People seem to think we are loaded. I am a schoolteacher mind you, and we get up every morning at 6 am and my partner leaves the house after breakfast to cycle to his work (9 km.) where he has to work hard every day for not too grand a salary because he has only been living in Holland for 15 months now and he doesn't have an education to write home about because he had to work on the family farm as from the age of 14. We both work hard and we are not at all rich by European standards. Still, since he has been living in Europe none of his 5 brothers seem to feel the need to do anything for their mother or for other family members in need. No man, they have a 'rich' brother in Europe and when he shows his face in the Gambia people are all over him 'Buy me this, buy me that'. Yes, i am willing to admit: sometimes i am so frustrated and so angry because it seems so unfair. And yes, then i get angry with him for not telling his family-members off: enough is enough, we want to enjoy life here too because we are both working so hard for it. But it is not done, this is not the Gambian way - you never tell your family members that they are treating you unfairly.
Yeah, i can imagine the European wife of Modou Kanyi crying for sheer frustration. And now someone here on this forum blames her just so easily and 'the father should not have been put in Mile 2'.
I don't know exactly what you mean with the forum being 'whitewashed'. Maybe i am oversensitive right now, but 'white' seems to have a negative notion. It might be far from what you mean to say with it, though. Sorry if i misunderstand..
My blood pressure is OK, i guess and sometimes it is good when something occurs that makes you say what you really feel inside. I feel better now anyway, but i might have caused someone else's blood pressure to rise to a dangerous level. |
When an old African dies, it is as if a whole library has burnt down.
Amadou Hampate Ba (Mali) |
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toubab1020
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Posted - 18 Jul 2007 : 00:00:16
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Originally posted by anna
Toubab1020, you're right - i should not get too worked up on this.
'whitewashed'. Maybe i am oversensitive right now, but 'white' seems to have a negative notion. It might be far from what you mean to say with it, though. Sorry if i misunderstand..
My blood pressure is OK, i guess and sometimes it is good when something occurs that makes you say what you really feel inside. I feel better now anyway, but i might have caused someone else's blood pressure to rise to a dangerous level.
Sorry, substitute the word Cookie with person.
Slow down, take deep breaths ,don't get upset,its a place to talk about things,not to expose your inner feelings,(unless you want to that is,)I try to always feel that I am a Guest in this place by invitation,when I said white washed,it was negative because I felt that Vibrant colour had somehow left Bantaba recently,that was the only way I could express it, something colourful that had been bleached or covered up with white (ie no colour showing)nothing more I suppose it was a feeling that could not be expressed in words thats all nothing more than that.Anyway I am off to bed now. |
"Simple is good" & I strongly dislike politics. You cannot defend the indefensible.
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kondorong
Gambia
4380 Posts |
Posted - 18 Jul 2007 : 00:04:04
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Originally posted by anna
People seem to think we are loaded. I am a schoolteacher mind you, and we get up every morning at 6 am and my partner leaves the house after breakfast to cycle to his work (9 km.)
It looks like teachers every where are complaining of low pay. But you see no other job gives you 4 months of vacation in a year. I was complaining too while i was teaching. Is it actually true they are under paid compared to other professions.
My Headmaster will not be proud of me.
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