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jambo
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 Posted - 26 Jun 2007 : 13:34:57
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Can anyone advise how much will it be for the following, in the upper niumi region
one donkey,
one cart,
12 chickens,
two goats
thank you in advance.
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Sibo
Denmark
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Posted - 26 Jun 2007 : 13:40:42
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| I´m just curious, what do you need these animals for??????? |
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jambo
3300 Posts |
Posted - 26 Jun 2007 : 13:51:19
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for my womens project in that region, the donkey and cart will provide the transport to get the food from the farm to the market chickens and goats to make extra income. a bit basic but you get the picture. on my last trip they had done so much with the little amount i had left, that it has inspired me to help more, but i am not making any promises and I will try not to send money over unless it has a purpose.
I am so keen for them to be sustainable. just thinking long term. no matter how much you get prices something always happens in gambia and upsets the plans. |
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Sibo
Denmark
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Posted - 26 Jun 2007 : 14:30:53
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| that´s a great idea. I´m glad that you rae helping these women so that they will be able to help themselves too. Good that it´s working and that you are making a difference . Keep up the good work |
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jambo
3300 Posts |
Posted - 26 Jun 2007 : 15:40:48
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The idea is not original but you would think i had invited the wheel. The reason I am working with them direct is the old one and well used. SOME LOCAL WANTS TO HELP, and instead they are a hindrance. the women are not desparate for these goods, but it will make a difference to their lifestyle. IF I GO AND GIVE MONEY can you imagine where it would go. when I give it to the men of the family it never gets spent on the right thing, but something they think is important.
STILL i will get there, its just taking a few years longer than i thought |
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Sibo
Denmark
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Posted - 27 Jun 2007 : 11:19:24
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This really is a great intiative.......
As Jaliba said: " Gambia musulou ali lodula le betiyata", It seems to me that the women in Gambia are working harder than the men, I might be wrong but that´´s just the impression I get whenever I go to Gambia. It seems like the men think that they are better for certain job, while women on the other hand would do any kand of job that will help the family not to go to bed hungry. I remember the last time I was in Gambia, I was going to Senegal with some friends early in the morning. From Brufut to Banjul, there were only women on the roads either going to the markets with their vegetables, going to the garden or the farms. Most of the men were probably still sleeping. Ifound that interesting. |
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jambo
3300 Posts |
Posted - 27 Jun 2007 : 11:30:01
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| i think women are being practical, they can sell at the market it is consider a "female industry", also this small step could mean a lot to them, also i will not have to keep an eye on it. once the animals have been born the future is in their hands. it should be about sustainability, hand up and not hands out |
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mbay
Germany
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Posted - 27 Jun 2007 : 11:51:20
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It depends the areas but mostly is exactly as you pointed.
men working (if at all)for a half day while women's are none stop including night!
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Originally posted by Sibo
This really is a great intiative.......
As Jaliba said: " Gambia musulou ali lodula le betiyata", It seems to me that the women in Gambia are working harder than the men, I might be wrong but that´´s just the impression I get whenever I go to Gambia. It seems like the men think that they are better for certain job, while women on the other hand would do any kand of job that will help the family not to go to bed hungry. I remember the last time I was in Gambia, I was going to Senegal with some friends early in the morning. From Brufut to Banjul, there were only women on the roads either going to the markets with their vegetables, going to the garden or the farms. Most of the men were probably still sleeping. Ifound that interesting.
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Sibo
Denmark
231 Posts |
Posted - 27 Jun 2007 : 14:25:12
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| My opinion is that if anybody wanna do projects like this, give it to the women, they simply seem to be more motivated. |
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jambo
3300 Posts |
Posted - 27 Jun 2007 : 16:40:52
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agree on that, also if there is no food it is the mother that is the last to eat, she put everyone else first. this way there can be some level of control of what is being brought into the house.
Secondly on my last two projects the change in the women when they have the independence is amazing the whole persona changes, they work harder and longer hours, but do not mind. the market stall is their business, they have a future, they belong to a social group, market stall holders, they have an income, they are leaving the compund and travelling, not far but still travelling and lastly they are happy |
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jambo
3300 Posts |
Posted - 17 Jul 2007 : 13:36:08
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| so what is the cost, any ideas, still doing my feasilibyt study and these costs are important |
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toubab1020
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Posted - 17 Jul 2007 : 13:54:52
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Originally posted by jambo
so what is the cost, any ideas, still doing my feasilibyt study and these costs are important
Jambo,you know Gambia,only when you are there can you get the true costs,everything is a market and you will pay what the market will stand,as far as I know there is no where where you can go and just select a donkey to buy,you will have to search around,no one is going to sell you a donkey and cart,you will have to go to the welder buy metal, wheels, wood and get him to make it for you going twice a day to check how he is getting on.In other words you will have to do it all yourself and pay the money as you get things,and take them away as soon as you have bought them with your money.The same applies to chickens and goats,the only difference there is that you dont have to have a welding machine!,only transport to take them away |
"Simple is good" & I strongly dislike politics. You cannot defend the indefensible.
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ylowe
USA
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Posted - 17 Jul 2007 : 14:12:02
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Mr yunus, the founder of Grameen Bank in India started lending money to women and maybe he had a reason. The repayment rate was very high and was successful in uplifting the lives of others. Why are men reluctant in doing small scale businesses(informal sector)? might have something to do with the men ego of doing big things and not knowing that little adds up to be big.
i thinking women are more reliable than men. There is a recent case going on in the Gambia between father and son. The son lives in Europe and was sending money and vehicles for the father to build a vacation home for him and his wife came to found out that the father was lavishly spending the money. The point is i dont see a mother doing that to his son. Just brainstorming and bye. |
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jambo
3300 Posts |
Posted - 17 Jul 2007 : 17:51:48
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ylowe, thank you for your posting, i have smiled because you have given many reasons not doing this project. I have feasibility study going on draft form.
one of the things i cannot factor in is time, also in project management there are factors called UNKNOWN UNKNOWNS, KNOWN UNKNOWN, KNOWN KNOWNS. DAYS NEEDED, DAYS ACTUAL, AND DAYS UNKNOWN.
it should be easy, but in Gambia no way.
regarding the Grameen bank it was just a "case of it making sense", that is why I am thinking of this, it makes sense. Small amounts go a long way. regarding the son sending money to his father, let the sener beware, I haave sent money to Gambia and have some experience of it not being spent on what it should be. i AM SURE OTHERS WILL HAVE TALES TO TELL
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kobo
United Kingdom
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Posted - 19 Jul 2007 : 15:34:38
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quote:
Originally posted by jambo
Can anyone advise how much will it be for the following, in the upper niumi region
one donkey,
one cart,
12 chickens,
two goats
thank you in advance.
for an update please visit the educational forum
COSTS FOR ESTIMATES AND BUDGETING PURPOSE ONLY:
one donkey = D5,000 to D10,000 (£100 to £200)
one cart = D5,000 to D20,000 (£100 to £400)
12 chickens= D50 to D150 per chicken (£1 to £3)
two goats = D1,000 to D2,500 per Goat (£20 to £50)
Hope they may be useful for your project? |
Edited by - kobo on 19 Jul 2007 15:35:37 |
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jambo
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Posted - 19 Jul 2007 : 17:38:31
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| Kobo, you are my hero, this will help at least i can put in some figures. I love bantaba, so helpful. Now, if you could help me factor some UNKNOWN UNKOWNS that would help. |
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